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Foxconn Workers Reportedly Strike over iPhone 5 Quality Control Demands
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Oh man if the Arab spring somehow extended into China and changed the evil regime that rules that great nation that would truly be one of the defining moments in human history. I hope I live to see that day.
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You mean he's gay? Yes I think he's come out and admitted that.
He could still have kids. There are ways and means. Maybe he would buy them pink Cadillacs instead of Lambo's. Just joking!
Tim Cook knew this going in!
Everyone lauded Tim Cook (even the dead CEO) for his ability to sequester the supply chain and help to put Apple to the top of the most valuable companies. Well, this is what will keep happening. It's called slavery in 21st century and it is spreading back to The New World as Foxconn ramps up production in Brazil.
Everyone lauded Tim Cook (even the dead CEO) for his ability to sequester the supply chain and help to put Apple to the top of the most valuable companies. Well, this is what will keep happening. It's called slavery in 21st century and it is spreading back to The New World as Foxconn ramps up production in Brazil.
Other manufacturers use QC checkpoints to catch defective products. When a sub par product is built and caught by QC they are _not_ shipped to the customer.
However after reading the article the OP provided the link to, it openly speaks of the scratched phones.
Since it appears that these scratches are on the phone upon unpacking it from the original box, then one could surmise that we know the source of scratches.
I wonder of some point they will stop them from being shipped? About five of people at work received their phones yesterday and they were all scratched in nearly the exact same places. Plus these are very easily seen, one doesn't have to look close to see them, they are very obvious and large.
This is what I've referred to when mentioned in prior posts about the apparent lack of care, at the quality control check point. It's the exact same problem I had with two BTO 15" MacBook Pro's last year, and now two iPhone 5's this year.
What good is a quality control check if damaged products sail through, get packaged and sent to the customer?
Hello Apple ?
However after reading the article the OP provided the link to, it openly speaks of the scratched phones.
Since it appears that these scratches are on the phone upon unpacking it from the original box, then one could surmise that we know the source of scratches.
I wonder of some point they will stop them from being shipped? About five of people at work received their phones yesterday and they were all scratched in nearly the exact same places. Plus these are very easily seen, one doesn't have to look close to see them, they are very obvious and large.
This is what I've referred to when mentioned in prior posts about the apparent lack of care, at the quality control check point. It's the exact same problem I had with two BTO 15" MacBook Pro's last year, and now two iPhone 5's this year.
What good is a quality control check if damaged products sail through, get packaged and sent to the customer?
Hello Apple ?
since when did i say that plastic is superior? sheesh dude, you exploded for absolutely no reason.
i simply said that aluminum isn't perfect either since is a neurotoxin and aluminum getting into the water supply is a serious concern. it's one of the elements that is tested for in the water when you buy a new home if your house does not have municipal water. it's the reason why SIGG water bottles have an epoxy coating on the interior of the bottle and why after dropping the bottle, you are supposed to check if the epoxy is cracked. if it's cracked, you need to get rid of it and get another one. that's a reason why i use stainless steel water bottles.
never did i say plastic > aluminum. i was merely informing. try not to leech onto something and explode, it does wonders for your blood pressure. just some kind advice from a fellow forum member ok?
Where did I "explode"? I think you should re-read your comments before assuming anyone else's tone. Just some advice from a fellow forum member
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About 20 suicides at Foxconn. 40,000 suicides per year in the USA.
Foxconn has about 1.2 million employees. With the same suicide rate at the USA you would expect about 180 suicides per year, but there are only 20. So something they are doing must be quite excellent.
When someone thinks being dead is better than being alive, and when that person then can think of a method to kill themselves that they are not afraid of, then you have a suicide attempt. If that method works, you have a suicide. Some employee unfortunately gave an example of a method that worked, and was copied. Suicide nets stop it from working, saving lives.
Now putting up suicide nets has one huge, huge, problem for the company doing it: There will be rats crawling out of their holes claiming that putting up suicide nets proves the company is doing something wrong. So Foxconn had the choice: Do nothing about suicides, or do something about it and have people taking that is prove that Foxconn is somehow at fault. Samsung would surely have claimed "there is no evidence that we are at fault", like they claim "there is no evidence of child labour". Foxconn put up needs. An admirable decision which saves lives.
If they don't want the work then they can jog on and let someone else do it!
They queue up to get a days work in these factories ... they are not forced to do it!
And it's about time QC was tightened up ... you would not believe how many iPhones and iPads I have returned due to them having dust under the screens, and/or scratches on the bodywork.
I just had to return a CTO rMBP because it arrived with two dents on the bottom of the casing! They just don't care!
So screw these people and their striking/kicking off ... I say don't offer them anymore work and get people in who will actually perform the work to the required level.
I love Apple products but I've all but walked away from the brand due to the poor quality control of recent (I literally buy an Apple product these days and think to myself "what will be wrong this time?").
I say weed out the rotten Apples (no pun intended) and get production up to the standard that should be expected for the money that we pay for these devices ...
