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Fortnite to Return to iOS via Nvidia GeForce Now Streaming Service

LongWayHome said:
Yeah I'm sure everyone who has slow to barely decent internet speed it will run beautifully!!!
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For comparison sake It will be equivalent of streaming netflix and you can customize how much geforce uses as bandwidth. I think for full HD the recommendation is 25+ Mbps. The difference is that you can set everything to full detail since it will be rendered server side, it will be video after all. There is a free tier so you can try by yourself on a laptop. If you want to check the web browser version, you just have to switch the browsers user-agent to simulate chrome OS and you'll be good to go. I did and I'm able to run any supported steam game in full details on a crappy 7 year old laptop with 1gb video card under ubuntu.
 
crizzly said:
Apple can impose whatever restrictions it wishes via the App Store. The open web is a different story and I can’t image they would make any attempts to block these services going through the web app route.
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they cannot block them but they can harm them by
1) leaving bugs in safari unfixed for months if they only affect web apps / games
2) implementing a limited and incomplete support for pwa / web apps / web standards required for game streaming.

Because webkit is the only rendering engine allowed on iOS, by controlling webkit, they control the web, or at least the web experience and the amount of friction (as far as iOS devices are concerned).
 
Bogos said:
For comparison sake It will be equivalent of streaming netflix and you can customize how much geforce uses as bandwidth. I think for full HD the recommendation is 25+ Mbps. The difference is that you can set everything to full detail since it will be rendered server side, it will be video after all. There is a free tier so you can try by yourself on a laptop. If you want to check the web browser version, you just have to switch the browsers user-agent to simulate chrome OS and you'll be good to go. I did and I'm able to run any supported steam game in full details on a crappy 7 year old laptop with 1gb video card under ubuntu.
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Oh wow, I actually wasn't aware that it worked like that. My bad, thank you for educating me on this. I will try it out and see how the service works. Thank you!
 
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Good for Epic, this was a smart move. Apple will try to block it, but I doubt they will be successful without getting hit with a lawsuit. Let's see if their attorneys had the foresight to see this coming and put this in the terms.

Those that are saying the gamers have "moved on"... if they did, they'll come back. Fortnite is just as popular as it was six months ago.
 
Spock said:
I remember back in the olden days of iPhone, web applications were how Steve Jobs wanted the iPhone to go. I don’t think they originally planned on having an App Store. I remember the web app page that Apple hosted that you could use to find them.
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Nope. Steve Jobs specifically mentioned 'Desktop Applications on iphone' not the baby or mobile apps. The first set of third party applications were webkit type yes I agree, yet the main intention from the beginning was the apps we have toady. Just that a working SDK was not ready, along with documentation. At iphone original release Apple was still using NeXT development like tools (evolved of course) for MacOS. Internally their tools was not ready for the new developer.
 
Honestly I wouldn't imagine Apple would much care about this. They're not responsible for every site that someone visits on Safari in the same way that they are responsible for what's available on the app store. If Epic have found a way to sidestep the App Store through the browser then it probably suits Apple (no pun intended) as stops the issue from being their problem.
 
DeepIn2U said:
Nope. Steve Jobs specifically mentioned 'Desktop Applications on iphone' not the baby or mobile apps. The first set of third party applications were webkit type yes I agree, yet the main intention from the beginning was the apps we have toady. Just that a working SDK was not ready, along with documentation. At iphone original release Apple was still using NeXT development like tools (evolved of course) for MacOS. Internally their tools was not ready for the new developer.
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Nope. From his biography:

Apple board member Art Levinson told Isaacson that he phoned Jobs “half a dozen times to lobby for the potential of the apps,” but, according to Isaacson, “Jobs at first quashed the discussion, partly because he felt his team did not have the bandwidth to figure out all the complexities that would be involved in policing third-party app developers.”
 
Spock said:
Nope. From his biography:

Apple board member Art Levinson told Isaacson that he phoned Jobs “half a dozen times to lobby for the potential of the apps,” but, according to Isaacson, “Jobs at first quashed the discussion, partly because he felt his team did not have the bandwidth to figure out all the complexities that would be involved in policing third-party app developers.”
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Hmm.

my interpretation of that is he wasn't against desktop class apps on iPhone that we have now, just he was 'at first' against due to personal resources to manage such 3rd party apps submitted by developers.

a comparison: I'm against auto driving cars, I see the value though.
 
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This is actually really good for Apple. In the court case, Apple mentioned that Epic and others could always use web apps if they wanted to avoid paying Apple any fees. This shows that A) Epic (and others) can do this and B) no irreparable harm has been caused so Epic is in an even weaker position than they already were.
 
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BGPL said:
Good for Epic, this was a smart move. Apple will try to block it, but I doubt they will be successful without getting hit with a lawsuit. Let's see if their attorneys had the foresight to see this coming and put this in the terms.

Those that are saying the gamers have "moved on"... if they did, they'll come back. Fortnite is just as popular as it was six months ago.
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Apple have no reason and unlikely no desire to block this. In fact this goes in Apple's favour as it shows what a lot of developers on these forums and others have been saying, if Epic don't like the terms they can use a web app or in this case they can stream the game.
 
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