Funny isn't it (no respect for G4 Powerbooks)
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Obsidian6
macrumors 6502a
smokeyboi said:a little touchy aren't we? geez...it's just computers were talking about here, it's not like i'm insulting anyone personally. some people here obviously need some help!
youre right, it is just a computer. but what i dont understand, is why come to a thread that is discussing the redeeming qualities of the g4 powerbooks, and bad mouth them?
i just fail to see your logic there. sure you can have your opinion, i don't care, but to come in here and tell us that our laptops are total crap because you feel so negatively about them, just doesn't make sense.
also - to say "its not like im insulting anyone personally" then turn around and say " some people here obviously need some help" how is that not insulting me?
whatever, anyways. just don't come and post negative BS where it clearly isnt wanted.
panoz7
macrumors 6502a
dpaanlka said:
Agreed.
Just out of curiosity smokeyboi, have you ever used a late G4?
I don't think anybody on this board would suggest that the G4 is the superior chip, or that it is faster then the intel chips for universal apps, but for me, as with a significant number of "pro" users running certain apps under Rosetta just doesn't work well. Am I impressed that the intel chips can run Photoshop through emulation almost as quickly as a powerpc G4 can do it natively? Of Course. But its still not quite as fast and not nearly as stable.
I think what others, and certainly myself are objecting to is your absolute point of view. The point of this thread was to point (that was the third "point" in like fifteen words... should probably work on my vocabulary a bit instead of surfing mac rumors...) out that just because something isn't the latest and greatest doesn't automatically make it bad. It just makes it not as new and not the best.
AGoglanian said:
ok dude! yes i agree that you need to get some serious help......FAST!
dpaanlka said:
uh...when did I ever say that the G4's were "useless"??? get your facts straight dude! or better yet, learn to read properly!
panoz7 said:
yes, i previously owned a 1.5ghz powerbook G4 and it was too slow for me. slow enough that I had to return it and get a refund.
exabytes18
macrumors 6502
The only thing that attracted me to Macs were the PowerPC processors. Windows boxes with either Intel or AMD processors couldn't really hold their own in the past. My saying is... Power to PowerMacs powered by PowerPC processors. Any computer with a G3, G4, or G5 has my respect.
Haha thats the same with me. I baught it in Sept for school, couldnt hold out another year to do comp sci with only a desktop. Now i just cant justify dropping another $2000+ for anotherone. Do i regret my purchase? Not at all, it just sucks now having a windows booted dt and a mac booted lp. Next summer when the intels proven to be more stable, the heating is hopefully fixed, and the stupid cosmetic problems are hopefully all covered, i can see myself getting a mbp.ghall said:
Than in another few months post the same message.
supremedesigner
macrumors 65816
Powerbookdriver said:
Well I did like PB G4 but the bus speed sucks! If the bus speed were any good, I'd go for it. I can't stand 167 mHz.
FF_productions
macrumors 68030
I'm not a PowerBook G4 owner, but a PowerMac G4 owner. Everyone says it is ancient and all the crap, I really don't notice/care. This computer is just as fast as my iMac G5 that I had before this one. Intel is a boat I don't want to jump on yet because the Mac Pro's aren't even out yet. I'm sure I'll consider Intel in a year or so, but I'll end up with a MacBook Pro when I go to college.
I acknowledge that there is better newer faster technology here/coming, but it will always be that way. I bet a month after the Mac Pro's come out, there will be threads saying "Updates Next Tuesday?!?!?".
Viva La G4!
I acknowledge that there is better newer faster technology here/coming, but it will always be that way. I bet a month after the Mac Pro's come out, there will be threads saying "Updates Next Tuesday?!?!?".
Viva La G4!
bluelovesorange
macrumors newbie
i just love the "old school" feel my quite capable 1.67 17" pBook gives me
brepublican
macrumors 6502a
Intel was a good choice for Apple because of two words: Road Map.
But don't knock the G4. Still awesome IMHO. Only way I am relinquishing my PowerBook G4 is if someone pries it from my cold dead hands. That, or it dies. Then I get an MBP or whatever Apple will be offering then
But don't knock the G4. Still awesome IMHO. Only way I am relinquishing my PowerBook G4 is if someone pries it from my cold dead hands. That, or it dies. Then I get an MBP or whatever Apple will be offering then
TEG
macrumors 604
Skeeball236 said:Titanium Powerbooks are pieces of crap....I've gone through two of them, both died of logic board failure within 3 years. Both had the video fritz problem, which is a precursor to LB failure.
Both were more expensive to repair than what they were worth.
Thank goodness I didn't sell my Pismo, 6 years running strong....
