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Public libraries in the US loan books and DVDs without charge -
that's the basic purpose of a library. One of our local libraries
even loans ebooks.

Public libraries are paid for by taxes, so Eidorian is actually
paying for the content - just not at the point of consumption.

Assuming that Eidorian doesn't digitize the books or rip the DVDs
to his system, it's legally (and ethically) proper.

yes assuming that you are right
if he does not rip from internet, he is not stealing
hard to understand though from the tone of his reply
 
Aiden do you have any idea how the licensing and viewer works for your library system's eBooks? We have downloadable audiobooks and certain materials visible via a web browser.

See the Northern California Digital Library.

You need a local library card to use the NCDL.

If we're lucky, the Ipad will increase the availability of ebooks
for all devices (a rising tide raises all boats). It will be
sad if the Ipad ebooks are DRM'd to death like Fairplay.
 
See the Northern California Digital Library.

You need a local library card to use the NCDL.

If we're lucky, the Ipad will increase the availability of ebooks
for all devices (a rising tide raises all boats). It will be
sad if the Ipad ebooks are DRM'd to death like Fairplay.
It looks like Overdrive is a commonly used provider among library systems. Last month's issue of Library Journal had a short article on the eBook readers from CES.

I've only accessed unprotected materials from Overdrive (PDF/MP3) but I know they do provide some protected WMA content.
 
It looks like Overdrive is a commonly used provider among library systems. Last month's issue of Library Journal had a short article on the eBook readers from CES.

I've only accessed unprotected materials from Overdrive (PDF/MP3) but I know they do provide some protected WMA content.

Their site also desribes protected Epub and protected PDF
content.

The use of DRM (especially for a public library) doesn't bother
me much - as long as the DRM implementation is multi-platform.
I would object to DRM that only plays on one device - my public
library taxes shouldn't goto to leverage some vendor's hardware
sales.
 
Their site also desribes protected Epub and protected PDF
content.

The use of DRM (especially for a public library) doesn't bother
me much - as long as the DRM implementation is multi-platform.
I would object to DRM that only plays on one device - my public
library taxes shouldn't goto to leverage some vendor's hardware
sales.
I agree that the content should be mutliplatform. Nonetheless the library only fits in by paying a provider for a site license for e-content. Its goals are to provide its materials and services to its patrons at no direct cost to them.

A far cry from Apple and other vendors.
 
The use of DRM (especially for a public library) doesn't bother me much - as long as the DRM implementation is multi-platform. I would object to DRM that only plays on one device - my public
library taxes shouldn't goto to leverage some vendor's hardware
sales.

I sincerely doubt you would object to Microsoft-controlled DRM that cater to devices that fall into Microsoft's ecosystem.
 
I sincerely doubt you would object to Microsoft-controlled DRM that cater to devices that fall into Microsoft's ecosystem.

Sorry, but you are wrong here.

If I am going to buy content with DRM, I don't want a closed
system. If Microsoft created a system and licensed it (for
a nominal sum, and without prejudice) to all who wanted it (and
there were other users) - that would be OK. The opposite
would be the old Fairplay system - I have nothing from Itunes
(nor from any other music store - but that's due as much to
disliking lifeless overly compressed music).

Standards-based DRM (as in DVD and BD movies) is also OK, no
worry about being stuck with some useless (but shiny) discs.

I hope that the Ipad triggers a new market for open electronic
publishing, but I have my fears that it won't be open enough.
 
Sorry, but you are wrong here.

If I am going to buy content with DRM, I don't want a closed
system. If Microsoft created a system and licensed it (for
a nominal sum, and without prejudice) to all who wanted it (and
there were other users) - that would be OK. The opposite
would be the old Fairplay system - I have nothing from Itunes
(nor from any other music store - but that's due as much to
disliking lifeless overly compressed music).

Standards-based DRM (as in DVD and BD movies) is also OK, no
worry about being stuck with some useless (but shiny) discs.

I hope that the Ipad triggers a new market for open electronic
publishing, but I have my fears that it won't be open enough.

Knowing Apple its going to be some system already in use rebranded, or they buy out an open-source solution. :rolleyes:
 
it's quite amazingly humorous just how off-topic these thread posts can deviate but an interesting read nonetheless.

congrats to apple for yet another accolade and i am glad to see when people object to awards such as this because the last thing we need is everyone in agreement on technology - competition is important in the computing ecosystem.

i enjoy macs at home, pcs at work, and my iphone everywhere i go...
 
Boy, was I really off. It's flirting with $360 today.

With a month to go, I'll readjust that to $375.

Dropping $5k on Apple stock in 2001 was the best move I ever made.

The worst move I ever made? Not taking out a second mortgage and dropping $50k on Apple stock in 2001.

Ahh, hindsight.
 
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