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WINdoWz and OSX

Here is the deal. As an investor in apple I can tell you this is what could transpire.

Apple right now has a lot of extra cash, this cash will be used to purchase a company called connectix. They have taken the source code and optimised it to run with OSX seamlessly. You will all now have the power of 2. Run whatever game you want, whatevery software that comes available. You got the dream machine. Lust factor of X(ten).

They will not have OSX on windowz (yet)
 
Re: Star Trek

Originally posted by Cisco
I think the Star Trek references are the key here. I'm anticipating some sort of handheld device, presumably a "PDA plus" with enhanced usability/functionality- voice recognition? I suspect that the ipod was partly designed to test the waters in terms of consumer and press reactions to this class of device from Apple.
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I'm sorry guys, but Steve HATED the newton. I can't believe they are going to release a PDA into this dry market!

Ofcourse, that is, unless the new PDA is so fabulous that it will "Blow away" palm and PocketPC..

I think it is more a digital hub device
 
PDA

Its a new PDA.

And the 'lust factor of ten' refers to OS X working properly - at last.
I mean, the GUI on X is so jerky sometimes, I thought I had a fake Mac!

PDA with wireless built in and a 5 gig drive - (like iPod)
OS X hits prime time- (not before time)
Gigahertz across the board except for low end iMac and iBook.

Thats it.

PDA with 5 gig and wireless is a major leap, listen to music, surf the web, all the old Newton stuff as well.
QT movies on the thing, etc.etc.

[Edited by elgruga on 01-05-2002 at 01:40 PM]
 
Re: WINdoWz and OSX

Originally posted by russ192
Here is the deal. As an investor in apple I can tell you this is what could transpire.

Apple right now has a lot of extra cash, this cash will be used to purchase a company called connectix. They have taken the source code and optimised it to run with OSX seamlessly. You will all now have the power of 2. Run whatever game you want, whatevery software that comes available. You got the dream machine. Lust factor of X(ten).

They will not have OSX on windowz (yet)
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Sorry for the double post, but YEAH!
I think they should have some Virtual PC-ish program STANDARD on every Mac. (I don't think they should make OSX for Windows though..) Then all the WINdoWz people will be assured that all their programs will work on the Mac! If you compare the Mac and some junky Dell, and if the Mac can work the PC programs TOO, then who is going to buy the Dell?

I think we are getting some where..
 
Re: WINdoWz and OSX

Originally posted by russ192
Apple right now has a lot of extra cash, this cash will be used to purchase a company called connectix. They have taken the source code and optimised it to run with OSX seamlessly. You will all now have the power of 2. Run whatever game you want, whatevery software that comes available. You got the dream machine. Lust factor of X(ten).
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Hmm. That's a very intresting idea. And I must say it would be brilliant! Let's wait and see... :)
 
lust?

mmaaaayyyybbeee.....by saying lust..they mean they are completely changing the look at least of the imacs..maybe customized cases....or maybe the G5's (pplllleeeaasssee!!!) will be incredibly hott....we'll just see...
 
cable ready macs

I like this idea. Throw away your TV and boom box and replace it with a device that:

- is a computer
- is a cable-ready tv
- plays and records DVDs
- plays and records music
- has a companion device to go portable

It might explain Quicktime TV Channels a bit more....
 
Lust means desire means we will lust after one.

Its a product, not software.

Think hardware. Think sex. Jobs called the Tibook sexy, so this is a theme.

Small isnt usually associated with sexy, so its maybe larger than a PDA.

Then again, the iWalk we all saw on Spymac was not so small, so......



 
Originally posted by nahaliel
DAVE built into OSX would be nice :)
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What for? OS X has UNIX networking. I share files w/linux and windows machines w/no problems.
 
Virtual PC/OS X Hybrid nonsense

Ok, let's see if everyone is on the same page. Apple would buy Connectix, or license VPC, or write their own version, or go back to putting DOS/Windows compatibility cards in all their computers... Now *every* new Apple product will run *every* Windows/x86 application. We'll ignore any difficulties, and just say flatly that they somehow do this.

From that moment on, why would *ANY* developer write *ANY* application specifically for the Mac? They wouldn't. They would write only for Windows, saving themselves TONS of money on porting and duplicating effort.

If this is what you want to see happen, then just put your Macs on eBay right now and go buy that Gateway.

(For historical reference, IBM made this same mistake with OS/2. The got the Windows stuff down pat, and the rhetoric from dozens of software companies became, "We're not going to port it to OS/2, the Windows version works on OS/2 already.")
 
Chicken Lips

like putting lipstick on a chicken
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That's a quote from Bill Gates when he had heard of the Novell/Apple joint project to port Mac OS 7 to Wintel back in 1992. Read this article to see some other interesting quotes such as:
the two companies immediately began working together on a project that came to be called Star Trek, because it would boldly go where no Mac had gone before: the Intel platform.
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Once again, another Star Trek reference similar to the tease from a day or two ago "to go where no PC has gone before".

Finally, this quote is the most exciting:
Free of managerial meddling, the small team not only succeeded in getting the Mac's Finder to run on the PC clones, they also managed to get QuickTime and some of QuickDraw GX working, as well as the "Welcome to Macintosh" startup greeting.
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So this has already been partially completed!!!

