Well its like buying a Ferrari that can go 300MPH in a 55MPH speed limit zone. What's the point. I guess apple thinks that if everything runs smooth there's no reason to switch to the most powerful, etc.
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Well its like buying a Ferrari that can go 300MPH in a 55MPH speed limit zone. What's the point. I guess apple thinks that if everything runs smooth there's no reason to switch to the most powerful, etc.
What do you do on your computer anyway? Or you just want to have the latest and most powerful chips?
Clueless troll. Name another stock which has returned post crash/recession to all time highs.
I fall into the old prosumer market that Apple catered to with the iMac G5 and sub-$2,000 single processor towers. Look at the tower in my signature.What do you do on your computer anyway? Or you just want to have the latest and most powerful chips?
I'm much more well informed than the masses. What's wrong with the desire of better hardware for everyone? It seems to bring up a knee jerk defense of Apple's profit margins or how I'm not in Apple's market. I wasn't the one that decided to be abandoned.
I use my notebook to have OS X and Windows on the road for my IT work. At home I have my home built tower for its upgradability, quiet operation, and raw power. It may just be Handbrake, games, and the occasional video editing but Apple doesn't provide what I want at the price points I want like they did so long ago. I effectively jumped the iMac resale a year ship to buy my Macbook. As I've said it's just too good even when the fans kick to 6200 RPM on two cores.
You should have talked to me back in the year of PowerPC only. That was major suffering. Not that I would have admitted it.
Hey different strokes for different folks. Some people think the Alienware look is "cool". I probably wouldn't get one simply because I'd feel a bit silly opening a laptop like that in a business meeting. I was interested because I know someone who might be interested in one - he does a lot of video/photo/audio editing (windows), and he's always complaining about this laptop drives being too slow, etc.
Right now he has a laptop, but does most of his heavy work on a desktop with very fast RAID 0 array; especially for a scratch drive, or when working with RAW images. He probably wouldn't change that behavior when at home, but he's mentioned several times that he sure would like to get some work done when he's on the road, and the laptop just can't move the bits off the disk fast enough not to drive him nuts (especially when transcoding video). His RAID array isn't very portable, and most portable external HDDs aren't very performant.
Anyway, thanks for the link - I'll take a look.
That sounds like ENVY 15 territory with a SSD for boot and a secondary mechanical disk for storage.
You have to venture into the mobile workstation territory for RAID 0 on a notebook. Otherwise big, expensive SSDs appear to be the other option if size is a factor.
Once you get out of your bubble, you might be shocked to discover that there are other companies too. This globe is not spinning, life is not happening around Apple and Microsoft.
Apple deserves this spot.
This company is a leader not a follower, they care about their employees and have excellent customer service.
I appreciate the fact they don't jump on bandwagons.
They put out hardware that is beautiful, functional, well designed and lasts.
Their products have high resale value because of their business model.
Being an engineer myself I can see why they make certain decisions they do that make so many people upset. Understand you cant put a quad core heater in a thin notebook without enough space for proper cooling, unless you want it to crap out on you 2 years down the road.
There are some things that upset me too, like no real desktop option for a reasonable price, but overall Apple is an American company putting quality and innovation at the top of their priority list and that is a rare quality these days.
This company is a leader not a follower, they care about their employees and have excellent customer service.
I appreciate the fact they don't jump on bandwagons.
They put out hardware that is beautiful, functional, well designed and lasts.
Their products have high resale value because of their business model.
Being an engineer myself I can see why they make certain decisions they do that make so many people upset. Understand you cant put a quad core heater in a thin notebook without enough space for proper cooling, unless you want it to crap out on you 2 years down the road.
There are some things that upset me too, like no real desktop option for a reasonable price, but overall Apple is an American company putting quality and innovation at the top of their priority list and that is a rare quality these days.
I am pretty sure that I am an AAPL shareholder. They don't send proxy voting documents to non-shareholders.
I bought around $46 (split adjusted) in early 2005. Even when AAPL drooped to $88 in March 2009, I was still up nearly 91%. I thought about buying more but in the end, portfolio diversification was more important, so I sunk my money in other things.
Even with the market meltdown, it certainly hasn't been a "lost asset" over the past two years. It was about $120 two years ago and it's sitting at $210 right now which puts it well above the S&P 500 in terms of performance. It has handily outperformed everything else in its market sector.
Pointless post.
But Virtus Investment comes to mind between last spring and summer. During the same period, The Blackstone did just as well. When Apple really gained during that last spring/summer, a lot of companies did too.
