adnbek
macrumors 68000
This has more to do with the pervasiveness of social media combined with the self-entitled mentality of kids today more than anything... And yes it's sad indeed.
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This has more to do with the pervasiveness of social media combined with the self-entitled mentality of kids today more than anything... And yes it's sad indeed.
adnbek
macrumors 68000
Oh please... Stop perpetuating BSOD myths regarding Windows. I've had this computer running 24/7 (for years) and have never had a BSOD either with XP, Vista or 7. Since memory protection was introduced with the NT kernel, it's pretty much a thing of the past. Only bad hardware (and bad drivers that come with it) can still BSOD the system or you really just have terrible luck.
linux2mac
macrumors 65816
Nice try, but considering I have been self-employed (full time and not some weekend warrior) going on 7 years making my living as an IT consultant, I will have to disagree with you as I am pretty adept at my craft (not to mention I have a CS degree and Fortune 100 experience that will get me in the door of another Fortune 100 should I ever want to be an employee again). Furthermore, given these poor economic times, that's not bad at all. I know a few folks that had to close up shop and go back to work for a boss again. But then again I have the good fortune of doing business in "Moneyapolis" (moniker given to my city by colleagues working in cities of lesser economies).
Speaking of my great city, I have been noticing more DJ's using Mac laptops (MB's, MBP's, MBA's) at the hot clubs I frequent here. So one night I asked a DJ why he chose a MBP over a Windows laptop. His reply went something like this, "I don't want my s*** freezing up during a show." Also, I have been taking more indoor cycling classes this winter and there are instructors that use iPods and a couple that actually bring in a VAIO laptop to play music during class (yes I did laugh when I saw that). The VAIO's have frozen during class while the instructors with iPods never had problems. I didn't realize it was so difficult to play a MP3. I guess it's difficult for Windows (no surprise there).
I like your new signature. Right on the money too!!
Nothing personal here folks, just stating the facts. Happy New Year to all!!
Renzatic
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Eh. They're just idiot teenagers doing what idiot teenagers do best. Being idiots. Give em another 10-12 years. They'll appreciate the boring, practical gifts more than a new iPhone or iPad, because, damnit, they've been really meaning to go out and buy new socks and underwear, but never got around to it. But now they don't have to. Thanks mom and dad! 😀
Yeah. This happened to me this year. Admittedly, it made me feel a little old. But whatever. I don't care. I've got new socks and underwear.
Oletros
macrumors 603
Somehow that hits me. You're sounding very Zen and I like it...
I just had some drinks, getting sensitive and stuff. Cheers!
You spent more time bashing windows in one post than I have updating windows in years.
Renzatic
Suspended
Eh. I can't prove or disprove what you're saying here. But don't be too offended if I say I'm a bit suspicious.
I find that hard to believe. I've had a 20 layer 2048x file open in PS, a fairly complex model in Modo, Chrome open up with two or three tabs, and Spotify playing music in the background. That's a decently heavy load, more stress than what your average user will put their machine through, and definitely far more than what you'd get playing an MP3. I haven't even seen Win7 hiccup even once. Hell, even XP could handle that.
The only people I know who have problems out of their Windows machines are people who are near completely computer illiterate, and have 60-70 programs all trying to open at once at startup because they decided to jump at every GET FREE GAMES AND MUSIC CLICK HERE popup offer they saw. Everyone else? As long as they have even an inkling of common sense, Windows runs just fine for them.
Truthfully, if Windows machines were as absolute crap as you're saying, we all would've abandoned them for Macs a long, long time ago. But they're not. So...here I am. Kinda just standing around, using my computer for stuff, and not really caring one way or the other.
I understand the frustration that Jobs had. But it makes me think about the strategy Apple should have... Presenting iOS whas the revolution that changed the way we use mobile devices. It even changed the iPod/mp3 market. Jobs, on front of the competition, did see the functionality of the mobile phone grow and made an alternative that we know as iOS combined with iTunes. Indeed, the iPod touch is the device that started it all. Making a phonecall is just another feature. That's what makes it an iPhone right? So where's Apple now? It's on front of the competition. Apple does know what it takes to make an appstore. Apple knows what it takes to create a front to end experience. All the other companies do is copy. From the packaging to the commercial. Apps to interface, it's no secret. Instead of fighting the past, Apple should use it's position to keep the other brands where they are. To be a copycat you need an example. So lets trust on the fact that Apple is on top of things and dares to innovatie. The've got the knowledge, money and spirit that it takes to be one step ahead of the rest. Some OS like Android should'nt stop them from innovate. Let them invest into new techniques and markets instead of lawsuits and negative publicity.
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This "lovers" "haters" game that's going on is very interesting. It tells something about the underdog possition Apple is losing. In Dutch we say "High trees catch more wind." Makes me think about the position Apple has. It's cold on top and everybody sees you... It's harder to stay on top than get on top and that's what this is all about. Talking about that, Apple is'nt that alternative anymore. It's almost a statement you did'nt ask for and the price you pay for being first.
Makes me doubt about how I stand for this brand in this law war.
Makes me doubt about how I stand for this brand in this law war.
