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Relax bro. It is quite common for them to release hardware at WWDC.

New hardware is also very much needed.

I know that. I've been an Apple customer for over 15 years. But, just ask yourself, what would be the point of releasing hardware at a software developer conference? And when Apple was doing the MacWorld conferences they weren't releasing much hardware at WWDC. Because the releasing new hardware at MacWorld..You might've seen one product like a Mac desktop announced at WWDC.

Also the show lasted two hours. Did you really expect them to keep going on for a couple more hours releasing the hardware? They're only humans. Interesting. Microsoft announces ONE product this year and their customers aren't complaining.
 
Hardware? This is a software developer show! Any hardware will be incidental and secondary at best. New hardware is shown at shows specifically held for that purpose.

Really??? The Macbook Air was introduced at last year's WWDC and there have been many other hardware introductions at WWDC events in previous years as well. :roll eyes:

Funny how your sig says you've been an Apple fanboy since '77...:rolleyes:
 
Worst part of any Apple announcement is the stupid complaining immediately afterwards.

What Apple released for the Developers today is going to make the end user experience so much more enjoyable than it is now. And it's a damn good experience as is.

Only so much can be done in 365 days. These announcements are another huge step forward in the Apple ecosystem. I for one am excited to see how developers use these new tools going forward.

What the bulk of complainers fail to realize is the privacy/security/safety standards built into iOS/Mac OS are carefully considered/crafted. This is not an open platform where everything goes.
 
Today was one of my favorite WWDC keynotes I've seen in years. The integration between the new OSes is finally getting to a point that will (likely) be seamless. As for no new hardware, that's fine! Let WWDC be about software. It just means we get to watch another press conference in a few months. :)

And let's talk about Craig Federighi. The guy did an awesome job. I just saw an article http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2014/06/02/craig-federighi-apple/9879495/ that nails it, so I'll stop rambling before this becomes a TLDR comment.
 
two observations about the new features:

1. for iCloud Drive/Photos, only the first 5GB are free. Then it's $12/year for 20GB and $48/year for 200GB. With it backing up all photos and videos, I can see needed at least 20GB and possibly more than that. I would hope they'd raise the free space to at least 10GB. With iCloud backup already eating up a share of the 5GB, doesn't leave that much space for photos/videos/documents. I hope there is a way to customize how much you want to back up (ex. the last 1000 photos and no videos, etc.)

2. for continuity, seems like it's dependent on having your phone have the hotspot feature enabled. i kept thinking this is the hook that they're going to use for the iWatch as well. problem is, I'm not on one of the new (expensive) verizon plans which include a personal hotspot. does that mean that I won't be able to take advantage of continuity? and more importantly, does that make the iWatch much less usable (or worse yet, useless)?
 
Worst part of any Apple announcement is the stupid complaining immediately afterwards.

What Apple released for the Developers today is going to make the end user experience so much more enjoyable than it is now. And it's a damn good experience as is.

Only so much can be done in 365 days. These announcements are another huge step forward in the Apple ecosystem. I for one am excited to see how developers use these new tools going forward.

What the bulk of complainers fail to realize is the privacy/security/safety standards built into iOS/Mac OS are carefully considered/crafted. This is not an open platform where everything goes.



i just cant imagine how can they pull off so many things in just last 12 months. They have totally given everything to devs. IMO, indirectly this is going to give iOS 8 a lot more than what normally any major OS update gives.
 
I know this is WWDC and it's not a circus show either... But it seems Apple just steal all the apps that are getting popular or are number ones right now and make a default version for OS X 10.10 and iOS8. This is what I saw:

1) whatsapp
2) dropbox
3) alfred / launchbar
4) google docs collaboration
5) android notification enhances
6) MS metro ui revamped.

Did u?
 
The most exciting things were Swift and Continuity. There was nothing really bad this year, which was nice. Could have been more good things, but they covered a lot and we'll see what under-the-hood improvements there are in OS X over the next few months, and of course iOS 8 will get another big show-off when the new iPhones/iPads are released in the fall.

The exciting news was really for developers, which means the developers are going to do some exciting things for users. In fact, I can't really remember any time we had a WWDC keynote that was so developer focused. Even a lot of the end-user stuff like iCloud drive and widgets was actually really for the developers.
 
Oh, I had no idea verbs could become outdated. Guess I should've said "Da FUGH, today's keynote was the Shizz, know what I'm sayin'...." :rolleyes:

You're right. I was more referring to the word "awesome" being mentioned in "almost" every single line at the presentation. It's been used so many times that the message tend to become hollow.

But maybe it's because I'm Dutch, I tend to skip the religious kind of praising stuff and silliness and get to the point to things that does matters.
 
i thought the stab at android was of poor taste. as much as it's known that steve jobs hated android, i don't think steve jobs would have spent that much time bashing it.

i'm not excited about 10.10. My MBP is also PITA. I'm surprise that 10.10 even supports GT330m MBP's when these MBP's have GPU-related Kernel Panics. I was afraid that 10.10 wouldn't support it and also hoping it wouldn't support it. I basically wanna hate Apple.