They queue up to get a days work in these factories ... they are not forced to do it!
And it's about time QC was tightened up ... you would not believe how many iPhones and iPads I have returned due to them having dust under the screens, and/or scratches on the bodywork.
I just had to return a CTO rMBP because it arrived with two dents on the bottom of the casing! They just don't care!
So screw these people and their striking/kicking off ... I say don't offer them anymore work and get people in who will actually perform the work to the required level.
I love Apple products but I've all but walked away from the brand due to the poor quality control of recent (I literally buy an Apple product these days and think to myself "what will be wrong this time?").
I say weed out the rotten Apples (no pun intended) and get production up to the standard that should be expected for the money that we pay for these devices ...
Where did I "explode"? I think you should re-read your comments before assuming anyone else's tone. Just some advice from a fellow forum member
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re-read your blow-up response and re-read my original post. no where did i say plastic was better than aluminum for the environment, yet you seem to think i did and your post shows that. below is a quote showing your misdirected accusations
your argument is without basis since your point of the discussion is fabricated...i did not suggest what you are accusing me of. i did not suggest that drinking water pipes are made out of aluminum. i suggested that aluminum is a neurotoxin which if allowed to seep into the water supply, can be damaging to human health. never did i negate the health hazards of plastic.
clearly the biggest mistake here is quoting you, because it seems on your end that you feel you are being attacked if you are being quoted. when in fact, i was merely adding to the discussion of points you already made.
LOL Maybe 5% of the population lives to that saying... Most of us in America are lazy. I work 60 hours a week for my job and a majority of my friends/family/co-workers start bitching once they hit 30 hours.
Lol! True but if they pay me time and a half and double time beyond that. I have nothing to complain.
The point is that anything over $2/hour at a clean indoor job would be a significant improvement in the lives of a lot of people on this planet. The tech industry is offering that opportunity in a few places.
Why do you think hundreds of people stand in line for the job openings at Foxconn? Even more would stand in line in parts of sub-Saharan Africa if the regional infrastructure and education system better supported the possibility of that kind of work.
I suppose a better comparison would be to show suicides of employed people working at companies worldwide, not just those from one company versus an entire nation, which includes people out of work that are much more likely to commit suicide in the first place. So, how many suicides at Foxconn versus Ford Motor Company, or some other big company? How do the statistics look when you more properly align the two sides?
Well, I know they don't have top of the line healthcare and pension plans that let them retire at age 55 with full pay and benefits. These kind of luxuries are reserved for our politicians and high end government workers. Paid for by your tax dollars. Of course they do such a great job they deserve it. Not like those ungrateful assembly line workers who are slowing down the shipment of our new iPhones. We want our iPhones now, get back to work.
You need to visit 3rd world developing country more. Foxconn in China is furthest away from slavary. Checked out this picture of line waiting to apply for a summer job in Foxconn earlier this year. Does people normally line up to be a slave???? We tends to apply our own standard of living trying to judge how others in different part of the world should live. Part of our problem of high unemployment is caused by competition from workers in other country who are willing to work for a lot less and in a lot tougher condition than us.
http://micgadget.com/28247/thousand...-jobs-ahead-of-possible-ipad-mini-production/
Actually, yes. It happens all the time. Why would you line up for anything unless someone else has you by the balls?
I'm not necessarily disagreeing with anything else you are saying, I'm just pointing out that 'slavery' is a term with a wide array of examples.
I don't care what happens behind the scenes but what I want back is QC.
I want to walk into an apple store and know that the item in the box is perfect, it's why I pay that extra more than I would if I bought an alternative even though it's a £100 item priced at £500.
I had to go through 4 ip5's to get one that should have been there at the start.
Be careful Apple because not everyone will try again, most will just walk away.
I want to walk into an apple store and know that the item in the box is perfect, it's why I pay that extra more than I would if I bought an alternative even though it's a £100 item priced at £500.
I had to go through 4 ip5's to get one that should have been there at the start.
Be careful Apple because not everyone will try again, most will just walk away.
Woh
you just blew my mind!
DA
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Do people still drink tap water? I only have tap water when I go to a restaurant .
Gross.
God knows what leached into it.
And he's not talking
Glad to see those folks standing up for their rights as ordinary people, not slaves. You don't here of any samsung products or other big company strikes in china. Apple must be low balling to make the most cash from slave labor. Lets hope the strike lasts a few MONTHS! Don't think it will be to long for the people of china to stand their ground and demand better pay and treatment. Doubtful though as the government has used troops before to silence the people. Keep on striking just to tick off the fanboys!
You totally missed the point. How many other factories in the world has suicide nets?
It would also be nice if you referenced your numbers so we know where you are getting them from. As far as i know you are pulling them out of thin air.
Do people still drink tap water? I only have tap water when I go to a restaurant .
haha - "i'll have water please"
well i presume you shower and brush your teeth with tap water...b/c showering using Deer Park would get really expensive lol