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Those who wonder why Steve chose Tim to run Apple, you really need to understand that it's not about the customer.

If you understand that Apple is ultimately a business, like any other business and that everything they do is about the STOCKHOLDER and PROFIT for the stockholder then it makes sense.

Stop being hung up on Apple being all about the customer. It's not about us. It's about making loads of money for people who are invested in the business. And Tim Cook is perfect for that.
Your logic is flawed. Serving the customer is how a company like Apple became so successful. So yes, Apple is all about the customer.
 
Your logic is flawed. Serving the customer is how a company like Apple became so successful. So yes, Apple is all about the customer.
I don't think so. You are correct in saying that serving the customer is how a company like Apple became so successful. And Apple does need to continue selling to customers to remain successful.

What Apple doesn't have to do now, is serve the customer. Or as you put it, be all about the customer. Angela Ahrendts is a good example of this. In she came and out went the genius bar. Apple geniuses began to focus more on metrics and sales quotas than actually helping the customer.

That may not be evident in all parts of Apple…yet.
 
But who will replace him? The obvious choice might be Craig but he lacks vision as well. Apple's software might have gotten a lick of paint recently but it's still the same old iOS underneath for better and worse. Phil Schiller would be a shoe in but he suffers from the same problem as the rest of the candidates: they're all too close to retirement.

Apple should being back Tony Fadell.
 
Right but look at how many of Tim's were flops compared to Jobs.

The airpods and watch are legitimately the only things that are exciting. The ipad mini is iterative, while the vision pro is a underwhelming at best, and the homepod is basically despised by 1/2 of the internet due to how bad Siri is.
Three points:
  1. Siri was introduced by Jobs — not Cook. It was innovative for what was essentially pre-modern rules-based AI. Converting such a massive, monolithic platform to two-generations removed LLM-based Gen AI is only easy to armchair software architects. Pinning that on Cook is sketchy.
  2. It’s interesting that Apple Silicon is completely ignored when it is arguably the most consequential innovation in Apple history — just because it was delivered on Cook’s watch. I’m using an M1 Max MacBook Pro that was purchased on launch day and that machine still makes me smile every time I use it. It’s the best personal computer I’ve ever used. Period.
  3. This is the first time I’ve heard that billions of people hate the HomePod and attribute that to Siri. That comment doesn’t even qualify as stretching the truth because there’s zero truth in it.
 
I don’t fully disagree, but… Apple is a victim of its own success - they are no longer that scrappy, risk-it-all, change-the-world company of the past. They are so big that they are under the microscope of customers, shareholders, and now even world leaders and governments. They are almost forced to play it safe. Heck, people criticize placement of menu buttons now! I would advise Tim to create a ‘skunk works’ division with the expertise, passion, creative and freedom to ‘think different again’ and reinvigorate today’s Apple.
 
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Are you referring to hardware or software, and if the latter, specifically WWDC? Because this one was the best in quite a long while. So much genuine improvement to all the platforms and a ton of things for developers (it is for them, not really the lay audience) to make more interesting and capable apps.

Very little empty sparkle, though. Were you hoping for more of last year’s empty promises?
 
I really did lol when I read this. I’d like it to be lighter and cheaper but could never conceive of it being underwhelming. I don’t know what people expected.
It’s not good enough for what I want out of it but man oh man is it not remotely underwhelming. An impressive piece of hardware! Looking forward to an improved version in the coming years that will absolutely join my stall of (serious) toys.
 
Keynote after keynote, they get less and less exciting. Apple no longer dares.

I started using a Mac back in 1993 — I loved it. But by 1995, everyone was declaring Apple dead.
Back then, Apple was run by financial managers with no vision, no creativity, and no interest in pushing boundaries. They focused solely on revenues — and nearly killed the company before Jobs got back.

But now, I feel Apple is heading down a similar path under Tim Cook. He lacks vision. The only boundaries he seems interested in pushing are how much revenue he can squeeze from a product. The number of products that haven’t significantly evolved in the last decade is astonishing.
Even the successful ones, like the Mac Mini, feel like an update from the 25-year-old G4 Cube. iOS 26? another back to the past.

I remember a bold Apple — the one that killed off legacy ports in favor of USB, that declared “we’re going wireless” long before anyone else. The Apple that looked at MP3 players and thought, “We can do better.” The Apple that dared to take on giants like Nokia and BlackBerry and annihilate them.

Tim Cook lacks the qualities that made Steve Jobs great, and while he compensates for some of Steve’s weaknesses, he doesn’t inspire the same spirit of innovation, quality and focus on user experience and satisfaction. Alone, Tim risks changing Apple’s motto from “Think Different” to “Rethink Nothing.”

Thoughts?
Lots of BS here

Tim is great and good for Apple. We need more Tim’s in this world.
 
I don't think so. You are correct in saying that serving the customer is how a company like Apple became so successful. And Apple does need to continue selling to customers to remain successful.

What Apple doesn't have to do now, is serve the customer. Or as you put it, be all about the customer. Angela Ahrendts is a good example of this. In she came and out went the genius bar. Apple geniuses began to focus more on metrics and sales quotas than actually helping the customer.

That may not be evident in all parts of Apple…yet.
Losing the Genius Bar sucked.

Turned the stores for techie hubs with decent experiences to boring high-end retail shops.
 
Really? Here's a list of products under Tim Cook's watch.