PS--With apple not supporting my MBP, i would not need to upgrade to 10.10 and probably continue experiencing KP's!!!!!!!!!

PSS--by Apple going to 10.10 in the Fall, it also means or seems like they're skipping all the 10.9.x updates that might be the only hope for my GPU-related Kernel Panicking piece of **** $2500 laptop plus unusable $700 worth of apple pro apps.
 
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I know that. I've been an Apple customer for over 15 years. But, just ask yourself, what would be the point of releasing hardware at a software developer conference? And when Apple was doing the MacWorld conferences they weren't releasing much hardware at WWDC. Because the releasing new hardware at MacWorld..You might've seen one product like a Mac desktop announced at WWDC.

Also the show lasted two hours. Did you really expect them to keep going on for a couple more hours releasing the hardware? They're only humans. Interesting. Microsoft announces ONE product this year and their customers aren't complaining.

1. Apple pulled out of MacWord
2.
WWDC 2010 - iphone 4
WWDC 2012 - MBA and rMBP
WWDC 2013 Mac Pro, MB air, AirPort extreme, AirPort Time Capsule

that is why people were hoping for something, given 2011 was the last time recently we got no hardware at a WWDC

3. Microsoft is a software company, Apple is a Hardware company, loot at the microsoft Roadmap to see all the updated they have scheduled for 2014. Microsoft users do not expect hardware from microsoft. Apple users expect hardware from Apple.
 
Really??? The Macbook Air was introduced at last year's WWDC and there have been many other hardware introductions at WWDC events in previous years as well. :roll eyes:

Funny how your sig says you've been an Apple fanboy since '77...:rolleyes:

You mean like the iPhone4 being announced in 2010?

People love to moan, you always get them moaning that it's a software conference so why would Apple release hardware, yet they do (not always though)

They miss the point that it's a DEVELOPERS conference (yes guys, that's what the D stands for in WWDC) and you know what, sometimes people develop against not just new software, but new hardware as well...
 
I know this is WWDC and it's not a circus show either... But it seems Apple just steal all the apps that are getting popular or are number ones right now and make a default version for OS X 10.10 and iOS8. This is what I saw:

1) whatsapp
2) dropbox
3) alfred / launchbar
4) google docs collaboration
5) android notification enhances
6) MS metro ui revamped.

Did u?

The only difference now is that Apple can no longer be righteous about leading the competition like they once did and claim they innovated everything. As you pointed out, they are guilty of "borrowing" others idea like everyone else in the industry.

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You mean like the iPhone4 being announced in 2010?

People love to moan, you always get them moaning that it's a software conference so why would Apple release hardware, yet they do (not always though)

They miss the point that it's a DEVELOPERS conference (yes guys, that's what the D stands for in WWDC) and you know what, sometimes people develop against not just new software, but new hardware as well...

Congratulations, your know what WWDC stands for.

Though in the last few years, some major Apple products were launched at a developer conference.

WWDC 2010 - iphone 4
WWDC 2012 - MBA and rMBP
WWDC 2013 Mac Pro, MB air, AirPort extreme, AirPort Time Capsule

Maybe that is WHY people were expecting something?? Just saying....
 
Is this the perfect time to start programming? I still don't know what I want to do with my life. :eek:

Honestly if anything its going to make the app store more crowded and harder to make sales in but at the same time taking a peek at the lang it does seem pretty easy to pickup.
 
Congratulations, your know what WWDC stands for.

Though in the last few years, some major Apple products were launched at a developer conference.

WWDC 2010 - iphone 4
WWDC 2012 - MBA and rMBP
WWDC 2013 Mac Pro, MB air, AirPort extreme, AirPort Time Capsule

Maybe that is WHY people were expecting something?? Just saying....

Not sure why you repeated yourself and aimed that post at me, considering I'm agreeing with you?
 
Then why are you here?

ive been asking myself a lot that, i guess its living with the dwindling hope that apple will return to standard it was at when i switched from PC to Mac, but as time progresses Apple is getting more and more like Microsoft every release, locked down, not listening to its users, adding features no one wants at the expensive of features people use and are happy with.

i now feel like they are changing stuff, just to change stuff, to drive sales rather than any innovation or useful features.

Mac OSX seems to be stuck in the old Windows "coat of paint" upgrade cycle rather than a true evolution of the OS now, i guess there really is nothing "new" anymore, and all we have to look forward too is a change of skin and de-activation of features every year or two.

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The complainers constantly what something different, not necessarily better. Unfortunately, Apple needs to keep changing the looks or people won't believe they have something new and improved. I have to agree with you in the 'slimmer and lighter' fiasco. I'll take performance over thinner and lighter any day.

