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Here it is, the yearly implication that Apple are going to use OLED screens in the next model... and we can all guess what happens... they use IPS LCDs, thankfully. OLED is a mess - if OLED were really THAT GOOD, why are they not completely replacing LCDs? It's not as if OLED are new and bleeding edge. Apple are about colour accuracy, especially when you consider their new iPad Pro 9.7". Why would they move one product across to OLED and not the rest - can you say "inconsistent"? I am extremely confident that Apple will skip OLED panels altogether, and that they have something of their own in the pipeline... a little way off yet.

OLED screen: nice gimmick to have if your name is "Samsung".
OLED screens are considered the best screens in the world. I have a ipad pro but I prefer my galaxy tab S2 screen over it. There is no issue with color accuracy anymore, that was ages ago. You will see the light one day as soon as Apple releases it's first amoled phone. It's a no Brainer now....
 
Why on earth would they make a curved display? There's no compelling problem that a curved display would solve. The amount of phones with curved displays can be counted on one hand; it's hardly a revolutionary technology, and hardly a "must have" that everyone's hyped about... so why would Apple - king of pragmatism - use it just for the sake of it being curved?

I don't see it and I don't buy it. Wow, it never fails to astonish me how idiotic SO many people think Apple are.

But just think, when the curved screen iPhone arrives people will be waiting in line all night to buy one. Apple won't be idiotic then, will they?
 
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Would be great if Apple improved the Shenzhen operations by lifting wages for its offshore workers, reducing their hours, and giving them proper working conditions. Apple is totally dragging its feet. And the issue at hand is OLED vs LCD?? What a joke!

Wages
- The wage of an Apple factory worker inChina is about $310 USD per month. (2000 Chinese Yuan per month, but somewhere between 850 Chinese Yuan per month to 2030 Chinese Yuan.)
- The wage of a factory worker in the USA is about $3900 USD. (Notice the extra zero?)

Hours of work
- The hours of work in Apple’s offshore factories are at least 60 hours with records showing Apple’s offshore factory workers can frequently work up to more than 100 hours in a week.
- The hours of work in the USA is around 40 hours.

Buying an iPhone
- iPhone SE 16GB price in China is $510 USD. (3288 Chinese Yuan.)
- iPhone SE 16GB price in the USA is $399 USD.

I regularly work 80-100 hours per week. Boohoo. Maybe I should write the president and cry.

Wages out of context with expenses mean nothing. What benefits are included with the different jobs? What is the cost of necessities in each country.

How are there people that think such simplistic analysis as you posted mean anything at all?
 
But just think, when the curved screen iPhone arrives people will be waiting in line all night to buy one. Apple won't be idiotic then, will they?
It won't happen any more than a circular or triangular display would happen. If it were such a good idea, you can count on the fact that ALL the Android mfrs would have done it, and guess what? It's a gimmick, and they haven't.

IF Apple created some variant of a curved screen it would make sense and actually serve some logical purpose without stooping to sheer showboating and gimmickry, but I can't imagine it would be anything like the current nonsense, so yes - it wouldn't be idiotic if it served some sensible purpose.

As Tim Cook has said - they like to be the best, not the first. If they used curvature, yeah, I'd have total confidence that their implementation would make the rest of these childish attempts at sensationalist toys look like exactly that. I don't see it coming, but then you don't see a 300mph train coming around the bend until it's about to hit you, do you!
 
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OLED screens are considered the best screens in the world. I have a ipad pro but I prefer my galaxy tab S2 screen over it. There is no issue with color accuracy anymore, that was ages ago. You will see the light one day as soon as Apple releases it's first amoled phone. It's a no Brainer now....

"Best" and "in the world" - sounds like something a marketing intern conceived of in their coffee break. You're gonna have to delve into a lot more depth of detail and cite sources when making such simplistic and spurious, off-the-cuff claims as to a flawed technology's technical benefits.

Anyone can make a claim, just as people often will nebulously spit out the phrase "They say that... <dubious_claim_here>" ... to which I ask "Who is this all-knowing and great `they` who are always cited as having universally accepted and believed opinions on EVERYTHING?".
 
It won't happen any more than a circular or triangular display would happen. If it were such a good idea, you can count on the fact that ALL the Android mfrs would have done it, and guess what? It's a gimmick, and they haven't.

IF Apple created some variant of a curved screen it would make sense and actually serve some logical purpose without stooping to sheer showboating and gimmickry, but I can't imagine it would be anything like the current nonsense, so yes - it wouldn't be idiotic if it served some sensible purpose.