Incidentally, that was the time to buy Apple too. So did I, but don't say that anybody in their right mind would have considered Apple a very well-performing stock just before that spring. If the guy really owned some shares since 2005, he might have screamed his head off to see his money wasting away in the second half of 2008. People tend to forget that Apple almost reached that $200 figure in the past, but then it fell back to almost half that level. And that was despite having the iPhone and new MacBooks and MacBook Pros in the making.
I've had Apple shares in the past and they might have been the only company that I've had any emotional attachment with. Personally, I finished with them and I expect the market to stabilise and bring down the price of AAPL. But if you are doing stocks with that attitude, you should stop or downsize. Besides, this whole 2005-2010 thing is so odd. That's a very long time for anybody.
The original comment was about Apple's share price in 2005. I've never sat on any share for five years, but I can actually post a picture of my classic SL that I bought from the profit from selling Virtus at the right time. But $275?! It's mad. I would advise everybody to sell, while they can.
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I am forever at a loss with the amount of Mac bashers out there...primarily US based bashers at that.
You find them in the blogs, the gadget sites and many tech pages. The US has so few bright spots as of late and the few US companies like Boeing and Apple that are always pushing forward, forcing the world to take notice are increasingly rare.
Call me a Fanboy... if you wish but I am far from being a blind loyalist. Apple has earned my loyalty simply by being an impressive entity.
I am forever at a loss with the amount of Mac bashers out there...primarily US based bashers at that.
You find them in the blogs, the gadget sites and many tech pages. The US has so few bright spots as of late and the few US companies like Boeing and Apple that are always pushing forward, forcing the world to take notice are increasingly rare.
Call me a Fanboy... if you wish but I am far from being a blind loyalist. Apple has earned my loyalty simply by being an impressive entity.
Absolutely. Apple is having record quarters selling premium-priced products during an economic apocalypse. Their P/E is at a measly 20 (Amazon P/E is 63!). They have bajillions in cash. The economy has a lot of recovery to come. $300+ is entirely rational, and in the not-too-distant future.
Indeed. One would almost think many of them are organized or something...
These are:
1) Netbook owners insecure of the iPad and mad at Steve Jobs for calling netbooks "worthless", "crappy", etc.
2) Nexus One, Droid, etc. owners insecure of the iPhone.
3) Google Employees realizing Apple is the true innovator and Google is the one-hit wonder company that's become the new Microsoft.
4) Adobe employees.
5) HTC employees.
6) Samsung Employees.
7) Sony Employees.
8) Microsoft Employees.
10) Asus Employees.
11) Acer Employees.
12) HP Employees.
13) Amazon Employees.
14) Kindle Owners.
etc...
You know that the analysts' mean recommendation is a 1.9 (1 = buy, 5 = sell), right?
You also know that analyst estimates have Apple almost doubling their EPS this coming year and that the *low* estimate still has them up 34%, right?
Analysts Brian Marshall and Andy Hargreaves (whose track records on Apple are very good) see a 30% upside for Apple stock. Hargreaves is also forecasting 3.3 million iPads to be sold this year.
A stock price of $275 a year hence is a 31% increase from today's $210 close. Well within reason.
I don't consider your pursuit of encyclopedic computer knowledge to be any odder than memorizing baseball statistics, NASA mission details, or Alfred Hitchcock movies.
I note that people who are reciting baseball stats usually do so with a grin on their face. I don't get the same feeling when I read your posts here. You simply don't sound happy.
It's just my observation.
Not all belief systems care for money per se. Apple has some fine UI and industrial design, which is why it interests some, but they may have no interest in increasing their influence except by operating a means of production. You're projecting your value system on others, and this false premise leads to an unsound conclusion.
You know that the purpose of a public analyst is to influence the market, not to predict it, yes? MacRumors even helpfully summarises all "rumours" to help you observe how the process works.
Dude, you sound a lot like me. I too am a bit disappointed in Apple these days. I guess I liked Apple when it was Apple Computer. Even when they were an electronics company. I find myself increasingly dispirited by Apple the Content King. On the one hand, I just don't like the direction of the company or what it represents anymore - the pushing of proprietary formats, the coming attempts to monetize web content for new "experience" devices like the iPad, and so on - of course, we've discussed this before.
