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Fully Functional iPhone 7 Lightning EarPods Shown Off in New Video
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Nice bit of dodgy logic there. "Apple removed X and it wasn't a problem => therefore removing Y isn't a problem - QED".
1.4MB floppies were already becoming useless when they were dropped (and had been optional extras in Powerbooks for some time) and the alternatives were head-and-shoulders better. By the time optical drives went, people like me were already choosing to rip the superdrives out of their MacBooks to fit in extra HD drives. You certainly didn't need them "on the road" - a USB drive in a cupboard at home was fine and worked on all of your computers - PC or Mac.
It's not so clear that the 3.5mm jack is that obsolete yet. Given the choice, I'd use wireless - but 3.5mm is a useful fallback. The main reason I use the jack is not for headphones, but to plug into a HiFi - in which case, not being able to charge at the same time is a pain. I've got some nice full-size Bluetooth headphones - with an optional 3.5mm cable for when the charge runs out & I've got various cheap'n'cheerful earbuds secreted at home, at work, in bags should I forget the decent ones. The biggest pain is that I also have non-Apple devices.
(NB: I think its now OK to use Bluetooth on planes - apparently wireless devices will no longer make planes fall out of the sky, now that airlines have latched on to the possibility of selling WiFi - but do all cabin staff agree on this point?)
OK - in perspective - carrying a lightning-to-3.5mm dongle is not going to break your back and solves all your issues. OK, you can probably contrive not to charge & listen at the same time - and, lets face it, if you think you can hear the difference between Bluetooth and direct analogue, I have some $500-per-yard speaker cable to sell you... No, the problem is that the iPhone 7 doesn't sound as if is going to have any compelling features other than this minor downgrade.
The 3.5mm jack is a possible point of failure - lightning is more mechanically robust - and that's about it.
Please understand this is not an Apple video and the earbuds you see are not Lightening earbuds.
Wrong.
You obviously know nothing about digital vs. analog, lossless audio, 24-bit audio, etc.
YOU keep thinking that your $400 pair of analog headphones weren't a scam.
Although I advocate for bluetooth earphones bundled with the iPhone (I'd find it more correct from Apple as they would be compatible with every device with bluetooth) for my use case I prefer a wired version of EarPods.
I use them for making calls and I like the mic to be close to my mouth. During the call I often change the volume so a physical button in a convenient place is more than welcome.
Anyway I won't buy iPhone 7 so I'll have one more year with my 6s and the 3.5 jack so I'm not really concerned now
I use them for making calls and I like the mic to be close to my mouth. During the call I often change the volume so a physical button in a convenient place is more than welcome.
Anyway I won't buy iPhone 7 so I'll have one more year with my 6s and the 3.5 jack so I'm not really concerned now
So many will need a break out cable for this just like they need a break out cable for the Macbook. There must be more than a few at Apple questioning this direction.
Vinyl shipped 17MM units in 2015 vs over 2BB digital downloads. That's not touching on streaming or on non-vinyl legacy physical purchases. There will always be audiophiles who go to niche products and technologies to squeeze out a marginal return in their listening experience. More power to them, they have passion and enjoy it, that's great. They represent a small fraction of a percent of the total audience though and we'll fine that outside of enthusiast circles (such as ourselves) the world will use the lightning earbuds, their existing bluetooth devices, buy new, or be satisfied with the adapter. There won't be a massive uprising in the streets or a huge exodus from Apple over this, we will move on.
I don't understand the value in this. You still need a DAC either inside the phone through a minijack, or inline after the digital lighting out.
Or am I misunderstanding that Apple will place analog signals somewhere in the Lightning connector based on accessory type?
Or am I misunderstanding that Apple will place analog signals somewhere in the Lightning connector based on accessory type?
I will give Apple credit for being able to trick clueless suckers into believing lightning headphones make compressed or streamed MP3s magically sound better.
I know that the entire forum is waiting on my opinion, but if this is the case I will be skipping this.
I am a heavy user of the earbuds, both apple and non apple. I am not really interested in great quality but I want availability and low prices for music. I use Apple's earbuds, my kids use their stuff on my phone when needed, I leave them around etc.
Last week I forgot my earbuds at home, and I want to listen to radio shows or even some music during the day. Choice: don't listen to anything or buy $4 earbuds so that I can listen to SOMETHING, although not at a great price. I got the $4 earbuds, you know they're compatible. This would've been IMPOSSIBLE with the (alleged) iPhone 7. Nope, I can't.
And removing the jack is far more different than removing the floppy drive.
I am a heavy user of the earbuds, both apple and non apple. I am not really interested in great quality but I want availability and low prices for music. I use Apple's earbuds, my kids use their stuff on my phone when needed, I leave them around etc.
Last week I forgot my earbuds at home, and I want to listen to radio shows or even some music during the day. Choice: don't listen to anything or buy $4 earbuds so that I can listen to SOMETHING, although not at a great price. I got the $4 earbuds, you know they're compatible. This would've been IMPOSSIBLE with the (alleged) iPhone 7. Nope, I can't.
And removing the jack is far more different than removing the floppy drive.
It counters the cult like devotion of the "thank you sir may I have another" Apple zealots who will blindly defend Apple.
Surely your not speaking for all ears, as the EarPods in the box have suited me just fine and plenty of others.
Is that a 6s plus with a lightning adapter plugged in in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?
Yes. I would be afraid of breaking it and phones these days are quite big for front pockets...
Yeah...this is why this change will suck. Too much hardware needs to go in that little adapter, meaning you take an already insanely tall phone and add an inch to the bottom for your headphones. It is fine for over or on-ear designs, but for buds the plugs are going to be just as inconvenient.
They're doing on purpose to avoid a riot (or worse: laughter) during the keynote.
That maybe true but it doesn't mitigate the fact that Apple have been wrong multiple times about product trends. So despite what their research may say to the contrary losing a regular mainstream jack and forcing people to buy new or use more expensive products may have a detrimental effect.
Of course if they pack in some awesome Bluetooth phones that would help quite a bit.
Actually such a brilliant idea! If companies like Apple don't dear making a move to distance themselves from an ancient technology, the world would be stuck on the past!! All this crying about removed 3.5mm audio jack would seem very laughable to read in the next year or 2. You would agree that reading people's complain about removed floppy disc would be laughable, wouldn't you? You may say the time is not right? I think it is the perfect time. I say go for it Apple, just do it.