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I think the home screen design is indeed not as elegant as the old one, however I love what they did inside the individual apps. Now the submenu items are arranged horizontally on top of the screen which helps a lot to navigate.

I would just suggest them to redraw the icons on the home screen and that would solve the issue. I'm not agains using icons but I hate the look of these huge saturated simplistic ones.
 
I think the main issue here is, has an company or product mastered a user interface for a tv?

And do you expect apple to put the forth coming apple television UI into their 99 dollar apple tv box? :rolleyes: I say wait till 2013 before we say this is the end of apple and steve era is gone. Remember steve had a roadmap 3 years in advance for the company? The true steve era won't end until 2015. But I do agree Tim Cook is more of a business suit kind of guy, I think scott forestall should be giving the keynotes from now on. He has an energy on stage that reminds me of Steve. I feel Tim Cook is acting on stage pretending to have true artistic passion for these products. He seems just like all the other CEOS of tech companies, that is what made Steve, Steve. He was different and he wasn't afraid to show it.
 
luv the device hate the new ui it looks like a beta version or a google device. its cluttered and not organized like the older version. the older ui looked more polished and easier to navigate thru
 
Been saying this since I first laid on eyes on this new design.
Butt ugly.

Apple- please admit it sucks and simply switch it back.
 
But I do agree Tim Cook is more of a business suit kind of guy, I think scott forestall should be giving the keynotes from now on. He has an energy on stage that reminds me of Steve. I feel Tim Cook is acting on stage pretending to have true artistic passion for these products. He seems just like all the other CEOS of tech companies, that is what made Steve, Steve. He was different and he wasn't afraid to show it.

Absolutely right! :) Nail hit right there....
 
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"now there is nobody to say 'no' to bad design"

Uh, yeah there is. They are called consumers.

A bad design is something that eats away over time and at the margin until it has become your design philosophy. I really doubt customers will be able to say the Apple TV UI sucks in some convincing way because I don't think it sucks enough for them to stop purchasing it. A besides, Apple was great because it told the consumer what a good UI was and the consumer knew it was true even if not necessarily why. Many will go along with the new UI until a trend becomes obvious to everyone.

Apple has 60,000 employees, and Steve was the only person qualified to say "no" to bad design? Give me a break.

Qualified and TOP position in the decision hierarchy. Big difference. There can be plenty of people even better than SJ at Apple, but if their opinion is cancelled by people worse than SJ, it's a wash and it comes down to who is in charge.
 
The iPhone and iPad app grids are no different - why aren't all of you complaining about that as well? The iPhone and iPad app icons also violate basic tenets of icon design - I don't hear anyone here complaining about that either. Apple is simply bringing to the Apple TV UI elements that have proven popular with the other iOS products. If you dislike them here, then you must also dislike them in all other iOS products.
 
This is my first ATV so I don't know what the old UI - which seems to have a lot of fans - looked like. Anyone got a link to some screenshots?

http://web.archive.org/web/20110719173741/http://www.apple.com/appletv/

hero_tv20100901.png
 
I think the main issue here is, has an company or product mastered a user interface for a tv?

That's a really good question.

Jobs claimed he had "solved the TV interface problem", whatever that means. Personally, I think he meant using trained monkeys (or children, if you have them) to change the channel and adjust the rabbit ear antenna. No, wait, that was my own childhood. Never mind :)

I say wait till 2013 before we say this is the end of apple and steve era is gone. Remember steve had a roadmap 3 years in advance for the company?

The "four year plan" was a story started by a UK tabloid paper, The Daily Mail, the day Jobs died.

The only "evidence" of such a plan was some analyst's guess, but of course lazy reporters immediately repeated the article as gospel.
 
It is nice, simple and fast. It works for me.

However I hate to play my movies form ATV3 because there are not many options like variable zoom and stuff. I will wait for the JB then it will be great!

In the mean while I love my WD Live TV!

WTH is variable zoom and why is that a must-have for watching movies??
 
Read the update people.

Wouldn't it have been a little nicer to actually paste that text here rather than tell everyone what to do? Kinda like, being helpful?


Update: Margolis clarifies what he meant to TheNextWeb:
The new UI shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone. There is a clear effort at Apple to make everything match the look and feel of their popular iOS products – starting with Lion and increasing momentum with Mountain Lion.

To be clear – he didn’t like the original grid. This was before the iPhone was popular and before the iPad even existed.

Given that the iPad is far more successful than the AppleTV, migrating the AppleTV to look more like the iPad was probably a very smart move – even if some of the users of the old UI don’t prefer the new one.
 
The issue isn't the style of the User Interface

The problem with the new UI is that it's sort of a half-assed attempt. TV shows are impossible to organize by season, it's hart to see what is highlighted and etc. Lots of small things that hurt the overall usefulness of the interface.
 
Great minds think alike. I don't like the new interface either.

The old way where everything was visible as you scrolled across the screen is better than the current up and down scroll imo.
 
Maybe the new GUI is the way it is because Apple plans on adding more icons in the future. If one had 40 icons representing different apps it would look much nicer as it is now.

Apple is unifiying the look for the the IOS devices for a reason. Just because Steve is dead does not mean the whole design process at Apple has suddenly become stupid.

Steve was a visionary but he didn't do everything by himself.
 
We can argue till the cows come home about if we like the current UI. The fact Steve killed the UI five years ago, and now it shows up after his passing is shocking to me. Steve preached innovation, how is this innovation? I also felt Apple has taken a slide for the worse, but it doesn't change my loyalty to the company for now. I just want Tim to run a tighter ship.
 
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I like this new interface personally, it's less boring than the old one and it's easier to see all your options

Well, they removed the ability to turn it off. Used to be you just held down the center button a few seconds and it turned off. Now, nothing.
 
We can argue till the cows come home about if we like the current UI. The fact Steve killed the UI five years ago, and now it shows up after his passing is shocking to me. Steve preached innovation, how is this innovation? I also felt Apple has taken a slide for the worse, but it doesn't change my loyalty to the company for now. I just want Tim to run a tighter ship.

That's not a fact.
 
We can argue till the cows come home about if we like the current UI. The fact Steve killed the UI five years ago, and now it shows up after his passing is shocking to me. Steve preached innovation, how is this innovation? I also felt Apple has taken a slide for the worse, but it doesn't change my loyalty to the company for now. I just want Tim to run a tighter ship.

Steve is not in charge anymore. Let's let the new team run stuff and see where it goes. Tim Cook appears to be a very good CEO even if he is less "hands-on" then Jobs. A CEO being too "hands-on" can also stifle development if the CEO isn't some sort of great visionary. I don't see Cook being a micro manager in the same way Jobs was, but that doesn't mean he won't end up being very successful. Apple might take on a different feeling in a few years, but that doesn't mean it will be a bad thing. It might actually be a positive thing.
 
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