I have both a TiBook 500 and 667 (DVI). I'm not to sure about the history with the 667, as I only got it in Janurary (for $400), but I love my TiBook 500. It had some minor Rev A problems, the LB has be changed 4 times (1 for Video card problems, 1 for Keyboard Problems, 1 for a broken USB Port, and 1 for a memory problem frying the board. Thank the almighty for AppleCare. I will swear by Apple Care, never without my machine for more that 5 days for each problem. Some of the problems were caused by minor accidents, including a dent in the back of the screen which they fixed, no questions asked. The thing I like best, the full tilt ability of the screen compared to the AluBooks and MBP/MB/iBooks. Nearly 170 degrees of flex, plus 4-5 hour battery life on the original battery and 5-6 hour battery life on the replacement I bought when one of my cells self distructed.
TEG
TEG
macrumors 604
FF_productions said:
The best thing about the old G4s is that you ca n pick one oup on eBay or CraigsList, (or the marketplace) for $200, buy and upgrade chip for $200-$300, and have a great machine (read: able to run new games, and keep up with the G4mini). Plus, the older ones, just use standard SDRAM, which is very cheap, infact I have nearly 1 GB siting at home, because I've upgraded other machines. I just wish I had one, along with one of the smokey plastic or clear plastic CRTs Apple had.
TEG
TEG
macrumors 604
brepublican said:Intel was a good choice for Apple because of two words: Road Map.
But don't knock the G4. Still awesome IMHO. Only way I am relinquishing my PowerBook G4 is if someone pries it from my cold dead hands. That, or it dies. Then I get an MBP or whatever Apple will be offering then
Yea, Because IBM was focusing on Core and the modified G5s for the Game Consoles. Plus, they couldn't make the G5 very power conservative or cool, and had no Intention on doing so.
And Steve went with Intel, because they made good Laptop and Consumer chips, while AMD made killer server chips. (But they did have consumer 64-bit.)
TEG
Performance facts
I've owned a PISMO since 2000. I want to upgrade, and I wont be getting a used G4 pbook because the benchmarks for rendering a Cinema 4dXL
on a 2.16 MBP are 1.07 vs 3.57 on a pbook 1.67. I'm no expert but that seems like no contest. I checked out my gf's bros G4 pbook and I thought it was hardly any faster than my pismo. So there ya go. Unfortunately the MBPs have issues that need to be ironed out. Guess I gotta wait.
G4 desktops with the dual-processors still kick ass though and are totally durable.
Those are worth getting just for workhorses, and they still arent that cheap, yet,
but soon. Plus, as much as I like OSX, I still cant get over my OS 9.1-9.2. SO MUCH
software for it fromt the past....and so devoid of some of the bs that envelopes you
in OSX. Totally transparent, versus schoolmarm OSX - though Tiger is a great improvement.
I've owned a PISMO since 2000. I want to upgrade, and I wont be getting a used G4 pbook because the benchmarks for rendering a Cinema 4dXL
on a 2.16 MBP are 1.07 vs 3.57 on a pbook 1.67. I'm no expert but that seems like no contest. I checked out my gf's bros G4 pbook and I thought it was hardly any faster than my pismo. So there ya go. Unfortunately the MBPs have issues that need to be ironed out. Guess I gotta wait.
G4 desktops with the dual-processors still kick ass though and are totally durable.
Those are worth getting just for workhorses, and they still arent that cheap, yet,
but soon. Plus, as much as I like OSX, I still cant get over my OS 9.1-9.2. SO MUCH
software for it fromt the past....and so devoid of some of the bs that envelopes you
in OSX. Totally transparent, versus schoolmarm OSX - though Tiger is a great improvement.
Obsidian6
macrumors 6502a
Wow, I just took my powerbook into the apple store today to question about the banding issue on the display.
The genius i was working with said it was never recognized as a wide-spread problem, but i was very polite the whole time, and just explained how crucial it is for me to have a good screen ( i'm a photographer ) he agreed with me completely and took it in to have it replaced.
only thing is, theyre replacing the logic board too. Which i was surprised about, don't they usually just give you a new computer when the logic board goes out?
because my repair bill is $1564 ( or would have been that much if i didnt have a warranty ) Seems to me like it would be cheaper for them just to give me a Macbook
The genius i was working with said it was never recognized as a wide-spread problem, but i was very polite the whole time, and just explained how crucial it is for me to have a good screen ( i'm a photographer ) he agreed with me completely and took it in to have it replaced.
only thing is, theyre replacing the logic board too. Which i was surprised about, don't they usually just give you a new computer when the logic board goes out?
because my repair bill is $1564 ( or would have been that much if i didnt have a warranty ) Seems to me like it would be cheaper for them just to give me a Macbook