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Fortnite Introduces Direct Payment Option on iOS Despite Apple's App Store Review Guidelines [Updated]
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Spotify, e.g., charges more for service on the App Store rather than charge less elsewhere.
That's correct for now. But many of these (usually large) developers object to having to use Apple's payment system, meaning that they want to implement their own. Which will inevitably lead to a worse user experience and far more data collection.
Yeah of course. I can't imagine any developer is going to reduce their prices from where they are now, even if they don't have to pay Apple anything.
So many here defending Apple blindly. We all benefit if the current policies at Apple change to allow alternative payment systems, allowing apps like Kindle to offer the store inside the app and allowing game streaming services like Xcloud.
lol, Spotify has to charge more on the App Store due to the 30 percent fee to Apple. If Apple allowed alternative payments, Spotify could offer the same price as on their website.
What, you thought Apple was the greedy one? The App Store needs some scrutiny and maybe oversight but their payment policies seem pretty fair compared to their own and comparable markets. I’d also rather deal with one payment system vs who-knows-how many if every dev suddenly had their own in-app payment program in an attempt to circumvent Apple’s percentage.
No we don’t. Speaking of Kindle, if you want Apple to open up their App Store why can’t I buy B&N eBooks on my Kindle? Wouldn’t we all benefit from that? Some of us aren’t blindly defending Apple we just aren’t blindly attacking them either.
Apple just needs to reduce this to something more reasonable. A 30% cut when there's no "shelf space" being used is too high. I agree there needs to be some compensation, but not 30% of *every* transaction!
The 30% markup is rooted in traditional retail where a retailer needs to pre-purchase all the stock and then sell it again. That model is entirely different from digital-only transactions that cost Apple nothing up-front.
The 30% markup is rooted in traditional retail where a retailer needs to pre-purchase all the stock and then sell it again. That model is entirely different from digital-only transactions that cost Apple nothing up-front.
What legit internet marketplace passes along 95% of the revenue to the creator? YouTube? Amazon? Google? Kickstarter? Nope. Nope. Nope. People who grew up on the internet where everything is “free” seem to have no concept of value or money.
lol your example is terrible. Maybe you do not remember back in 2010, apps like Kindle were able to have their stores inside the apps. Apple decided to change their policy and forced them to remove it or be kicked out of the App Store. So, yeah, we will all benefit with changes to the policies and you won't be affected. You can still continue to blindly defend Apple.
You can like the brand, but when they are wrong, you should also speak up.
Well, let's see what happens when there is no Fortnite, no xCloud, no Stadia, no WeChat, the list goes on.
Good point but apples to oranges. Shopify is an e-commerce/payment platform it isn’t a marketplace. The App Store is that plus hosting, customer service, distribution, developer API’s, etc.
As the old saying goes "Bye Felicia". China is just testing to see what they can get away with now that everyone is looking at TikTok
Lol. So Shopify has no customer service, API's or hosting to maintain? I would like to know about that magic.
Moreover, free apps pay nothing to the App Store, so you clearly cannot associate the 30% to those concepts. The only reason Apple can charge 30% is because they have no competition on payments, but that will hopefully end soon.
Why is my example terrible other than it doesn’t agree with your opinion? You’re right I don’t remember Kindle having its own store in 2010, but if so then Apple followed a precedent. Are you looking for an industry-wide shake up? Do you remember when buy and selling on the internet was true Wild West and buying anything online was risky? I do.
Yes, Apple is protecting their profits but they are also providing something to the users, a safe and low-friction shopping experience. That is a huge value to me and many others.
When I think Apple is wrong I do speak up and more importantly I don’t complain about it on forums, I vote with my wallet. I’ve passed on many of their products. As I said before, I think the App Store needs some review and possible regulation but their rates (generally) are competitive with comparable marketplaces. I think their review process and some of their policies are skewed but overall their rate structures seem fair.
But they also save that same amount of money by using Apple's system
Seems that way, but it's pretty apparent that Epic isn't going to stop there. They obviously didn't do this for a few extra cents on an in-app purchase.
LOL. So Shopify provides the same services the App Store does to developers and users?
My point was business models. Shopify is strictly e-commerce it isn’t a marketplace. Much less a marketplace tied to a development environment. Apple charges a comparable rate as other online marketplaces (less than marketplaces like Amazon and Audible). You can continue to ignore that fact if you’d like but it makes any debate pretty pointless if you cherry pick your facts.
Free apps don’t “pay nothing”. The dev pays $99 a year. Are you really complaining that Apple doesn’t charge them more?! What crazy standard of fairness is getting upset at a company for giving a person who isn’t making money a price break because they they then charge a percentage to people who do make money? Apple could very well say, “well, we are charging them 30% because 30% of $0 is . . . ?”
Interesting double-speak. Is 5 less than 10 or is 10 more than 5.
And consumers can choose to vote with their wallets. If customers don't like Epic's terms they can go somewhere else. (Where have I heard that before?)
Look up the term "price elasticity". If a company can sell 100 widgets @$50, but only 25 widgets @ $100, they are better off with a lower price. Especially in the case of "in-game" purchases which have an effect marginal cost of $0. All companies are looking to maximize revenue and profit.