As Tim Cook has said - they like to be the best, not the first. If they used curvature, yeah, I'd have total confidence that their implementation would make the rest of these childish attempts at sensationalist toys look like exactly that. I don't see it coming, but then you don't see a 300mph train coming around the bend until it's about to hit you, do you!

Is it anymore of a gimmick than sending your heartbeat on your watch? Or being able to draw and send a pic on a 38mm screen? Or 3D Touch?
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"Best" and "in the world" - sounds like something a marketing intern conceived of in their coffee break. You're gonna have to delve into a lot more depth of detail and cite sources when making such simplistic and spurious, off-the-cuff claims as to a flawed technology's technical benefits.

Anyone can make a claim, just as people often will nebulously spit out the phrase "They say that... <dubious_claim_here>" ... to which I ask "Who is this all-knowing and great `they` who are always cited as having universally accepted and believed opinions on EVERYTHING?".

It's magical. It just works.
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"Best" and "in the world" - sounds like something a marketing intern conceived of in their coffee break. You're gonna have to delve into a lot more depth of detail and cite sources when making such simplistic and spurious, off-the-cuff claims as to a flawed technology's technical benefits.

Anyone can make a claim, just as people often will nebulously spit out the phrase "They say that... <dubious_claim_here>" ... to which I ask "Who is this all-knowing and great `they` who are always cited as having universally accepted and believed opinions on EVERYTHING?".

A flawed technology that Apple is gearing up to use?
 
Is it anymore of a gimmick than sending your heartbeat on your watch? Or being able to draw and send a pic on a 38mm screen? Or 3D Touch?

Friend, you're very provocative and seemingly just here to prove a point. I see you around a lot, usually picking fault and/or an argument with someone. Please, save your keystrokes.
 
why would you do that.....this just gives Samsung some ammo to shoot back with "look who is copying now" commercials.

unless apple can find a different way to use the edges.....am just not thinking of how....maybe that's why i dont work at apple! lol

That boat sailed long ago. Samsung/Android have long since caught up and even surpassed Apple in terms of features. They aren't the ones copying anymore, and haven't been for quite some time now.
 
Would be great if Apple improved the Shenzhen operations by lifting wages for its offshore workers, reducing their hours, and giving them proper working conditions. Apple is totally dragging its feet. And the issue at hand is OLED vs LCD?? What a joke!

Wages
- The wage of an Apple factory worker inChina is about $310 USD per month. (2000 Chinese Yuan per month, but somewhere between 850 Chinese Yuan per month to 2030 Chinese Yuan.)
- The wage of a factory worker in the USA is about $3900 USD. (Notice the extra zero?)

Hours of work
- The hours of work in Apple’s offshore factories are at least 60 hours with records showing Apple’s offshore factory workers can frequently work up to more than 100 hours in a week.
- The hours of work in the USA is around 40 hours.

Buying an iPhone
- iPhone SE 16GB price in China is $510 USD. (3288 Chinese Yuan.)
- iPhone SE 16GB price in the USA is $399 USD.

China File
https://www.chinafile.com/reporting...hina-apple-supplier-pays-workers-less-foxconn

China Labor Watch
http://www.chinalaborwatch.org/report/107

CNET
http://www.cnet.com/au/news/low-wag...persist-at-iphone-factory-claims-labor-group/

Forbes
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timwors...ndia-then-las-15-minimum-wage-will-cost-jobs/

Huffington Post
http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/average-cost-factory-worker_n_1327413.html

Market Watch
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/it...-wages-to-afford-10000-apple-watch-2015-03-10


What's the cost of living in China?
 
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And look at what iOS has tons of, as well as the web.

Android has just as much white space as iOS does and battery life on Android phones usually surpasses that of iPhones, so that point isn't very valid. AnandTech also did an AMOLED efficiency analysis last year that found that when displaying pure white (with no other colors whatsoever) AMOLED was about 33% less efficient, but most of the time AMOLED display are more efficient.

Furthermore, they also stated that based on Samsung's past improvements in their AMOLED technology, by this year AMOLED displays should be just as efficient as LCD displays even in their worst case scenarios (pure white). So it's safe to assume that by the time the iPhone gets an OLED display power efficiency will have surpassed that of LCD displays even when displaying pure white.
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Things 'popping out' as you say is really the opposite of accurate. I don't know about you but when I walk around the real world i rarely see colors 'popping out'. I think that's the main complaint about OLED. Stuff just looks fake, regardless of what the tests say. Grass and the sky is just way too radioactive looking. Things just look way more real on the iPhone.

I would take Displaymates reviews with a grain of salt. They make alot of their revenue from Samsung advertising. Just one look at their website and you know they know very little about real technology. Their website looks straight from 1998.

