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How poor are some of you that you will commit crimes to save $10 a month.

Would you walk into the grocery store and stuff 3 lbs of sausage down your pant leg once a month because you could?

hey man these are tough times now. $10x24 adds up. I could use that money to get the next generation iphone
 
and your point?

okay my point, when you signed that contract, which in the legal world we call an adhesion contract - because it adheres itself to the service contract you were signing im sure said something along the lines that in buying a 3G iPhone you agree to keep and maintain and pay the applicable data charges.
 
Then you shouldn't be buying a damn iPhone. I wish I could find out how many people in line at the Apple store can really afford the rate plan. And how many of them are skipping meals or running up debt to buy it. My dumbass friend who is in debt to his ears is chomping at the bit to get his hands on one, despite me telling him he shouldn't.
Hey, you're not American unless you have a crap load of debt.
 
okay my point, when you signed that contract, which in the legal world we call an adhesion contract - because it adheres itself to the service contract you were signing im sure said something along the lines that in buying a 3G iPhone you agree to keep and maintain and pay the applicable data charges.

I'm not disagreeing with you. What I said:
If this loophole does work and you agree to the new terms on the 2G plan, AT&T should not be allowed to revert your plan & terms back to the 3G plan if it sees that you are in fact using an iPhone 3G.
 
If you are doing this, I'd rather unlock my 3G, and then use the Media Net unlimited plan and save 5 more dollars on top of it
 
I'm not disagreeing with you. What I said:
If this loophole does work and you agree to the new terms on the 2G plan, AT&T should not be allowed to revert your plan & terms back to the 3G plan if it sees that you are in fact using an iPhone 3G.
Again I have to refer to the contract you signed for 3G phone. I am sure that other agreement on iTunes will not supersede the 3G contract you signed in the store.
 
Heres how it works....

Lets say that you start out with the old iPhone before upgrading to the 3G.
Your old sim chip is registered that that old iPhones IMEI #...

As soon as you purchase the iPhone 3G and activate it, your old sim chip is deactivated, and your phone line is registered with the new 3G iPhone IMEI.

Now, when you go to put the new sim back into the old iPhone, you will have to reactivate, because of the new IMEI on your line, and new sim.

Activate the old iPhone with your new sim.

Put your new sim back into the 3G, and it should work fine... Because the iPhone 3G recognizes the sim chip.



I think that what I have gathered with this stuff is true...
Some may be incorrect, but I have truly tried this.
 
Again I have to refer to the contract you signed for 3G phone. I am sure that other agreement on iTunes will not supersede the 3G contract you signed in the store.

what if I accidentally dropped my iPhone 3G in to toilet (knock on wood) which renders it useless but I have my old iPhone laying around. Since I'm still bound to a 2 year agreement, you're saying that I can't purchase/use a different phone and plan?
 
what if I accidentally dropped my iPhone 3G in to toilet (knock on wood) which renders it useless but I have my old iPhone laying around. Since I'm still bound to a 2 year agreement, you're saying that I can't purchase/use a different phone and plan?
Just read the contract...I am not saying you can't do anything, I am just responding to your original comment that AT&T can't add data back on your plan without signing a new contract.
 
and the criticism begins... macrumors.com: news and rumors you care about, along with opinions that you could give a $#!* about.
 
When you signed that little pad when you bought your phone....that was your contract.

whoa whoa whoa boyscout. correct me if i'm wrong but don't you religiously visit a site that runs off of people routinely breaking this exact principal to satisfy your curiosity? NDA?
 
Here's the thing...If you can get away with it great no biggiieeee....

However if AT&T catches on and there is a way to track then they might back charge you the amount...This can happen even 1 1/2 years into the contract.

Just be aware of that.....
 
Here's the thing...If you can get away with it great no biggiieeee....

However if AT&T catches on and there is a way to track then they might back charge you the amount...This can happen even 1 1/2 years into the contract.

Just be aware of that.....

okay so they backcharge you for it? you just play dumb and explain how you had no idea....even if they DO backcharge it, you wont be paying more than before.
 
How poor are some of you that you will commit crimes to save $10 a month.

Would you walk into the grocery store and stuff 3 lbs of sausage down your pant leg once a month because you could?

Dude charging 20 cents a text message is a crime, and anyway, to get your money back from a large corporation trying to do the same to you is smart,
 
Here's the thing...If you can get away with it great no biggiieeee....

However if AT&T catches on and there is a way to track then they might back charge you the amount...This can happen even 1 1/2 years into the contract.

Just be aware of that.....

1. never going to happen

2. if the laws of physics get distorted and somehow this happens, "what 3g iphone?, you mean the one I lost last year?"
 
ok, so in order to do this you have to have both a 1st gen iphone?

yeah i want clarification, i have an old iphone sim card but no phone with plan, can i take out my 3g phone sim and put this one in when i get the 3g? and it will work

okay so they backcharge you for it? you just play dumb and explain how you had no idea....even if they DO backcharge it, you wont be paying more than before.

i just got a tip from gizmodo.com saying there's no way they can check on this, i think we're home free boys!!!!!!!
 
you need an old iPhone.

then you put your 3G SIM into the old iPhone and activate it via iTunes, and choose the old iPhone plans, and bam you have it.
 
Apart from the ethical side... Isn't there a chance that AT/T could charge you data per kb when using 3G if you're not on a 3G plan? Same thing with messages, could they not charge 20 cents per message as you're messaging from a 3G phone without a 3G messaging plan?

i just got a tip from gizmodo.com saying there's no way they can check on this, i think we're home free boys!!!!!!!

Wouldn't it be possible for them to just compare who signed up for an iphone and check that they all have the plans that are mandated when you sign that contract?
 
No I checked myself and I'm being billed for a 1st gen iphone plan.

Question - when you first purchased the phone, didn't you have to sign a contract with ATT? Did you not choose your plan at that time? Why weren't you required to activate the phone in-store? I'm surprised they allowed you to take it home.

To others:

What if you took your first-gen iPhone SIM and put it into a 3G BlackBerry? Is that "stealing"? What if your friend decides he doesn't want his 3G iPhone anymore and gives it to you, so you use it with your first-gen iPhone SIM - is that "stealing" as well?
 
you need an old iPhone.

then you put your 3G SIM into the old iPhone and activate it via iTunes, and choose the old iPhone plans, and bam you have it.

Does it have to be YOUR old iphone? or if someone else has a 1st gen would it work? Basically....since I don't have my old iPhone anymore.......is there any hope for me??
 
It works

I woud think it works and heres why. I was having some problems with my 2G iPhone- so I ordered a 3G iPhone. While waiting for it to come in, I popped my 2G iphone SIM card into my old AT&T 8525 which has 3G capabilities and it works no problem...I can surf the net using 3G. so with that said, I could see it working with a 3G iphone as well.
 
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