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From Steve Jobs' Biography: "I'm going to destroy Android"
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Welcome to the signs of the future. All your fancy iPhonePods, Android Robots, and other whatchamaonepointtwentyonegigawatts are all based off these two little devices here.
...and they both had rows of icons that looked vaguely similar to the grid array iOS uses today.
So there.
The top argument is the most asinine between the three. You just describe virtually every recent touchscreen device, bravo. So you want Samsung to make a circular or triangular smartphone that's ridiculously unnatural to use?
Multitouch? Not only Samsung has that. So Nokia, LG, Sony Ericsson, HTC, Motorola, ZTE, Huawei or anyone that has an Android phone (oops not just Android with the case of Nokia and HTC, WP7, Symbian^3 and MeeGo has pinch zooming) with multitouch ripped off Apple?
Row of application shortcuts? See Renzatic's post.
#1 - yes they should make the shape different as Apple has patented it.
#2 - Apple has a huge amount of awarded Multitouch patents and they did it all first on mobile phones including inventing pinch-to-zoom
#3 - While Apple wasn't the first to do application shortcuts(LG Prada) there's were the first to be beautiful
Do a little more research sonny...
Apple is just a "closed vertical system" proponent.
Apple does not force vendors to pay for their product even when they don't sell it on a system (an early MS practice when licensing their OS to hardware vendors such as dell and others). Nor do they practice a number of other shady things MS did in the late eighties and early nineties.
They just want a "walled garden" approach where they control the content on their system with the express desire of improving the user experience. If you dont like it you can do without, but they are not anti-competitive the way MS was. They are "our way or go use someone elses system".
I would love to hear how you think they are anti-competitive and not just protecting the patents on teh technology and methods they have developed.
Lordy, I had all of those at one time or another. then moved to BB to get wirless data, then phone integration, then to iphone to get back to the palm VX functionality without the stylus. I wonder what the next change will be that will draw me to something else...
Hey, I'm pulling a Samsung to your Apple here.
Haha, yeah.
Agreed. Let's move on to other things... So how about Samsung stealing from Apple, huh?
Kidding!
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Lol, you're obviously being facetious but it reminds me about this:
http://gizmodo.com/5866626/the-****-tablet-apple-thinks-samsung-should-have-made
Apple has patented beauty!
Expect the SGSIII to be a phone with a triangular shape with a triangular screen in yellow!
This is true. My point is, however, that Apple would have done that if they were in a position to, but they weren't so they haven't. That is a totally unprovable opinion which is why I refer to it as such instead of as a fact.
I think most of the lawsuits are in fact a delaying tactic and we can see that most of the patents Apple says the competition infringes upon are thrown out by the courts.
Aside from that (and off the top of my head):
- They refuse to let anything, other than an iDevice, interface with itunes store (the biggest music store on the planet)
- They refuse the let anything, other than Apple software, interface with iPods (by far the most dominant music player in the industry) unless you pay them lots of money
- There is at least one documented case of Apple removing an app from the app store because of a "undocumented" feature that Apple then copied and put in their own product
- They tried to outlaw Flash-to-native-iOS apps by decreeing which programming language developers had to use to write apps.
I'm sure there are other examples. Note that although the above are facts it doesn't mean that they necessarily are anti-competitive. Again, that is just my opinion.
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Not only did they pull his app from the App Store, they stole his icon :
http://www.cultofmac.com/99951/cydia-dev-apple-stole-both-my-idea-and-my-icon-for-wifi-sync/
Actually I was thinking of the time when they banned Camera+ for using the volume button to take pictures and then incooperated the feature in iOS 5.
Sadly, it won't happen.
People are always going to steal ideas, but if we didn't do that then we would never get any better. For instance, if Microsoft wouldn't have come along and produced the pile of poop that we call Windows, then Mac OS might not have come as far as it is today.
To those of you claiming that Android is a "slow, buggy, virus-infested" OS and that Flash kills battery life: have you ever owned an Android phone yourself? I have a 4th Generation iPod Touch and a Motorola Atrix 2. Now, while I do enjoy doing lots of things better on the iPod, I'm still in love with my phone. Flash media works OK, even though games don't. I like being able to download a new home screen app when I don't like how the one I'm using works, even though the graphics don't always match up like I can count on with iOS. The battery life is more than my iPod when I'm using graphic-intensive apps, and I utilize the bigger screen as well.
Now, hang on a minute before you reply. I'm not trying to be some Android fanboy troll on the Macrumors forum. I'm just saying that Apple, in addition to all the other companies, still has room to improve, and this is a good thing for everyone, because if there was no room to improve, then we would just be using the same technology decade after decade. It wouldn't be fair to ban competition, and if Apple thinks that it's being copied, then I look forward to seeing them outdo themselves to keep their products ahead of the game.
People are always going to steal ideas, but if we didn't do that then we would never get any better. For instance, if Microsoft wouldn't have come along and produced the pile of poop that we call Windows, then Mac OS might not have come as far as it is today.
To those of you claiming that Android is a "slow, buggy, virus-infested" OS and that Flash kills battery life: have you ever owned an Android phone yourself? I have a 4th Generation iPod Touch and a Motorola Atrix 2. Now, while I do enjoy doing lots of things better on the iPod, I'm still in love with my phone. Flash media works OK, even though games don't. I like being able to download a new home screen app when I don't like how the one I'm using works, even though the graphics don't always match up like I can count on with iOS. The battery life is more than my iPod when I'm using graphic-intensive apps, and I utilize the bigger screen as well.
Now, hang on a minute before you reply. I'm not trying to be some Android fanboy troll on the Macrumors forum. I'm just saying that Apple, in addition to all the other companies, still has room to improve, and this is a good thing for everyone, because if there was no room to improve, then we would just be using the same technology decade after decade. It wouldn't be fair to ban competition, and if Apple thinks that it's being copied, then I look forward to seeing them outdo themselves to keep their products ahead of the game.
Due to the recent rumors about a potential pact/agreemet between Tim Cook and the other manufacturers you might be right, that it is not going to happen. However, Apple has always been improving their products with new product s and better ones. From the Apple ][ to the Mac, from OS to OS iteration there has always been improvements and new features added, not necessarily due to competitors.
Apple has been a trend setter and not a follower, most of the times.
From punch cards and typing your code to cassette tapes, to double density 3.5" floppy disks to Super Drives. USB and FireWire, Thunderbolt.
And they had been very successful to make certain things work the right way.
The real interesting topics are what is going to happen in the future years to come. If they will continue wasting resources in a fight without a real winner or focus totally into developing new things and continue delivering the nice things we enjoy nowadays and even generating new ones.
Right you are. Apple does strive to create and utilize new technologies. They have always been one step ahead of the game, at least in terms of end users. They do set new ideas, and almost never have to base their ideas off of old ones (and yes, eventually manufacturers do 'have' to copy, no matter how much we hate it when they do), but the fact that other companies do use their ideas in their own software does keep them on their toes. If they were the only company in the world, they would still be great, but they may not be as eager to strive ahead and set the standards as much as they do now.
Basically what I'm trying to say is, it's good (in a sense) when people 'steal' Apple's ideas, because it makes Apple want to stop using whatever was copied and come up with a better, newer approach that's that much better than the last one.