That's why I made it a point to say that I compared the same pictures, websites, videos, etc. on both displays to ensure that the colors on each weren't completely different. By "popping out" I didn't mean inaccurate, I meant more along the lines of things looking brighter, clearer, and more vibrant. More vibrant colors doesn't have necessarily mean more inaccurate colors. If the colors were inaccurate I definitely would've noticed as I used to own a Galaxy S4 that had a pretty inaccurate display. The display on the S7, however, was just as accurate as my iPhone's display.

Something that I also think is interesting is that that while color accuracy is important, I'd bet that most people would prefer a somewhat less accurate, highly saturated OLED display over an LCD display.My reasoning for this is based on when I owned the S4 as mentioned above. It had an inaccurate, highly saturated display, but when I would show friends family pictures/videos that I took on the S4 they would constantly were wowed by how the display looked. Granted, that was a few years ago, but it's something I thought was worth mentioning.
 
Android has just as much white space as iOS does and battery life on Android phones usually surpasses that of iPhones, so that point isn't very valid. AnandTech also did an AMOLED efficiency analysis last year that found that when displaying pure white (with no other colors whatsoever) AMOLED was about 33% less efficient, but most of the time AMOLED display are more efficient.

Furthermore, they also stated that based on Samsung's past improvements in their AMOLED technology, by this year AMOLED displays should be just as efficient as LCD displays even in their worst case scenarios (pure white). So it's safe to assume that by the time the iPhone gets an OLED display power efficiency will have surpassed that of LCD displays even when displaying pure white.
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That's why I made it a point to say that I compared the same pictures, websites, videos, etc. on both displays to ensure that the colors on each weren't completely different. By "popping out" I didn't mean inaccurate, I meant more along the lines of things looking brighter, clearer, and more vibrant. More vibrant colors doesn't have necessarily mean more inaccurate colors. If the colors were inaccurate I definitely would've noticed as I used to own a Galaxy S4 that had a pretty inaccurate display. The display on the S7, however, was just as accurate as my iPhone's display.

Something that I also think is interesting is that that while color accuracy is important, I'd bet that most people would prefer a somewhat less accurate, highly saturated OLED display over an LCD display.My reasoning for this is based on when I owned the S4 as mentioned above. It had an inaccurate, highly saturated display, but when I would show friends family pictures/videos that I took on the S4 they would constantly were wowed by how the display looked. Granted, that was a few years ago, but it's something I thought was worth mentioning.

Android phones also have bigger batteries than comparatively sized iPhones.
 
I wouldn't mind a wrap around screen on the iPhone Plus model, just so long as it does SOMETHING. The ones on the Samsung handsets look and feel great, but I'm still trying to figure out what functionality it adds other than good aesthetics.
 
But just think, when the curved screen iPhone arrives people will be waiting in line all night to buy one. Apple won't be idiotic then, will they?

That's crazy talk.
What's next, a pencil with the iPhone 8?
Madness.

Samsung-Galaxy.jpg
 
If this is true:

1- I hope a 5.8" screen is NOT a wrap-over-the-edges a la Samsung (it's useless and aesthetically not pleasant).

2- I hope it doesn't mean this 5.8" screened handset will be much larger than the 5.5" iPhones 6s Plus (could be a bezel-less phone)

3- I hope Apple would release an iOS "dark mode" to make the most of the OLED blacks and energy saving capabilities, like they do with the Watch.

Nontheless, I think it would be odd for Apple to release a total redesign in a 'toc' year (2017 would be the 'iPhone 7s' year), unless they´re planning to totally change their release schedule and introduce a revamped model every year instead, to revert Y-O-Y sales decline.
 
Here it is, the yearly implication that Apple are going to use OLED screens in the next model... and we can all guess what happens... they use IPS LCDs, thankfully. OLED is a mess - if OLED were really THAT GOOD, why are they not completely replacing LCDs? It's not as if OLED are new and bleeding edge. Apple are about colour accuracy, especially when you consider their new iPad Pro 9.7". Why would they move one product across to OLED and not the rest - can you say "inconsistent"? I am extremely confident that Apple will skip OLED panels altogether, and that they have something of their own in the pipeline... a little way off yet.