Now, in 1997 another article was written in geektimes outlining the consideration that Apple may have taken up the gauntlet once again. Quote this:
In the end, it wasn't technical difficulties that derailed the project. It was internal politics, especially the loss of key backers.
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So, all the internal BS that killed it before and the offensive from Microsoft to force ALL PC's to be shipped with Windoze, are no longer an issue.

A great deal of what makes Mac OS X complete, has already been cross-compiled to Intel, Darwin. What remains is the Cocoa Library (a mechanical effort to rewrite as they've already done that once) and then Aqua itself.

Just a thought.

Andrew
 
How about Mac OS X goes primetime Big (blue) way - IBM Db2, Lotus Notes, .. Also, Sun and Oracle support for OS X as well - OS X becomes the industry standard. plus a whole bunch of OS X based products.. iNewton (yes its not iWalk), iPalm and iEverything runs under OS X..not just Apple products.. does that count as "Full Speed Ahead: Lust Factor Ten" and "To Go Where No PC Has Gone Before" ?
 
1 day

That's amazing!!! How did you find it? Usually the URL on akamai is rather cryptic unguessable...

Andrew
 
I thought iWalk was not a fary tell....i WAS a believer

iWalk, I know everyone is debating this thing, and I used to be astonished by how much time people put in to invesgate this thing, but now I caught the bug, and I noticed something...
This is from SpyMac.com:
"...German voices in the background and a seemingly deliberately-planted (foreign) electrical socket makes the origin questionable.. and the source safe..."

Wait a min! German voices in the background? What a counicedence (I cant spell, thats what spell check is for, right!?) It just so happens that, in a footnote on spymac.com, it says that they are being hosted on a, get this, GERMAN server that is owned by a GERMAN friend. Could it be that iWalk was faked in Germany? I Think so...
 
that's for me to know and you to find out...

Well, actually, it was pure guess work!

But as I say, I reckon the interesting bit is entirely unguessable, you'd have to guess the actual words used in the graphic and by then you'd know what was coming anyhow!

I'm still trying though...
 
Tech TV just let something out of the bag

Just this minute I was watching Tech TV and they had a promo spot
"See Macworld live on Tech TV-Is there a G5?, the new imac, Steve Jobs ends the rumors. Plus we'll show you the new home entertainment appliance that's so secret we can't show you until then. Watch it Live, Monday starting at 9 on Tech TV"

"the new home entertainment appliance" hmmm........
 
OSX to Intel

I think, after reading the above articles, and seeing the last two "proclamations" from Apple I think the big thing is OS X on Intel.

"To Boldly go where no PC has gone before"--refers to the the box makers. One place they haven't been is OS X land

"Full speed ahead": Lust factor 10"--refers to, I think, OS X.

I think this would be a great idea.
 
Newton -> iWalk please!!

Despite all the rumors, and even in light of the TechTV home entertainment reference, I would REALLY love to have an iWalk. My old MP100 is getting a little long in the tooth at 9 years old... :)

Now, having said that, consider this. The latest trend in home entertainment are devices that allow quick and easy recording of TV shows (a la Tivo and Ultimate TV). The other latest trend is moving from rear projection TV to front projection TV.

It's actually cheaper to buy the Sony VPL-CS4 (about $1700) at 1000 ANSI Lumens (fairly bright even at 12.5' diagonal) than to get a rear projection TV (about $4000) that is capable of the same "screen size".

Could Apple be introducing new hardware considering they really are a hardware company?! Perhaps they will combine a Tivo-like device and a projector into one device?!?!

I'm currently pricing out a front projection TV to replace my ailing 36" TV. Perhaps I'll wait until after Monday before I make any rash decisions... :)

Andrew
 
A dose of their own medicine

I think the ideal of OS X on Intel boxes is sexy. It beats MS at their own game and if Apple can get other retailers like Dell and Gateway to offer OS X as an alternative to Windows XP, now that MS can't enforce a lockup (thanks DOJ), they could make a strong offensive for market share.

Imagine if Apple took just 5% of the intel user base from Windows. It would almost double Apple's installed user base!
 
Re: A dose of their own medicine

Originally posted by amichalo
I think the ideal of OS X on Intel boxes is sexy. It beats MS at their own game and if Apple can get other retailers like Dell and Gateway to offer OS X as an alternative to Windows XP, now that MS can't enforce a lockup (thanks DOJ), they could make a strong offensive for market share.

Imagine if Apple took just 5% of the intel user base from Windows. It would almost double Apple's installed user base!
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Apple has done things like this before that cannabalized their hardware sales. remember the mac clones? they licensed out their hardware architecture in an attempt to lower prices on Mac compatibles (ala IBM PC) and what ended happening was it killed their hardware sales. This would do exactly the same thing. Also, does apple really want to deal with the driver compatibility issues with 3rd party hardware? I think not.
 
Why would someone bother?

installing OS X on an Wintel comp?

1. You would have to rebuy all your software...
2. Classic wouldn't work, or it would work but at the speed of a 2mhz PPC chip...
3. Couldn't use iMovie caus you don't have Firewire ports.
4. Still couldn't use an iPod... :(

And if apple was dumb enough to do this, it would canabalize their hardware sales and make them forced to support so many different configurations!
 
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