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This is why I await a “killer app” despite much negativity around the concept (on this site and elsewhere). I see what’s possible with it! But nobody, including Apple, is offering anything other than “more of the same? MUCH MORE OF THE SAME!” While adding discomfort and isolation to the mix. No wonder most who wax poetic are focused on gaming or TV (shows, movies, sports, etc). And it does those things, probably quite well. I require more, however. And I have faith that Apple will find it, assuming it does well enough in the market that Apple continues to invest in it.
 
How’s the field of view? I work from home and find myself quite bored and uninterested in my work environment being that I live in Wisconsin and am more or less stuck inside for half the year unless I want to bundle up with multiple layers and it’s still cold as heck.

My thought was using it for the environments so I can work in a nice warm setting and maybe trick my brain lol. I read the FOV is low to average, but how well does your brain get tricked into feeling like you’re there?? Thanks!
Interesting thought. Could it become a recognized therapy for SAD? If so, would it be HSA eligible? Or covered by health insurance? (I think I know the answer to that one, lol)

so many questions.
 
And I have faith that Apple will find it, assuming it does well enough in the market that Apple continues to invest in it.

This is where we part ways I think

Nothing about Apple under Tim has shown me that they have the chops to discover and execute on something actually groundbreaking.

So much of how we all perceive Apple as "innovative" and "game changing" is actually resting on the laurels of work from far in the past.
 
This is why I await a “killer app” despite much negativity around the concept (on this site and elsewhere). I see what’s possible with it! But nobody, including Apple, is offering anything other than “more of the same? MUCH MORE OF THE SAME!” While adding discomfort and isolation to the mix. No wonder most who wax poetic are focused on gaming or TV (shows, movies, sports, etc). And it does those things, probably quite well. I require more, however. And I have faith that Apple will find it, assuming it does well enough in the market that Apple continues to invest in it.
This is fundamentally what I think. Currently people are paying around $4k for the "privilege" of being a beta tester. I feel like users and Apple's ideas of what this thing could be are hampered by the actual reality of the technology. Apple cynically released this device as a means to bolster market cap, not actually solve any problems but maybe it will solve a problem we all have someday out in the future.
 
This is where we part ways I think

Nothing about Apple under Tim has shown me that they have the chops to discover and execute on something actually groundbreaking.

So much of how we all perceive Apple as "innovative" and "game changing" is actually resting on the laurels of work from far in the past.

Under Tim, all of their products have evolved at a snails pace.
 
Lol once again, all of those things can be done in some form for $2500 less! Seriously, do people even look at other headsets or just think Apple invented all of this stuff?
Let me know when you actually try one otherwise you’re just guessing
 
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Under Tim, all of their products have evolved at a snails pace.
The most "evolution" that's happened is creating endless SKUs in all the product lines
I would have to disagree with both these assessments. Apple silicon on Macs is the biggest innovation imo that we have had since the iPad and iPhone. It is incredible. It is so incredible that now the whole industry seems destined to go the way of ARM. The innovation in Macs and iPhones have been incredible IMO, everything else yeah maybe lol
 
I would have to disagree with both these assessments. Apple silicon on Macs is the biggest innovation imo that we have had since the iPad and iPhone. It is incredible. It is so incredible that now the whole industry seems destined to go the way of ARM. The innovation in Macs and iPhones have been incredible IMO, everything else yeah maybe lol

A few things

1. Work on ASi is rumored to have started a LONG time ago

2. While it's nice to see the efficiency, they are having issues scaling it up for a pure high end performance usage, especially on the graphics side.

3. Let's compare it to a "car" -- making a more efficient or better tech engine (ASi) is great, but it's not actually fundamentally changing anything about what you do with the car.

Do you see my point about ASi?
Nothing it provides is changing what you actually do on a computer or how you do it.

A fundamental or revolutionary change would be something that completely disrupts how you do things and what you can accomplish.
 
I'm sure it's a really amazing device. I remember taking the original iPhone out of its box for the first time and thinking, "wow, this is really cool." But I'm never going to gush like a 13 year old at a Taylor Swift concert about any piece of technology. That's just so weird to me. Either it fulfills a practical need or it doesn't, but all this emotion is just so creepy.



Pathetic is more the word I would use. Marketing is such a dangerous manipulation and Apple is an absolute master of it.

Irony you getting down on positive emotions while being so negative

I get it you don’t want one.
 
A few things

1. Work on ASi is rumored to have started a LONG time ago

2. While it's nice to see the efficiency, they are having issues scaling it up for a pure high end performance usage, especially on the graphics side.

3. Let's compare it to a "car" -- making a more efficient or better tech engine (ASi) is great, but it's not actually fundamentally changing anything about what you do with the car.

Do you see my point about ASi?
Nothing it provides is changing what you actually do on a computer or how you do it.

A fundamental or revolutionary change would be something that completely disrupts how you do things and what you can accomplish.

And upgrade and repairability have gone further in the wrong direction with AS.
 
And upgrade and repairability have gone further in the wrong direction with AS.

Oh yeah - I forgot about the "innovation" of locking down the SSD/RAM so they could price gouge the hell out of their customers at the time of purchase.

Joy

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At one point people defended the non slotted SSD by saying it was "faster"

I wonder if Mac evangelists realize that off the shelf slotted NVME drives are now quite a bit faster than what Apple puts in, at a premium no less.
 
A few things

1. Work on ASi is rumored to have started a LONG time ago

2. While it's nice to see the efficiency, they are having issues scaling it up for a pure high end performance usage, especially on the graphics side.

3. Let's compare it to a "car" -- making a more efficient or better tech engine (ASi) is great, but it's not actually fundamentally changing anything about what you do with the car.

Do you see my point about ASi?
Nothing it provides is changing what you actually do on a computer or how you do it.

A fundamental or revolutionary change would be something that completely disrupts how you do things and what you can accomplish.
The minute I bought my iPhone 5S with the first 64-bit ARM chip in consumer device (maybe first ever?) it was painfully obvious to me that Apple would someday make their own silicon, to me it was a foregone conclusion. The guys making this stuff have been at Apple since iPhone 4 and they are all top notch people. I used to post threads on here YEARS ago hypothesizing on the possibilities and total idiots talking out their ass would try to tell me why it would never be possible. I don't see it really having issues scaling, maybe you mean graphics. I would answer that you have to understand that Apple is not a chipmaker like their "competitors" are, they simply make the chips for their products. No one else can say this.

Also it is actually doing quite a bit more than my previous MBP and it was an incredible leap. The battery life, the power, etc all in this package. Keep in mind when I bought my first MBP it was intel, for the longest time I thought that laptops were a bad value prop and then M1 happened.

And this is certainly disruptive, if not for the Apple Silicon this device, as much as I crap on it, would not be possible. Most of Apple's current products simply wouldn't be possible without their silicon team. Several massive companies are trying to make competitive products now. In my eyes, now that most the design all-stars are gone, the silicon team are the all-stars at Apple now.
 
Everything he mentions I've done on other headsets? How is that guessing?

It’s guessing because you have no clue on the quality and depth you are just supporting your preconceived bias… the question is why is this so important to you? I don’t waste my time in android forums. All the negative comments were made weeks ago. Now you’re just rationalizing.
 
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