OLED screen: nice gimmick to have if your name is "Samsung".
Yeah, and if Diesels were that good they’d completely replace petrol…………….
Choices man, choices.
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Apple uses 2-3 year design platforms for designing, like first iPhone - 3G-3GS were one platform (plastic cover),
4-4s were a second platform (glass cover), 5-5S/6-6S (metal/aluminum cover) - so the next platform change is either 7 or or 8. I don't know what can they change so drastically in materials, after bendgate they are trying to make more sturdy phone and metal is a best, arguably, so either aluminum to stay or maybe some other kind of metal cover. I just don't think they'll move to cheap plastic like Galaxy.
Perhaps 7 may resemble a much thinner iPhone SE, for example, but with 4.7/5.5 inch display and iPad Pro like antenna covers.
iPod-touch-6th-generation-disappointment.jpg


8 will be a full redesign with OLED and new metals?
That mock up works well for me. Please send to Feedback@Apple.com
 
What's the cost of living in China?
Cost of living in the USA is about 45% - 135% higher than in China. 1
Wages of factory workers in the USA is about 1158% higher than in China. 2

1. http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-livin...ult.jsp?country1=China&country2=United+States
2. The wage of an Apple factory worker in China is about $310 USD per month. (2000 Chinese Yuan per month, but somewhere between 850 Chinese Yuan per month to 2030 Chinese Yuan.) The wage of a factory worker in the USA is about $3900 USD. (Notice the extra zero?)

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I regularly work 80-100 hours per week. Boohoo. Maybe I should write the president and cry.

Wages out of context with expenses mean nothing. What benefits are included with the different jobs? What is the cost of necessities in each country.

How are there people that think such simplistic analysis as you posted mean anything at all?
Well you shouldn't have to work 80-100 hours for a living wage. There are only 112 hours in a week if you take time out for sleep! Citizens should not have to work longer than 30 hours a week to obtain a full time sufficient wage to live on. Sure, but if you wish to work longer, go above and beyond, fine work longer. But to achieve a good and fair living wage should equate to around 30 hours. Leaves time for actually living, family, friends, and reading MacRumors!

Some context to help:

Cost of living in the USA is about 45% - 135% higher than in China.
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Wages of factory workers in the USA is about 1158% higher than in China. 2

There is complete wage imbalance in China. Apple needs to completely up its game to correct this terrible misdeed.

1. http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-livin...ult.jsp?country1=China&country2=United+States
2. The wage of an Apple factory worker inChina is about $310 USD per month. (2000 Chinese Yuan per month, but somewhere between 850 Chinese Yuan per month to 2030 Chinese Yuan.) The wage of a factory worker in the USA is about $3900 USD. (Notice the extra zero?)
 
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Android phones also have a absurdly high resolution displays compared to the iPhone
Precisely. Also, those gigantic batteries are necessary for Android, since it is an incredibly inefficient, power sucking OS, so needs an endless supply of battery to power those ridiculous quad/octa core CPUs which have to have that much overkill due to them needing to overcompensate for all the power chewed up in garbage collection, poor app management, background services from any app which thinks it would like to merrily chomp away at your data connection and CPU... oh, and the RAM overload is for precisely the same reasons; keep throwing power and specs at the problem, I mean, why go to all the effort of optimising your OS and removing Java and rewriting it with compiled code when you can just keep making bigger CPUs, adding more RAM and producing ridiculously large batteries, eh?
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I wouldn't mind a wrap around screen on the iPhone Plus model, just so long as it does SOMETHING. The ones on the Samsung handsets look and feel great, but I'm still trying to figure out what functionality it adds other than good aesthetics.

Don't worry, Samsung are also trying to work that one out, but hey, it sells them a lot of unit volume due to wow factor, so that's ok...:rolleyes::D
 
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That's from 2013, though. It's 2016 now and OLED displays are widely regarded as being more efficient (except for when displaying pure white), brighter, more vibrant, less reflective, and just as accurate as LCD displays are. There's a reason the S7/S7 Edge have been tested and reviewed by DisplayMate as having the best smartphone displays. Putting my iPhone 6s Plus's display next to the the S7's OLED display and the difference is staggering. Everything looks so much better on the S7's display.

I compared pictures, web pages, etc. and had it set to the most color accurate mode and saw no difference in terms of color between the images display on both screens, but on the S7's display everything really popped out at you and was overall more vibrant and better looking. It's hard to explain without seeing it in person, but after seeing them side by side it's clear that Apple has fallen behind in terms of display quality (that's not to say Apple's displays are bad; they're not... they just aren't as good as current OLED displays). I really hope they move up the adoption to OLED to the iPhone 7 instead of next year's iPhone.

I hope the OLED tech is indeed getting better as you say. Light emitting pixels are superior to backlighting. I hope the tech matures into a stable and ubiquitous tech in my lifetime. LCDs have had crap for contrast ratio since day one and I have found it very hard to adapt to them for photography, after a life of CRTs (and CRTs were blurry and bent crap compared to the straight and sharp LCDs that took over, so it's a bit of a trade-off).