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AidenShaw
macrumors P6
It also makes all the following seem not like a call for spiritual awakening, but simply some self-serving advertising nonsense.
And the people who believe that stuff - well, they're $80 billion poorer.
vitzr
macrumors 68030
Agreed. The level of name calling & making responses to posts personal, is far higher amongst the iOS users than any other group I've witnessed within any Smartphone Forum.
For some reason there's an underlying layer of anger and spite so strong it prevents many iPhone users from having a discussion.
Instead they would rather be immature and argue, attack, spew hate, and venom than enjoy an interesting exchange of experiences with their phones.
This behavior dilutes the very purpose of a forum like this one. This could be an ideal place to learn from each others experiences & knowledge. Why so many fail to see this great opportunity, or refuse to respect their fellow enthusiast, is something I find repulsive.
I dare to say, no offence, that OSX is a creative statement and iOS is a material statement. That all started with the iPod and the white headphones. Apple did get a broader public and the tone of speech changed with it. That's what makes the discussion heated.
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AidenShaw
macrumors P6
20 words or less
That's a very succinct way of putting it.
Why else would so many Iphone cases have ugly holes so that one can see the logo even with the case on the phone?
That's a very succinct way of putting it.
Why else would so many Iphone cases have ugly holes so that one can see the logo even with the case on the phone?
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JoeG4
macrumors 68040
Yea, that's not THAT new though (they exist for Macs as well), but people that argue they bought an Apple product for aesthetic reasons and then stick an ugly case on it are nuts.
Aint nothing pretty about a 13" MBP in a hard shell case (especially the ones with the funny cutouts on the bottom), with moshi palm guards, keyboard cover, and stickers too! lol.
It's the computer equivalent of buying a car and putting stick-on chrome (or body color) "accents" on the car, those stupid bug-splatter hood things, the rain window guards, and oh yes.. that rubber stuff that goes in the edge of the door so they don't scratch the car next to them when their ill behaved kids slam the door open into the car next to it.
Aint nothing pretty about a 13" MBP in a hard shell case (especially the ones with the funny cutouts on the bottom), with moshi palm guards, keyboard cover, and stickers too! lol.
It's the computer equivalent of buying a car and putting stick-on chrome (or body color) "accents" on the car, those stupid bug-splatter hood things, the rain window guards, and oh yes.. that rubber stuff that goes in the edge of the door so they don't scratch the car next to them when their ill behaved kids slam the door open into the car next to it.
adder7712
macrumors 68000
I don't use a case on my MacBook so I enjoy its aluminium look in its splendour. 😎
I do however have a case on my Galaxy S II which actually increases grip.
wonderspark
macrumors 68040
adder7712
macrumors 68000
Saw that before. RIP society.
I actually received my Galaxy S II as a gift and I expected the white one. But I got a black one but I couldn't care less as I get a good phone.
macsmurf
macrumors 65816
I would've said that you're giving IT consultants a bad name but that wouldn't be fair to all the other consultants doing that. 😉 Make sure you never mention the fact that you can't fix BSODs to your colleagues.
I know (and work with) plenty of CS majors and other computer literate people. If computer experts have a BSOD, which rarely happens, they check the computer hardware and the drivers. That's usually were the issue is. Then they fix it by replacing the broken hardware or the broken driver. It's not that hard. I've had a kernel panic on OS X caused by a bad third party kext so it's not like it's unique for windows.
Granted, most CS people I know use Linux but that's not because of BSODs.
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Eidorian
macrumors Penryn
KnightWRX
macrumors Pentium
So much so, that Jamie Zawinski's BSOD module for XScreenSaver supports many, many OSes :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XScreenSaver
I actually use that particular module on my Mac, where I installed XScreenSaver :
http://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/
As for your other point, most of us Linux user don't use Windows not out of hate for the product (especially the NT line which is a robust design) but more out of hate for Microsoft's anti-competitive practices in the 90s and early 00s. Of course, the newer generation does not know what Microsoft is capable of to kill an entire industry, as they have not witnessed first hand like us more old timers did.
JForestZ34
macrumors 6502a
On this BSOD issue, on my fathers dell everytime he installs a new program it cause something else not to work.
It would cause the machine to take 10 mins to shut down. Take 20 mins to start up. Be really laggy and so on. He's done clean installs and still the same thing.
Windows machine always have the same problem
James
It would cause the machine to take 10 mins to shut down. Take 20 mins to start up. Be really laggy and so on. He's done clean installs and still the same thing.
Windows machine always have the same problem
James
Low end computers offer low end perfomance. My elitebook kicks my top of the line MBP's ass when it comes to graphics and processing power, and it was $1k less. But hey, macs always have the same problem. 😉
adder7712
macrumors 68000
Then something's really wrong with your dad's Dell. I have Windows on Boot Camp I've never had those kind of issues. The only problems I had on Windows (on my old desktop) stemmed (and me being irresponsible) from malware, not an OS defect.
Oletros
macrumors 603
No, this is false.
and if that computer lasts 20 minutes to shut down or 10 minutes to start up or a clean install doesn't resolve nothing, the problem is not Windows, the problem is that the computer need hardware check.