Foxconn Offers 'Record-High' Bonuses to Recruit Workers for iPhone 13 Assembly

[WilburMercer]

Share some pictures, if you can please.

I have literally zero pictures of the place. There is no reason to take a photo of anything, unless it's to be cruel about how awful the place is.
I do have a funny story about the hotel I would stay in.
So hotels in China have a floor which is for massage. It's mostly prostitution and generally not run by the hotel.
I went there for an actual massage and the conversation went like this:
Me: Massage please, no oil.
Manager: Do you want to make love?
Oh, no thanks, just massage.
We have beautiful young girls.
Ahhh, just massage is ok, can be any age.
<confusion> We do not have massage.

Here's another massage story while I'm at it. This one wasn't in Zhengzhou, but in another city in Henan province.
Me: <enters massage place>
Manager: Foot massage or sex massage?
I'm sorry, did you say foot massage or sex massage?
Yes, foot massage or sex massage?
Emm just normal massage?
OK!

 

[Expos of 1969]

It’s probably because they have lots of $$$ to offer to the workers. Beating the earnings every quarter lately.

You make me laugh. Apple or its contracted suppliers offering money because they can and not because they have to? Lucky I didn't have a mouthful of beer when I read your comment or I would be coming after you for the cost of a new keyboard.

 

[IllinoisCorn]

Agree. Maybe a combination of 2020 fallout and not wanting to work for crap wages. In my area help wanted signs are everywhere, and many of them display starting wages on the same sign.

There’s a popular local restaurant in my area that has a second restaurant set up and ready to open, but cannot hire enough people to run it. Seems right now is the best time to be picky if you’re looking for a job.

You should probably think of why the labor situation is the way it is.

And then you should be terrified. I mean, if you care.

 

[Aoligei]

Share some pictures, if you can please.

🙏

Here you go

 

[Cosmosent]

I'll be it's simply because some workers don't want to work for a number "13" product !

So their pool of who would normally do so is lower than normal.

 

[IllinoisCorn]

You make me laugh. Apple or its contracted suppliers offering money because they can and not because they have to? Lucky I didn't have a mouthful of beer when I read your comment or I would be coming after you for the cost of a new keyboard.

The single biggest cost of a company is workers.

Like all companies, Apple wants to hire and retain the best people and sometimes it takes a bigger paycheck to do that.

The time and cost involved with fixing a hiring mistake is enormous--best to do what you can to get the best people the first time and not just any Joe Blow off the street.

In other words---be competitive with salaries.

Surely you understand this.

 

[Expos of 1969]

The single biggest cost of a company is workers.

Like all companies, Apple wants to hire and retain the best people and sometimes it takes a bigger paycheck to do that.

The time and cost involved with fixing a hiring mistake is enormous--best to do what you can to get the best people the first time and not just any Joe Blow off the street.

In other words---be competitive with salaries.

Surely you understand this.

You have completely missed the point.

 

[Aoligei]

I had to visit Zhengzhou a few times for work.

The recurring thought while I was there was "why would anyone live here?"

It's poor, there's nothing of interest in the city, it's dirty, polluted, everything is cheap and of low quality.

So I'm not supposed Foxconn are having difficulty getting people to move there.

I was born in Taiyuan, Shanxi province and went to Zhengzhou couple time 2018.

Certainly there area are not clean, just like some area in New York or Toronto is not clean.

But downtown core is very clean and very nice. The Zhengzhou metro is certainly 100x more cleaner than New York subway.

 

[WilburMercer]

I was born in Taiyuan, Shanxi province and went to Zhengzhou couple time 2018.

Certainly there area are not clean, just like some area in New York or Toronto is not clean.

But downtown core is very clean and very nice. The Zhengzhou metro is certainly 100x more cleaner than New York subway.

You're not being honest. Zhengzhou is crazy depressing compared to New York.
But... I've been to Taiyuan, also a low quality, dirty city, as you know...
So I guess it's all about personal experience.

 

[PBG4 Dude]

I was born in Taiyuan, Shanxi province and went to Zhengzhou couple time 2018.

Certainly there area are not clean, just like some area in New York or Toronto is not clean.

But downtown core is very clean and very nice. The Zhengzhou metro is certainly 100x more cleaner than New York subway.

The poop cart at the local farm is 100x cleaner than the NYC subway.

 

[incoherent_1]

I had to visit Zhengzhou a few times for work.

The recurring thought while I was there was "why would anyone live here?"

It's poor, there's nothing of interest in the city, it's dirty, polluted, everything is cheap and of low quality.

So I'm not supposed Foxconn are having difficulty getting people to move there.

If you’ve been there, you probably already know, but cities like Zhengzhou may not be utopias, but for young, rural Chinese workers looking to move away from agricultural lives of their parents, these jobs are great opportunities. Not to say they shouldn’t have better working conditions, pay, etc — I just think sometimes people in wealthy western countries don’t fully understand the huge opportunity these places can be.

 

[pinsquid]

I definitely do not have the prerequisite knowledge to comment on the labor conditions and economic situation of Foxconn employees, so I'll just say that I'm glad that more money will be paid to those who decide to work at Foxconn for this assembly, and hopefully all future assemblies.

Also I really want that matte black iPhone.

 

[GeoStructural]

$1,235 may not sound like much to you but it's actually a lot if you're 14.

And probably higher than what they would get in other factories.

I had to visit Zhengzhou a few times for work.

The recurring thought while I was there was "why would anyone live here?"

It's poor, there's nothing of interest in the city, it's dirty, polluted, everything is cheap and of low quality.