Apple's displays aren't really that great anyway. My iPhone 6s screen, and every other iPhone 6s I examined at the local Apple Store, has a warm left side and cool right side. I'm not the only one seeing this on their iPhones but it's not a thing Apple cares about addressing because most consumers don't perceive it. I've even stopped perceiving it daily (but it's still there) because I don't use my iPhone as much as I used to now that I have an iPad. Luckily my iPad Pro has no such color temperature inconsistency.
 
Android has just as much white space as iOS does and battery life on Android phones usually surpasses that of iPhones, so that point isn't very valid. AnandTech also did an AMOLED efficiency analysis last year that found that when displaying pure white (with no other colors whatsoever) AMOLED was about 33% less efficient, but most of the time AMOLED display are more efficient.

Furthermore, they also stated that based on Samsung's past improvements in their AMOLED technology, by this year AMOLED displays should be just as efficient as LCD displays even in their worst case scenarios (pure white). So it's safe to assume that by the time the iPhone gets an OLED display power efficiency will have surpassed that of LCD displays even when displaying pure white.
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That's why I made it a point to say that I compared the same pictures, websites, videos, etc. on both displays to ensure that the colors on each weren't completely different. By "popping out" I didn't mean inaccurate, I meant more along the lines of things looking brighter, clearer, and more vibrant. More vibrant colors doesn't have necessarily mean more inaccurate colors. If the colors were inaccurate I definitely would've noticed as I used to own a Galaxy S4 that had a pretty inaccurate display. The display on the S7, however, was just as accurate as my iPhone's display.

Something that I also think is interesting is that that while color accuracy is important, I'd bet that most people would prefer a somewhat less accurate, highly saturated OLED display over an LCD display.My reasoning for this is based on when I owned the S4 as mentioned above. It had an inaccurate, highly saturated display, but when I would show friends family pictures/videos that I took on the S4 they would constantly were wowed by how the display looked. Granted, that was a few years ago, but it's something I thought was worth mentioning.

Maybe, maybe not, but then, Apple are not about pandering to the fickle, ignorant consumer wants of "most people"; Apple are masters of their art - THEY would know they'd designed an inferior product in the same way that an artist doesn't display his second best paintings in a gallery, the same applies to Apple's hardware.

Want all you like, but if there's no compelling reason to use a technology, and if it doesn't fit with their highly polished and superb aesthetic sensibility of design, they're absolutely not going to use it "just because"
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I hope the OLED tech is indeed getting better as you say. Light emitting pixels are superior to backlighting. I hope the tech matures into a stable and ubiquitous tech in my lifetime. LCDs have had crap for contrast ratio since day one and I have found it very hard to adapt to them for photography, after a life of CRTs (and CRTs were blurry and bent crap compared to the straight and sharp LCDs that took over, so it's a bit of a trade-off).

Apple's displays aren't really that great anyway. My iPhone 6s screen, and every other iPhone 6s I examined at the local Apple Store, has a warm left side and cool right side. I'm not the only one seeing this on their iPhones but it's not a thing Apple cares about addressing because most consumers don't perceive it. I've even stopped perceiving it daily (but it's still there) because I don't use my iPhone as much as I used to now that I have an iPad. Luckily my iPad Pro has no such color temperature inconsistency.

Why do you think that, just because OLED exists, it is the holy grail of display technology, just because no one has yet come up with anything superior to it? If you're stuck in the desert with a donkey, it's the best transport there is... short term. For all anyone knows, Apple could very possibly have conceived of a display technology that is vastly superior to OLED, but they'd prefer to keep it quiet and test it thoroughly for years, rather than release a lemon (that's what the rest of the tech industry is for Apple - a free testing ground and comedy club, in many cases.)

Just because something is not known about, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It's not known about because people are shameless plagiarists in technology, so it's hush hush for now. I'll bet a huge sum on this being the case, *or* maybe that Apple, as with most rational people, see nothing wrong with their superb IPS LCDs.
 
Android phones also have a absurdly high resolution displays compared to the iPhone

The iPhone 6S Plus has a battery with 2750 and is a 1080p phone. The S7E has 3600 and a 1440p. The resolution really isn't that absurdly different. The battery, however, still is pretty large in comparison.

Of course, you could be comparing the 6S and S7. That one you have a case for. Of course, the S7 with the bigger battery, supposedly more efficient display, doesn't match the 6S in battery life from what I've read.

You really can't take people insinuating anything less than great about an Android device, can you?
 
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