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By huge, you mean copy everything that you mentioned that Android already has. All of that was on Android 1.0 in a way. Meaning, the whole Android ecosystem was open sourced. Interchangeable kb's, apps extending apps, widgets, quick replies, all are on Android right now.

Apple may like to perfect certain technologies, but at least Steve Jobs would make sure to be market first while perfecting his technolgies.

It was rare for apple to be to the market first even with jobs. Apple is so successful because they make great products and fix the mistakes that others made.
 
Those who kept saying this is a "software" event must have never watched any of the previous WWDC keynotes. This is in fact the ONLY one without a hardware announcement, and back in Jobs days hardware made up half of the time.

Do you honestly think they'd want to talk about tweaking colour saturation of a photo, if they had an iPhone or an iWatch to talk about? Under Cook, things are just not happening fast enough. He doesn't have the audacity, the charisma and the craziness of Jobs to challenge his team with impossible deadlines. I'm not saying Cook is not a good leader. None of us could do what he does. But the magic of Apple is gone with Steve. When Steve announces something, you see that genuine proudness - an almost (deservedly) smug feeling - which is only there if you had tremendous passion and has gone to impossible length. Only when you had focused on something so intensively - as if you life depended on it, as if it is your own child, you make the impossible possible.

With Cook, you won't have that intensity. He is not a product person. He spends a lot of his time meeting officials in China and working on green initiatives, and on just about everything else a company of Apple's size should worry about. With Jobs, you had this feeling that he'd shut off all the ********, wake you up at 3am, bug you every minute with a call, until that important product is ready and that impossible deadline is met. If Jobs made Apple a "startup" fortune 100, Cook is undoing it by making Apple just like everyone else.

Couldn't agree more. Two thumbs up, you hit the nail. :apple:
 
By huge, you mean copy everything that you mentioned that Android already has. All of that was on Android 1.0 in a way. Meaning, the whole Android ecosystem was open sourced. Interchangeable kb's, apps extending apps, widgets, quick replies, all are on Android right now.

Apple may like to perfect certain technologies, but at least Steve Jobs would make sure to be market first while perfecting his technolgies.

Not everything from Android. Android gets to keep the malware.
 
I'd like this MacBook to last a while. 32 megs of memory, i7 with 8mb, Nvidia with 8GB. Something that will hold up to the next CSX and beyond. I'm sure since Yosemite is coming out in the Fall they're likely planning something that they can ship with the new OS but like always not even a hint.

So I repeat myself: upgrade it with what?

Since there will not be a significant processor upgrade until Broadwell, the next round of announced Mac hardware should wait until Broadwell, AMD's latest and greatest mobile processors and Thunderbolt 2 (maybe 3) can be implemented.
 
I agree.

I have been waiting for some kind of revolutionary announcement from Cook for a while but every time he goes up on the podium, it's been a lot of nice incremental steps with nothing amazing.

I don't know I appreciate Tim and Steve's style. Tim listens to people. Steve could be a bit bull headed and that bull headedness ultimately led to his untimely death.
 
By huge, you mean copy everything that you mentioned that Android already has. All of that was on Android 1.0 in a way. Meaning, the whole Android ecosystem was open sourced. Interchangeable kb's, apps extending apps, widgets, quick replies, all are on Android right now.

Apple may like to perfect certain technologies, but at least Steve Jobs would make sure to be market first while perfecting his technolgies.

I'll say it again...its not about copying features, it's about pulling android users to Apple. :apple:
 
In iOS 7 when you edit a picture it saves that revised version. And if go back into that revised picture there's an option to revert back to the original. I guessing that feature will be the same in iOS 8.

Thanks. I always save the original or any photo and make changes, but want to be able to go back always
 
Those who kept saying this is a "software" event must have never watched any of the previous WWDC keynotes. This is in fact the ONLY one without a hardware announcement, and back in Jobs days hardware made up half of the time.

