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Ok but don’t pretend it’s your main reason for fighting Apple over this implementation. Sure make a profit but be truthful with the reasons and methods to do it
.....again that assertion could be thrown against any company...do you really believe Apple hang their hats on the privacy post because they really care about yours and my privacy or because they really think that it's great for their bottom line?
 
I've seen this a few times... something I only discussed (not searched for) appearing in ads (e.g. holiday spots)... if there is some audio monitoring going on you'd think someone would blow the whistle as this would be a *major* story and give said whistleblower at least 15 minutes of fame to monetize.
It’s not aways nefarious and has been a phenomenon going back to the beginning of advertising.

You discuss something with someone or you went somewhere, then you start NOTICING ads for that thing and stories about it. This happens for a few reasons:
1. You discussed it or went there because it was in the zeitgeist already.
2. You are more aware of it now that you made it fresh in your mind, but it’s always been there.

Now, that isn’t true for earwax treatments, but a lot of the more mainstream things.
 
App Tracking Transparency will threaten Facebook's view-through conversion tracking, a metric that lets ad companies figure out how many people saw an ad, didn't click it, but later made a purchase related to the ad. Retailers can record the info of the person who bought an item and then share it with Facebook, with Facebook able to determine whether that person's IDFA matches with a user who saw an ad for the product purchased.
Good. Screw Facebook. This kind of tracking is just plain creepy.

It is scary that 1 company owns 4 of the top 6 social media/chat platforms: Facebook, WhatsApp, Facebook Messenger, and Instagram. They already have too much information on everyone - they don't need to get anymore.

 
Facebook is planning to ask users for permission to access the IDFA, and is testing wording that suggests the tracking will provide a better ad experience. Facebook test prompts encourage customers to allow IDFA usage to "support businesses that rely on ads to reach customers."
I'm gonna apply for a job at Facebook. I'm good at spinning lies, I have that Triple E perk (Expert Excrement Expeditor). I can fling horse ****, bull ****, bat **** like a chimp...erm...champ. I took the Baghdad Bob correspondence course. I turned Gandhi pacifist into a ultraviolent, nuke happy leader in Civilization series, by learning Democracy in the tech tree.😏
 
There’s a really big question that I haven’t seen asked yet, or maybe I should Google it, but here it is anyway:

Why is there an advertising identifier AT ALL??

I can’t see how any reasonable individual would miss it (except for advertisers of course). If it were completely gone, you will not see iPhone users clamoring for its return.

“Hey! I want my ad identifier back! I want Facebook and Google and all these sites to track my every move!” Said nobody. Ever.

Opting out of tracking is a band-aid. Just get rid of the identifier entirely.
 
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Have never had a facebook account and never will.
Doesn't matter, they're still tacking you and still building profiles on your unique identifier. With that information alone, they probably know exactly who you are.

Even if you are currently blocking all tracking bugs, all ads, all cookies on every site, if you ever surfed even once unprotected, or before you realized there were privacy issues and installed blockers, you might have a profile.

Also CNAME cloaking to get around ad blockers was being used before people knew it was a thing... So many ways of tracking you.
 
Speaking of their ads, has anyone seen the abysmally bad Facebook TV spots? They ran before a SCI FY show and it's this mix of rap and spoken word and not-rhyme and bad examples of how good personalized ads are, and it might be the most cringe commercial I've ever seen. Really worth watching.


It's like someone at an ad agency said "let's be inclusive but not too specific. Like we'll show lots of minorities, and they can want to buy personalized items that no one would ever want to buy, and then set that to a beat that reminds people of Amanda Gorman but is also somehow the very opposite of any message she would deliver ever.
 
As someone who spent 20k on facebook ad's a year, yeah I believe the former employee, I'd target engaged couples, between the ages of 25-35 and got recently engaged in a particular zip code.

They have plenty of people's information already.
 
So many comments on how Apple, a company with about 20% global cell phone market share, is going to “destroy” Facebook😂 I know 14.5 will sting a little but c’mon. Most of the old folks who use FB are accessing it through a Windows laptop web browser
 
So many comments on how Apple, a company with about 20% global cell phone market share, is going to “destroy” Facebook😂 I know 14.5 will sting a little but c’mon. Most of the old folks who use FB are accessing it through a Windows laptop web browser
Much of Facebooks's profits come from mobile (as opposed to PCs), and even then, moreso from iOS than android.


It's about usage share, not raw market share.
 
Have never had a facebook account and never will.
Au contraire! You have a Facebook account whether you opened one or not. Facebook, as does Google, puts multiple trackers on every single website, including MR! Unless you are blocking trackers, not just ads, Facebook is collecting which sites you visit, what you click on, etc., and then following you to other sites. As does Google, they link your ISP to your ID that they can get from your patterns, posts, etc. This is the real reason Facebook is panicking-because most people are like you and don't realize Facebook has been tracking them and linking your personal information to the accounts they sell to advertisers WHETHER YOU HAVE EVER OPENED A FACEBOOK, IG, etc., ACCOUNT !
 
Facebook took the wrong approach on this. Instead of making it a very publicize issue they should have negotiated an annual payment with Apple to not implement this. The same way Google pay Apple billions to be the search engine.

Now it's so public that Apple could not backtrack without loosing face.
Pay me (Apple) exempt me out of this? I doubt Apple would go for exceptions from FB when a Apple is all about privacy..

If you start making exceptions for one company, more will follow... Suddenly privacy won't BE privacy anymore. It must be all or nothing to work successfully.
 
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Anyone here think Apple is just removing other apps abilities to track you so that they can be the only company able to do so, and then sell this data to the other companies?
 
I realize I may be an outlier but I have an additional reason (beyond privacy) for not wanting tailored or relevant ads... it tempts me to over spend. If I want something like a book, I know a dozen places where I can find them online and buy what I want. However, these ads that are based on models of behavior try to stimulate sales by getting people who are not already thinking of making a purchase to make the purchase by putting an ad in front of them at just the right time. The sophisticated ad campaigns have already done A/B testing to find the best wording, colors, fonts, images, etc. to maximize response rates to the ads. If I am constantly bombarded with targeted ads for things I MIGHT want, it takes a lot more personal restraint to save money instead of buying the latest shiny thing the social media gods want to sell me. It is easier to resist a generic ad than one that has been tailored to my demographic group and interests.
 
Eventually the people who purchase the ads have to stop drinking the FB marketing Kool Aid. Its like tv ads....does no-one realize that people do 'things' during commercials or mute them???? I hit the mute button as if I were born with a gene for it.....
The thirty-second skip button on the TiVO controller deserves a Nobel prize.
 
uhhh...I don't think that targeting by zip code is consider "broad" targeting...

IDFA should be illegal, targeted ads should be illegal. Collected user data and making personal profiles should be illegal.

Keep using targeted ads and trackers and we will keep completely blocking ads, trackers, and use FOSS software...War on...
 
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