Should yes, but as long as we need to rely on the same carriers (who do not want this to happen) things will move slow.
Hence the use of the word "should".
Should yes, but as long as we need to rely on the same carriers (who do not want this to happen) things will move slow.
The answer is in the math... the financial math. iPhone = cost of the phone plus cost of a fat contract. A 3G capable iTouch = cost of the iTouch plus cost of the only-when-I-need-3G, data-only (iPad plan-like) contract. The wallet impact differences between the 2 over 2+ years is substantial.
The iPod Touch is dead. Apple, let's focus on the iPhone only please.
Obviousl u don't own an iOS device. There are plenty of texting apps available in the app store
...and this is why this rumor cannot be true. Why would Apple cannibalize iPhone sales? If I could use a voip plan, third party sms, and do everything an iPhone can do (and with even more storage), why on earth would I (an admittedly tech-savvy person) buy an iPhone? Why not bypass carrier minutes and those contracts altogether?
Wow... over and over. Class pay attention...
iPhone + continuously billed contract (whether you use any 3G or not) is substantially more expensive than iPod 3G + "use it only when you need it" data-only 3G plan.
Dead wrong. I'd buy two and ditch my and my wife's iPhones if Apple came out with 3G Touches. We don't use the iPhone for talking - we use it for everything else. The phone part is the most useless part of the iPhone to us. I could live without that.
So you don't text? Thats mostly what I use my iPhone for.
An iPod Touch with 3G is pretty much the iPhone Nano.
iPhone + continuously billed contract (whether you use any 3G or not) is substantially more expensive than iPod 3G + "use it only when you need it" data-only 3G plan.
Because not everyone is a tech-savvy person like you. As a result, Apple will still sell tons of iPhones while iPod 3Gs could see a pop in sales for those who really want an iPhone but don't want to pay so much for an AT&T or Verizon contract. That would be those who occasionally need 3G but not continously as well as a whole massive pool of tweens+ who mostly want 3G for texting and not much phone (yet face the AT&T & Verizon requirement to own a voice plan to get a texting plan).
Apple just wants to sell lots of hardware. A cheaper data-only option for some still moves the hardware unit. Better than losing that customer to Android or other options.
The iPod Touch is dead. Apple, let's focus on the iPhone only please.
Surely the majority of people carry a mobile phone right? So why would you want a iPhone without voice and txt capabilities? That just means carrying about two devices which to me seems crazy.... I can't see a big market for this, but I have been proved wrong before![]()
Is it me or is Apple trying to stick 3G on everything? Not much point since WIFI is cheaper, much faster, and much more abundant (unless you live in the woods which I understand).
If someone wants a 3G "ipod thingy" they should get an iPad or an iPhone. 3G requires a contract, too. So why would someone buy a Touch for $299 + contract when they can get the iPhone for the same price which provides more features(the phone)?
Because not everyone is a tech-savvy person like you. As a result, Apple will still sell tons of iPhones while iPod 3Gs could see a pop in sales for those who really want an iPhone but don't want to pay so much for an AT&T or Verizon contract. That would be those who occasionally need 3G but not continously as well as a whole massive pool of tweens+ who mostly want 3G for texting and not much phone (yet face the AT&T & Verizon requirement to own a voice plan to get a texting plan).
Apple just wants to sell lots of hardware. A cheaper data-only option for some still moves the hardware unit. Better than losing that customer to Android or other options.
iMessage will reduce your texting costs (if you have no plan or are able to switch to a lower volume plan), it will not reduce them to zero, there is no chance that ALL your texting will be with iOS 5 devices.Except you don't NEED those things. iMessage alone is texting without sms, not to mention the 3rd party options.
Want to call someone? Use Skype. All you need is data.
Data only SHOULD be where things are going really. SMS and voice plans are are an utter rip off.
Because this rumor is saying the data plan is iPad like, which is use it when you need it (not continuous). As such, one only pays for the data when they need it, not every month whether they use 3G or not.
People won't pay for a iTouch plus a iPhone-like contract. But I bet some will be all over an iTouch 3G with a "use-it-when-I-need-it" 3G data plan.
Rogers in Canada has a new data sharing option, which lets you share your data among all your various devices. Only problem is that it costs $10/month for each additional device on the account. So if you're paying $80/month for your existing iPhone, it'd go up to $90/month. That's not too unreasonable.
The phone part he is talking about is the actual call someone and talk to them.
In all reality, with iMessage and things like Facetime, actual phone calls happen less and less each day.
I barely call people besides my folks. Most of the time we just text and meet up or we Skype or Facetime.
With iMessage coming, I can text to most of my friends because they have iPhones.
Phone companies are going to screw us over because when they start losing Voice Plans, they will up the data plan rates.
The only difference in the iPhone and iPod Touch is literally the ability to make calls.
Voice Plans type calling is going the way of extinction also. Texts are the #1 way of communicating now.
EXACTLY.
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I can't believe people don't add up their cost of their iPhone over 2 years with contract and new iPhone. On average it's something like $2000-$3000. That is absolutely RIDICULOUS.
Voice plans and data plans are raping everyone.
I'd jump all over an iPod Touch with 3G and the ability to turn it on whenever. Then I can just have my PAYGO phone that costs me $20 a month for emergencies.
I know some need these plans for work, but for most, they don't need them. They are totally throwing their money away over 2 years. The MAJORITY would be better served with a iPodTouch 3G with the ability to turn it on and off like an iPad contract. Then you can usually just WiFi most of the time anyway.
Huge savings over the iPhone.
Because not everyone is a tech-savvy person like you. As a result, Apple will still sell tons of iPhones while iPod 3Gs could see a pop in sales for those who really want an iPhone but don't want to pay so much for an AT&T or Verizon contract. That would be those who occasionally need 3G but not continously as well as a whole massive pool of tweens+ who mostly want 3G for texting and not much phone (yet face the AT&T & Verizon requirement to own a voice plan to get a texting plan).
Apple just wants to sell lots of hardware. A cheaper data-only option for some still moves the hardware unit. Better than losing that customer to Android or other options.
Exactly! i am not paying $70-80 a month for iPhone/smartphone and I work in IT.
A kick in the rear for me if its out soon enough. I just picked up a cheap Samsung Android phone and the no-contract rates are pretty good on T-Mobile.But a lot of iPhone users are tech-savvy, and if they weren't before, they became more so after getting one and seeing what's in the app store. First time iOS-ers will likely opt for the iPhone as you suggest, but upgraders such as myself surely make up a sizable component of their sales as well.
I so agree, that's what I don't have one and I work in IT. Now and iPod Touch with 3G would be the best! Just use VoIP to makes and your set.
An iPod Touch with 3G is pretty much the iPhone Nano!