So I'm not supposed Foxconn are having difficulty getting people to move there.

I don't know how fair your comment is, I have also been to China although I went to their paradise cities: Suzhou, Hangzhou which are way different. I also saw unsightly things such as the public markets, but overall I was impressed with so much beauty, history, research at universities and most importantly: Parks and Architecture, it was just beyond anything in the U.S.

 

[Aoligei]

You're not being honest. Zhengzhou is crazy depressing compared to New York.
But... I've been to Taiyuan, also a low quality, dirty city, as you know...
So I guess it's all about personal experience.

LOL. I acknowledge that Taiyuan is pretty bad during winter time. But it is nothing low quality, dirty city.

If you work around in New York, especially subway, how many homeless you can witness?

I don’t know when you visited Zhengzhou or Taiyuan. Give me a city in China that is not low quality, dirt? I guess none.

 

[WilburMercer]

If you’ve been there, you probably already know, but cities like Zhengzhou may not be utopias, but for young, rural Chinese workers looking to move away from agricultural lives of their parents, these jobs are great opportunities. Not to say they shouldn’t have better working conditions, pay, etc — I just think sometimes people in wealthy western countries don’t fully understand the huge opportunity these places can be.

I'm Chinese. Zhengzhou is one of China's worst cities.
There are plenty of better places for migrants to go to:
Guangzhou, Shenzhen, Hangzhou, Suzhou, Shanghai, Beijing, Fuzhou, Chengdu, Chongqing... You gotta be desperate to pick Zhengzhou.

 

[TheYayAreaLiving 🎗️]

Here you go

Thanks for sharing the video. But, this only shows a good rich end side. I want to see real ZhengZhou.

 

[Deadlywrong]

You're not being honest. Zhengzhou is crazy depressing compared to New York.
But... I've been to Taiyuan, also a low quality, dirty city, as you know...
So I guess it's all about personal experience.

Go to any less maintained part of US city is depressing too. Those homeless camps under the highway bridge in Houston downtown is quite depressing too.
About those slave wage comments, is that 7.25 USD hour wage in US kinda similar too.

 

[WilburMercer]

LOL. I acknowledge that Taiyuan is pretty bad during winter time. But it is nothing low quality, dirty city.

If you work around in New York, especially subway, how many homeless you can witness?

I don’t know when you visited Zhengzhou or Taiyuan. Give me a city in China that is not low quality, dirt? I guess none.

Come on, will you tell the truth. Taiyuan is an extremely dirty city. Here's an academic study on how polluted Taiyuan is: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160412014002372

 

[TheYayAreaLiving 🎗️]

Go to any less maintained part of US city is depressing too. Those homeless camps under the highway bridge in Houston downtown is quite depressing too.
About those slave wage comments, is that 7.25 USD hour wage in US kinda similar too.

I agree. Same in Las Vegas, It's very bad.

 

[WilburMercer]

Go to any less maintained part of US city is depressing too. Those homeless camps under the highway bridge in Houston downtown is quite depressing too.
About those slave wage comments, is that 7.25 USD hour wage in US kinda similar too.

We're not talking about the US. We're talking about why it's so hard to get people to move to Zhengzhou.

 

[WilburMercer]

I don't know how fair your comment is, I have also been to China although I went to their paradise cities: Suzhou, Hangzhou which are way different. I also saw unsightly things such as the public markets, but overall I was impressed with so much beauty, history, research at universities and most importantly: Parks and Architecture, it was just beyond anything in the U.S.

Yeah Suzhou and Hangzhou are pleasant. Zhengzhou is an entirely different matter.

 

[Aoligei]

I'm Chinese. Zhengzhou is one of China's worst cities.
There are plenty of better places for migrants to go to:
Guangzhou, Shenzhen, Hangzhou, Suzhou, Shanghai, Beijing, Fuzhou, Chengdu, Chongqing... You gotta be desperate to pick Zhengzhou.

Buddy. Not everyone is able to go there and find livelihoods in these cities. You gonna have to remember these cities could provide folks from villages opportunities they need.

I also acknowledge that most cities in Northern China aren’t well developed than southern cities. But they are far from dirty and depressed.

I love my hometown, Taiyuan. I have lots of fun memories there. To each own, if I have to choose, I would stay in my hometown.

 

[WilburMercer]

Buddy. Not everyone is able to go there and find livelihoods in these cities. You gonna have to remember these cities could provide folks from villages opportunities they need.

I also acknowledge that most cities in Northern China aren’t well developed than southern cities. But they are far from dirty and depressed.

I love my hometown, Taiyuan. I have lots of fun memories there.

There is factory or hotel work for anyone in the cities I listed. I know this for a fact, as I have cousins who have moved to some of these cities and walked into jobs.
I don't doubt you love your hometown, but we need to be honest: cities like Taiyuan and Zhengzhou are awful and will always have difficulty competing with cleaner, richer, warmer southern cities.

 

[rippley5150]

The first city I taught English in was Zhengzhou, this was back in 2003. Some of the students from the University I taught at took me to a little hole in the wall shop. The shop was making pirated shoes lol The students told me that people would go to a legitimate shoe store and purchase the same pair of real shoes. The next day they would go back and return the shoes for a full refund and keep the real shoes lol

The pagodas were neat to see as was the Shaolin temple. There were a few other Kung Fu training facilities outside of the main monastery. There were many students training in rows. It was pretty cool to see them all swinging swords in unison.

 

[JPack]

Thanks for sharing the video. But, this only shows a good rich end side. I want to see real ZhengZhou.