2014 iPad Mini (retina)
2015 Apple Watch (Series 1)
2016 AirPods (1st gen)
2018 HomePod
2020 Apple Silicon Macs (M1)
2022 Mac Studio (M1 Ultra)
2023 Vision Pro – Unveiled June 5, 2023 at WWDC;

Not a comprehensive list but impressive nonetheless.

A non-comprehensive list of mostly hardware by Steve Jobs,
1998 iMac G3
1999 iBook
2001 Mac OS X
iPod/iTunes
2006 MacBook / MacBook Pro
2007 iPhone
Apple TV
2008 MacBook Air
2010 iPad

While Steve Job/s list is more revolutionary, its mostly due to the timing of his tenure at Apple, where technology was changing, both in music, and phones. I'm also in no way taking away his insight, or dedication but lets not say Tim Cook lacks vision
The non-hardware component (OS X) on your lists is arguably the single most important element. It laid the foundation for everything Jobs envisioned, beginning with iPod. It's difficult to understate the importance of NeXT.

You've also left out another critical Jobs decision, arguably the most important aspect of the iPad: Apple silicon. Jobs, not Cook, should be credited for that critical first step with A4 in 2010.

On the other hand, I think you've left out Cook's most important legacy, an utterly disruptive, transformative, and still-reverberating decision for the semiconductor industry: Apple's partnership with TSMC begun in 2014, but really forged with A10/A10X Fusion in 2016/2017. As a result, you have rightly (in my opinion) credited the ongoing success of Apple's Mac silicon to Cook, because it's built on that strong relationship with TSMC.
 
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Keynote after keynote, they get less and less exciting. Apple no longer dares.

The PC, tablet and phone markets are basically sorted. Whether its an apple device, google device, microsoft device, etc.

What are you expecting?


Are you whining that Microsoft haven't released anything exciting? Because their last "exciting" product developments were the MS Surface (which is a flop pretty much) and Hololens, which has been discontinued because it flopped. Oh and there was also Microsoft phone that flopped. Windows has basically just gotten worse since Windows 2000; 7 was a high note but XP and 8, 8.1, 10 and 11 are all trash.


Google? Tablets are crap, wearables are crap. Netbooks are crap...


Complaining about them as well?
 
But really we haven't come that far. If we took ideas from today back to 1999 we could reproduce what we have now without too much effort. The storage would be smaller, the screens worse and the battery life worse, but it wouldn't be a whole lot different.

i remember watching the first steps of "VR" on a show called beyond 2000, back in the 90s.

 
Became successful, indeed. Doesn't mean it has professionalised and now it's just your ordinary corp.
How can a company that is The World’s Most Valuable company, with the highest brand loyalty, and highest CSAT be “ordinary?”

A single superlative makes one “unique” not ordinary.

Three superlatives (that are important and demonstrable) puts one in the Highlander universe where “There can be only one.” Most would consider that extraordinary. 😉
 
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I don’t fully disagree, but… Apple is a victim of its own success - they are no longer that scrappy, risk-it-all, change-the-world company of the past. They are so big that they are under the microscope of customers, shareholders, and now even world leaders and governments. They are almost forced to play it safe. Heck, people criticize placement of menu buttons now! I would advise Tim to create a ‘skunk works’ division with the expertise, passion, creative and freedom to ‘think different again’ and reinvigorate today’s Apple.
My guess is that Apple has a skunk works going already. I certainly hope so. Apple would need to keep its skunk works secret to avoid feeding the trolls; just look at how many people here dis on the AVP, a superb piece of new tech yet some visionless folks expect to have it be an instantly successful pet rock.
 
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Keynote after keynote, they get less and less exciting. Apple no longer dares.

I started using a Mac back in 1993 — I loved it. But by 1995, everyone was declaring Apple dead.
Back then, Apple was run by financial managers with no vision, no creativity, and no interest in pushing boundaries. They focused solely on revenues — and nearly killed the company before Jobs got back.

But now, I feel Apple is heading down a similar path under Tim Cook. He lacks vision. The only boundaries he seems interested in pushing are how much revenue he can squeeze from a product. The number of products that haven’t significantly evolved in the last decade is astonishing.
Even the successful ones, like the Mac Mini, feel like an update from the 25-year-old G4 Cube. iOS 26? another back to the past.

I remember a bold Apple — the one that killed off legacy ports in favor of USB, that declared “we’re going wireless” long before anyone else. The Apple that looked at MP3 players and thought, “We can do better.” The Apple that dared to take on giants like Nokia and BlackBerry and annihilate them.

Tim Cook lacks the qualities that made Steve Jobs great, and while he compensates for some of Steve’s weaknesses, he doesn’t inspire the same spirit of innovation, quality and focus on user experience and satisfaction. Alone, Tim risks changing Apple’s motto from “Think Different” to “Rethink Nothing.”

Thoughts?

In Tim’s era we got the AirPods, the Apple Watch, the Apple Pencil, the Vision Pro. In addition to that, they dared to switch to their own silicon. That didn’t come from nothing. They try new stuff, they dare, they make great products.

Issues with Tim are mostly due to developer relationships and being restrictive about many policies, but that has nothing to do with what you’re saying here.
 
Steve Jobs was without question a visionary who bought some great solutions to market.
But he did also make mistakes.
I think he did a fantastic job, but wouldn’t romanticise it too much.

Tim Cook is overseeing Apple through a different era.
Apple still seems to be performing well, and does many fantastic products.
Is Apple perfect, probably not. But it’s almost certain that anyone in charge would take flak and be subject to unrealistic comparisons.

This is a really good answer. The OP’s premise is wrong.
 
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