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French Union Calls for Apple Retail Store Employee Strike Coinciding with iPhone 5 Launch
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Agreed. My friends Russian wife condemns people like that "to the rice fields" for rehabilitation. LMAO.
...and the uninformed come out in force...
Things are different here in western Europe. We pay much higher taxes, everything costs a lot more (search for the price of anything and compare it to what we pay) and we end up with a lot less disposable income when compared to a similar job in the US.
As a result of this, we expect a fair trade-off in working conditions.
So yes, some of these things might sound crazy to you guys, but you need to compare it in context.
Things are different here in western Europe. We pay much higher taxes, everything costs a lot more (search for the price of anything and compare it to what we pay) and we end up with a lot less disposable income when compared to a similar job in the US.
As a result of this, we expect a fair trade-off in working conditions.
So yes, some of these things might sound crazy to you guys, but you need to compare it in context.
+1
Anyway, does anyone know wich is the average salary of Apple Store employees in France?
Damn, that sounds horrible. I guess America, where fighting for two weeks vacation and being too afraid to even use it each year is where it's at, right?
really?
this is an easy one... let em go! striking is just another way of temporarily quitting... if its anything like it is here, apple will have no problem hiring a group of people to replace these folks and they'll move right along. such a no-brainer here for apple.
this is an easy one... let em go! striking is just another way of temporarily quitting... if its anything like it is here, apple will have no problem hiring a group of people to replace these folks and they'll move right along. such a no-brainer here for apple.
yes, it is indeed a hobby
Protesting "working conditions?" No drinking fountain? No meal vouchers? No free month's pay? Really? They work in an Apple Store, not a sweatshop. Wow. Just wow.
well, all that seems normal in france, and they work for apple, i. e. the most valuable company in the world, so why not? they are not selling cookies, they are selling iphones and imacs.
they do love them in France
you are wrong my friend, won't tell you why, there are too many things to even start listing. I would suggest you get some general knowledge; maybe try reading a little bit more and try wikipedia, there is a lot of good info over there.
i agree, that one might be a little bit excessive
Example of how unions suck
Hurt the company on their biggest shopping day of the year? Bad move union. If workers were dying from unsafe conditions, OK. But "We want water fountains or we'll strike on your busiest day."? Come on.
And the union sent the announcement out with less than 24-hour notice to its members? "Hey everybody, let's strike tomorrow." That's unprofessional.
Unions had their place in developed countries years ago but today they're fighting for water fountains, free meals, and paying employees for a fictitious month. I won't be giving them a percentage of my paycheck to fight for those stupid things for me.
Hurt the company on their biggest shopping day of the year? Bad move union. If workers were dying from unsafe conditions, OK. But "We want water fountains or we'll strike on your busiest day."? Come on.
And the union sent the announcement out with less than 24-hour notice to its members? "Hey everybody, let's strike tomorrow." That's unprofessional.
Unions had their place in developed countries years ago but today they're fighting for water fountains, free meals, and paying employees for a fictitious month. I won't be giving them a percentage of my paycheck to fight for those stupid things for me.
guys,
yes free water fountain
the AC has been down for ages at the Apple Store at the Louvre, staff has been working for the last 3 years with inconsistent temperature conditions topping 40°C
try to work in these conditions before criticizing
as for meal vouchers... Opera and Louvre are locating in very expensive tourist locations of Paris
the less expensive meal would be McDonald's
unless you want to eat something else than this kind of crap, one must spend a significant amount everyday, compared to low wages given in France
yes free water fountain
the AC has been down for ages at the Apple Store at the Louvre, staff has been working for the last 3 years with inconsistent temperature conditions topping 40°C
try to work in these conditions before criticizing
as for meal vouchers... Opera and Louvre are locating in very expensive tourist locations of Paris
the less expensive meal would be McDonald's
unless you want to eat something else than this kind of crap, one must spend a significant amount everyday, compared to low wages given in France
There's a correlation here. All those "rights" you have cost money. Part of the reason Apple products (and everything else) are cheaper here is that we have lower taxes*, fewer consumer "rights," longer working hours, a smaller welfare state, etc.
* Actually, our corporate tax rate is higher in the US, which is a big political debate right now, particularly since places like Sweden have actually lowered corporate tax rates in recent years.
It's a national pastime. August is a more common month for strikes, though, since people are often on vacation that month in Europe, and so a transit strike has a bigger impact.
Maybe they should lower taxes and reduce government benefits instead of demanding more from companies which in turn jacks up prices of products and services to customers. Then customers go elsewhere and stores close and people get fired. Over taxation is bad. Just look at the 3 largest states in the US. CA, NY and IL. Heavily taxed, heavily unionized and on the bring of bankruptcy.
I'm sorry, but at what point in my comment did you see my complaining about the price of things?
I was simply stating how things are. We get benefits from this too, like everything we buy coming with 1 or 2 years warranty as standard.
I'm not asking for things to be cheaper, I was just stating our priorities are different and you shouldn't compare without context.
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