On the other, it also seems Apple's computers are just an afterthought now. There was a time Intel was releasing new chips to Apple BEFORE everyone else. Now we've returned to the bad old days of Apple peddling computers stuffed with borderline ancient tech for grossly inflated prices. I have a MacBook Pro from Feb. 2007 - then Penryn model - and the new ones, nearly two years later, literally offer NOTHING other than a nicer enclosure. Core 2 Duo is old now. Nvidia 9600M (basically a rebranded 8600M) is beyond ancient. The desktop line continues to offer nothing for people who, you know, want DESKTOP components for under $3000. I could go on.
Bottom line, I like OS X, but I'm pretty platform neutral. I buy whatever is the best hardware at the time. When I bought my MBP, it was simply a stunning machine. C2D, solid GPU, all in a thin, elegant case. Even at the high price point, nothing could touch it's performance in this form factor. This MBP replaced not one, not two, but THREE computers - my old PB G4, my old PM G5, and my old PC tower. Now, things have changed. Sony is about to release a new Z with i5 and i7 arrandales and a Nvidia GT310M all in a 13" 3.5lb package. For gaming, the lowly M11X, which starts at $799, whips the 17" MacBook Pro and says "call me daddy." I could go on but you know all of this.
Apple's attention is clearly not on computers anymore. It's on things like cell phones and content delivery systems. If I were a shareholder, maybe I'd be happy about that, as they are clearly making a killing in that business. As a computer enthusiast, I can't help but consider moving on. I am thinking of going back to two computers - a sweet Windows tower and some crazy thin and light notebook for travel, perhaps the Vostro V13.
Im also very dissapointed with Apple's offerings apart from the iMac and the Mac Mini. The iMac IMO is the only well designed All-In-One and the Mac Mini has its uses. Those two computers are wonderful but the Mac Pro and MacBook Pros leave a lot to be desired. But then again I couldn't care less for Laptops.
You don't seem to be taking account of what consumers are looking for in a computing experience nowadays. If you think it's raw specs you're mistaken.
Apple is now beginning the gradual transition to where tech in general is going. The iPad-like platform. What that means for the traditional notion of "computer" I don't know, but in a few years' time, things will look radically different. We'll have experienced changes that come only once a decade, if that.
I'm not talking about most people - my post was about me. I agree that is the direction Apple is going, and I *hate* it. As I said in another thread - they can pry my computer from my cold dead hand
. I have zero interest in the iPad or anything like it. I want a *computer* that *I* control, not a scripted experience. I am an enthusiast geek, who knows and understands computers, not someone who's willing to give up online freedom and pay lots of money to have a glitzy interface on a flavor-of-the-month device that is "easy to use."So, I hope Apple is wrong. I think (hope?) the truth is somewhere in the middle. But who knows. In any case, the point of my post was that Apple no longer caters to what I look for in a computing experience - that died a while ago. Hence my thinking of returning to the MS fold
. And really, when I examine it, my Mac is really the only Apple thing I use. I do use iTunes. I use a Droid, not an iPhone. I use Chrome, not Safari. I am thinking of moving from iPhoto to Picasa. I use Office, not iWork. I do have iPods, but not because of any love of them, just because they are "standard" and most interoperable these days. So yeah - maybe I've been moving away from Apple for a while and not realizing it until now.
Which consumers? I am a consumer, and so are the significant majority of computer users who still aren't choosing Apple.
Agreed.
What tech exactly? What makes you think this? Apple were a harbinger of the WIMP GUI in 1984, but how else have they driven the direction of tech aimed at the general-purpose computer user? What else do the majority of people have ("tech in general") that they might not have seen if it wasn't for Apple?
This sounds like a marketing press release. Please substantiate your claim.
I wish apple would not focus so much of their time on the mobile market. It feels like as if they forgot about computers I could care less about the ipad as well. In the meantime, were almost 75 days past due for a mbp refresh which blows my mind because every other computer company in the world has updated their hardware. Execpt Apple...... who has a 14358% markup on their computers
I could care less about the ipad as well. In the meantime, were almost 75 days past due for a mbp refresh which blows my mind because every other computer company in the world has updated their hardware. Execpt Apple...... who has a 14358% markup on their computers
I'd use it for mobile gaming. I know it's an oxymoron but I already have my desktop and $799 for a notebook that is rather capable of doing so in an 11.6" form factor is rather impressive in my eyes. It's a little on the heavy side at 4.5 lbs. but 5-6 hours of battery life is fine for the road.
I've stated this before but it deeply worries me when a patronizing digital playpen is seen as the future of computers.
I get my books, movies, and music for free. The future is being forced into a content distribution model for my supposed benefit? I honestly don't believe my interests and wallet are being looked after by someone else much less a corporation.