Do you honestly think they'd want to talk about tweaking colour saturation of a photo, if they had an iPhone or an iWatch to talk about? Under Cook, things are just not happening fast enough. He doesn't have the audacity, the charisma and the craziness of Jobs to challenge his team with impossible deadlines. I'm not saying Cook is not a good leader. None of us could do what he does. But the magic of Apple is gone with Steve. When Steve announces something, you see that genuine proudness - an almost (deservedly) smug feeling - which is only there if you had tremendous passion and has gone to impossible length. Only when you had focused on something so intensively - as if you life depended on it, as if it is your own child, you make the impossible possible.

With Cook, you won't have that intensity. He is not a product person. He spends a lot of his time meeting officials in China and working on green initiatives, and on just about everything else a company of Apple's size should worry about. With Jobs, you had this feeling that he'd shut off all the ********, wake you up at 3am, bug you every minute with a call, until that important product is ready and that impossible deadline is met. If Jobs made Apple a "startup" fortune 100, Cook is undoing it by making Apple just like everyone else.

i also blame current apple leaders for not addressing the gpu-related kernel panics of my mid-2010 MBP. they had a quality exchange program for this model MBP but had a window of dec 2013. i only noticed my MBP having this issue in April of 2014. Apple wants $310 to replace logic board which I don't have. I am also not sure if it is a hardware issue at all. For example, I am not getting glitches or artifacts on the screen that would obviously point to a bad or dying dGPU. I just get random KP's (maybe once every 2 weeks) and instant KP's when using apps such as FCP X, Motion 5, Garageband, etc. But, my MBP is fine for the most part doing casual things. I even saw the live stream of the event earlier today on my MBP.

If Steve Jobs was alive, he would have made Apple PR guy state the exact number of MBP's affected and not just an ambiguous statement of "a small number of MBP's manufactured btwn April 2010 and Feb 2011 are affected."

And/or, if it is a software issue, Steve Jobs would have made sure Apple release a fix for it by now.

I am willing to bet that 10.10 will not support MBP's with the GT330m dGPU. if this is true, it's a software issue.
 
Couldn't agree more. Two thumbs up, you hit the nail. :apple:

You've got to let go off that notion that Apple is Steve, Steve is gone but that doesn't mean Apple is dead. I think Apple made clear that it's still an innovating company: iOS8 that works seemlessly together with OS X (responding to texts with Mac is imo awesome).

You've got to accept that Tim is a new leader that thrives a new strategy. Hell yeah I was hoping for new hardware but they've spent their time well by announcing great features for both iOS and OS X.

Hold in mind that if they have to announce new hardware the next keynote, they will have more time to do that so probably more hardware? Be patient and have some respect. Imo Cook did a great job, it could have been worse.
 
Hmm, you must be easily "confused" :confused: or have a bad memory. I'm personally excited to find out more about what's in store for Mac OS X and iOS, but it wasn't unreasonable for him to think we might have seen new hardware at WWDC.

Here are a couple links:

From 2012: WWDC 2012: Apple announces new MacBook Pro, starting at $2199

From 2013: Apple introduces new MacBook Air models at WWDC 2013

You're right, it's not unreasonable for anyone to think there was going to be hardware announcements. I actually thought iPhone 6 would've been announced but Apple put in two hours of a very fulfilling keynote and there should be very little disappointed people. I mean, after the keynote it is unreasonable to expect them to go longer than 2 hours adding products at the end. People need to remember that great software needs to come first. Getting a retina macbook air or whatever is unnecessary if the software experience sucks.
I think people tend to forget that Apple is made up of humans. Craig F basically did a one-man show today and he did it very seamlessly. How many other people could do that? I know I couldn't.
 
I'd like this MacBook to last a while. 32 megs of memory, i7 with 8mb, Nvidia with 8GB. Something that will hold up to the next CSX and beyond. I'm sure since Yosemite is coming out in the Fall they're likely planning something that they can ship with the new OS but like always not even a hint.