Especially in the iPhone, Double the Battery size, double the thickness, and give me a phone that lasts from a 6AM undocking to a 11pm-12pm re-docking for charge, since the iPhone one, which was fine on battery life due to having no 3G to suck the power, i have been unable to carry just the iPhone around with me, the 3G, 4, and 5 all run out of charge between one and three in the afternoon, so i have to carry a battery pack with me, a charging cable, and remember to hook them up over my lunch hour..

Not at all an intelligent, elegant solution, but adding 50% to the depth of the phone to double the battery life would be.
 
More like August/September.

Oh, right. I seem to remember some iPod releases, and a few iMac releases over the years in October, but yeah, August for the new iPhone hopefully... My 5 battery isn't running that long anymore. Daddy needs a new iPhone!

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Especially in the iPhone, Double the Battery size, double the thickness, and give me a phone that lasts from a 6AM undocking to a 11pm-12pm re-docking for charge, since the iPhone one, which was fine on battery life due to having no 3G to suck the power, i have been unable to carry just the iPhone around with me, the 3G, 4, and 5 all run out of charge between one and three in the afternoon, so i have to carry a battery pack with me, a charging cable, and remember to hook them up over my lunch hour..

Not at all an intelligent, elegant solution, but adding 50% to the depth of the phone to double the battery life would be.

Wow, what's running on your iPhone? I was getting Exchange emails, and it sucked the battery dry, but stopped doing that and it went back to lasting nearly 3 or 4 days. Yeah, having a longer lasting battery, for me, trumps thinness, and sexiness... I mean, thin might be sexy, but it's not for the long haul...
 
Im gutted they never said anything about the 'hobby they call it apple tv'

We need a app store!
 
1. Apple pulled out of MacWord
2.
WWDC 2010 - iphone 4
WWDC 2012 - MBA and rMBP
WWDC 2013 Mac Pro, MB air, AirPort extreme, AirPort Time Capsule

that is why people were hoping for something, given 2011 was the last time recently we got no hardware at a WWDC

3. Microsoft is a software company, Apple is a Hardware company, loot at the microsoft Roadmap to see all the updated they have scheduled for 2014. Microsoft users do not expect hardware from microsoft. Apple use rs expect hardware from Apple.

SOME Apple users expect hardware announcements at a software developer conference. And you only went back to 2010. Were they releasing hardware at every developer conference for the past 25 years?

Also what does hardware announcements do for software developers, seriously? And don't misunderstand me, I know where you're getting at but my problem is people here get too ahead of themselves and expect a rock concert show from Apple complete with all sorts of fun toys, especially when the time isn't necessarily appropriate such as WWDC. Yesterday's conference is the way WWDC SHOULD be, about software, furthermore it was very much needed and very fulfilling so people need to stop complaining and look at the show for what it's truly about still the end of the day, software. And while it's not necessarily out of place for some people here to assume hardware would've been announced based on recent history, it's their own fault for over-hyping themselves from believing "rumors" because Apple never promised hardware at this WWDC.
 
SOME Apple users expect hardware announcements at a software developer conference. And you only went back to 2010. Were they releasing hardware at every developer conference for the past 25 years?

Also what does hardware announcements do for software developers, seriously? And don't misunderstand me, I know where you're getting at but my problem is people here get too ahead of themselves and expect a rock concert show from Apple complete with all sorts of fun toys, especially when the time isn't necessarily appropriate such as WWDC. Yesterday's conference is the way WWDC SHOULD be, about software, furthermore it was very much needed and very fulfilling so people need to stop complaining and look at the show for what it's truly about still the end of the day, software. And while it's not necessarily out of place for some people here to assume hardware would've been announced based on recent history, it's their own fault for over-hyping themselves from believing "rumors" because Apple never promised hardware at this WWDC.

Apple pulled out of MacWorld in 2009. So from 2010 there is a trend of them announcing hardware at WWDC, given there were no longer going to be announcing hardware at MacWorld.

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oh please. That was a typo. I don't need English lessons for an American.

Careful, he might correct your reply :)
 
oh please. That was a typo. I don't need English lessons for an American.

To be honest about it, I don't think many americans will agree that people from the UK speak "better" english. And if you're going to reply with an off-color remark about americans make sure you're not posting more typos. ;)

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Apple pulled out of MacWorld in 2009. So from 2010 there is a trend of them announcing hardware at WWDC, given there were no longer going to be announcing hardware at MacWorld.

You still didn't answer my question. All good. I got your answer now. ;)
 
To be honest about it, I don't think many americans will agree that people from the UK speak "better" english. And if you're going to reply with an off-color remark about americans make sure you're not posting more typos. ;)

Weird thing is that 100% said "from". I read it twice as to not put my foot in my mouth :D
 
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