A whole 32MB? :-0
 
TWhen Steve announces something, you see that genuine proudness - an almost (deservedly) smug feeling - which is only there if you had tremendous passion and has gone to impossible length. Only when you had focused on something so intensively - as if you life depended on it, as if it is your own child, you make the impossible possible.

If Jobs made Apple a "startup" fortune 100, Cook is undoing it by making Apple just like everyone else.

This.
 
Ugh. The translucence. Why?

Because Windows 7 has it in the Aero Glass desktop style. All that translucency looks just like Win 7 did/does. Copy cat Apple.

And what is with those flat icons in the dock. I like my reflective shiny dock. What is it with their obsession with "flat". People buy Retina displays to display high resolution high-color images. Not these plain looking, two-three color icons. UGLY!!!
 
Already downloading OS X Yosemite and iOS 8. Wooohooo!

2 hours to go before Yosemite download is complete. It's a tad bit bulky though... 5.09 GB.
 
I'll say it again...its not about copying features, it's about pulling android users to Apple. :apple:

I like extensions. I like keyboard options. I like widgets. But I still can't reply to an email with an attachment. Where is my file system access? Why couldn't they just open up iCloud Drive access to Mail? That would be good enough.
 
I don't know I appreciate Tim and Steve's style. Tim listens to people. Steve could be a bit bull headed and that bull headedness ultimately led to his untimely death.


We are not evaluating friends here.

Under Steve Jobs, apple came up with the iMacs, MBP, iPhone, iPad etc...
I will take that over the Cook listening to people.
 
i also blame current apple leaders for not addressing the gpu-related kernel panics of my mid-2010 MBP. they had a quality exchange program for this model MBP but had a window of dec 2013. i only noticed my MBP having this issue in April of 2014. Apple wants $310 to replace logic board which I don't have. I am also not sure if it is a hardware issue at all. For example, I am not getting glitches or artifacts on the screen that would obviously point to a bad or dying dGPU. I just get random KP's (maybe once every 2 weeks) and instant KP's when using apps such as FCP X, Motion 5, Garageband, etc. But, my MBP is fine for the most part doing casual things. I even saw the live stream of the event earlier today on my MBP.

If Steve Jobs was alive, he would have made Apple PR guy state the exact number of MBP's affected and not just an ambiguous statement of "a small number of MBP's manufactured btwn April 2010 and Feb 2011 are affected."

And/or, if it is a software issue, Steve Jobs would have made sure Apple release a fix for it by now.

I am willing to bet that 10.10 will not support MBP's with the GT330m dGPU. if this is true, it's a software issue.

You live in a dream world where Steve Jobs was a customer is always right kind of person. He was the kind of person that was sure to release as much information as possible about a problem to the customer. Get real.

I am sorry you are having trouble. I had a 2010 MBP that was affected and they fixed it without an issue. Have you tried to call in and get someone to authroize the repair. Geniuses are not always that smart...
 
I REALLY enjoyed that keynote even tho there was no hardware :D the only thing i was expecting to see more of was the HealthBook app, i'm wondering if we will see more of it when the iPhone 6 is released :confused:

Loved the OSX features and new design, being able to call and txt without having to pick up my iPhone is a feature i NEVER even thought about :eek: I think Apple have done a great job with all the features announced.

Is it just me or does it seem like Apple are opening up a little bit more? allowing third parties to have access to the keyboard is one example. Widgets being another.
 
We are not evaluating friends here.

Under Steve Jobs, apple came up with the iMacs, MBP, iPhone, iPad etc...
I will take that over the Cook listening to people.


How far apart were all those? Steve has only been gone a few years. What exactly do you expect?
 
When Jobs introduced the first iPhone. That kind of keynote has never been achieved ever since.

Well color me blind because that was a brand new product with revolutionary features. Pretty easy to get excited over that. Am I wrong? Tim Cook did major upgrades to an EXISTING OS X and iOS that Jobs had not come close to doing in years. I have wanted these updates to OS X and Jobs just wouldn't do it. And honestly, there's never been an ALL-SOFTWARE keynote that Jobs has done with this much awesomeness.
 
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