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There's no divX problem on the mac aslong as you don't think you can just drop the codec in the quicktime extension folder and then open the avi files.

if you get DivX Doctor II, the wma codec and the latest divX codec (all available on the same site), you just drop the plug-ins in the right place, drag you're DivX format AVIs over DivX doctor then open the doctored .MOV file it creates from it. NO playback issues. Also concidering the DivX codec runs fine on my beige G3, I can't see how anyone with a G4 could be having any issues with DivX unless they don't know about preparing the files for playback.
 
Re: I was right

Originally posted by dukestreet


Not to gloat or anything, but it seems I actually called this one - even though it was a bit of speculation.

https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php3?threadid=4638

But, and I'll stress this, its not a given that we will actually be seeing this, I'm still of the opinion its an old prototype.

D

Sorry, Dukestreet, but I pre-date you by about three days on that one:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/4500/

And anyhow, the point is I don't know why they didn't keep this idea for the XServes - it sort of made sense! :cool:
 
Re: Re: Re: Further Details Regarding Leaked Pro Mac

Originally posted by IndyGopher


What are you going on about? The 6500 does not have a vertically mounted hard drive. I cannot remember if the TAM had a vertical drive or not.. but I cannot think of a single Mac ever that had a vertically mounted drive. On the other hand, millions of PC's out there have vertically mounted drives... and every major drive manufacturer lists vertical as an accepted orientation anyway.
IndyGopher, what are YOU talking about? The PowerMac 6500 (and PowerMac/Performa 6400) models have vertically mounted hard drives.

Frankly, I don't care if the drives are vertically mounted. If that's what's needed in the design to get us to 1.4GHz with DDR RAM and ATA/133, then mount the drives vertical. I normally take out the stock ATA drive and put in my own drive(s) anyway (currently the WD 120GB Special Edition w/8MB disk cache). These drives come with a 3-year warranty, so even if they are more likely to fail in a vertical orientation, they probably won't, and if they do, I'm covered. Apple, just give us somethign faster using TODAY's technology. ATA/66 in current "top-of-the-line" Powermacs that cost 3 grand? That's a joke.
 
Originally posted by Grokgod
~lordrpi

I find that to be a very interesting story!

I really think that something is happenig or NOT happening inside Apple.

One example is the Divx problem, why in the world is it so hard to get this codex to work on a current os? I am sure there must be a way, but I sure havent figured it out yet.

I mean what happened to Macs beingthe easiest computers to work with.

Does not being able to do something make it easier to give up?

You have any others stories to back up the "engineers in the clouds" possibilties.?

I'm not at liberty to start giving out more info, and I wouldn't even consider myself a reliable inside source. But generally, I know ~10 apple engineers of some sort, all are oblivious to the PC world. What I will say though is, Apple seems to be cutting back on the actual hardware engineering jobs, noting that a good amount of their engineers put in extreme hours. Most of the effort seems to have shifted to the iApps. For those of you at MWNY, you'll definately see that as being true.

I will respond to the DivX problem in another reply...
 
Originally posted by groovebuster


It has to do with license fees, copyrights, patents and support. DivX is no officlal format, it is a "hack" of some codecs mixed together by some Open Source freaks, even violating the patent pending mp4 standard, since it is using some parts for the video-compression.

The current version of DivX(5) is no longer a hack, it is a legitamate codec. DivXNetworks also pays for MPEG-4 licensing fees.

Do you think that the Windows Media Player can play DixXs by standard? Last time I checked it couldn't.

That's not the point... Windows Media Player can play DivX correctly as long as the DivX codec is installed. The problem with QT, is that the AVI handler they use is dated, so it does not know how to correctly parse mp3 information within the AVI. All Linux and Windows movie players can read an AVI correctly. Maybe I should phrase it, "QuickTime cannot play an AVI file back correctly."

Apple only implements technology that is based on official patents or standards, what is all OK in my opinon. QT is open for Plug-Ins, so it is up to the OpenSource community to deliver a working DivX Plug-In or Player for MacOS X...

Because of the AVI issue in QT, the plugins for DivX can support video correctly, but the Audio is broken.
 
Consider This:

While I am still extremely skeptical of the leaked pics (due to the vent-hole misalignment), It ocurred to me that perhaps if you see this tower *in person*, the aluminum plate might not stand out as much like a sore thumb... Rather the color/saturation might blend in to the plastic very nicely.
 
It looks like the server's picking up it's daytime load again... It's getting bogged down like yesterday...

Well, something is definitely going on at Apple... The huge cooling system means super-fast G4's, or a completely different processor altogether. I don't think that the G4 would get hot enough to justify a heat sink the size of the G4 cube...

Maybe if Apple is going to use IBM Power4 chips, they could call the new powermacs, Power4Macs... i don't know, it sounds kinda catchy... :cool:

I just hope whatever Apple has in store for us is good...
 
Originally posted by G4scott
It looks like the server's picking up it's daytime load again... It's getting bogged down like yesterday...

Hey Arn, shut the boards down again, but this time, either leave the private boards open, or allow the demi-gods access while shutting out the rif-raf.
 
Re: Final box my arse!

Originally posted by jayscheuerle
There's NO WAY Apple is going to release another tower with this aged design. It doesn't fit in with ANY of their current products. I'd pay more attention to what's inside. I wouldn't pay ANY attention to this feebly crafted diversion.... - j

Why do so many people insist that they know what Apple will do. If anything, they'll do the least likely thing. I'll admit that the case doesn't look very Ives-esque, but it could be an Apple Product, especially with an updated G4 in the mix. They probably wouldn't release the case destined for the G5 with a G4 in it at any time. Setting the G5 apart will be very important.
 
While I am still extremely skeptical of the leaked pics (due to the vent-hole misalignment)

If you look at the entire picture, instead of the close up picture, you'll see that the holes are distorted because there is plastic covering the entire tower. If you look close, you'll see the distortion of the plastic as it pics up light right around the air vents.
 
Re: Re: Final box my arse!

Originally posted by drastik


Why do so many people insist that they know what Apple will do. If anything, they'll do the least likely thing. I'll admit that the case doesn't look very Ives-esque, but it could be an Apple Product, especially with an updated G4 in the mix. They probably wouldn't release the case destined for the G5 with a G4 in it at any time. Setting the G5 apart will be very important.

You got me on that one, BUT Apple's extremely sensitive to how they're being perceived and the Quicksilver cases were a joke for a box in desperate need of an upgrade. These cases haven't substantially changed since the B/W G3's. I'm betting that Apple finally acknowledges that people don't carry their towers around by the handles and like stacking peripherals on top by making an elegant, simply lined box. G5's could be a year away.... or more....
 
quicksilver variant

it seems to me that it's just a different version of the present case...
with the plastics missing from the drive bay doors...
you test hardware in almost any case... this could even be a remnant
design from the quicksilver design phase... use the old molds and just
drop in the new hardware for testing...maybe the front and back panels are the only thing that are really new.
 
gotta be a hack...

This has to be a fake.

While the plastics would seem to go with the current consumer color schemes, pro would be a lttle different. And while the basic G3/G4 case design is a great one but showing age, I find a few flaws in the case itself.

Number one is the proportional size. Look at your current G4 case next to you. It is proportionally wider based on the height than compared to this 'leaked' photo. Also the CD drive bay doors look a little too narrow for that case width unless this thing was freaking tall, like at least 8" taller than the current box.

if this is true, that the case is proportionally different and larger, ask yourself this simple question:

If Apple was going to design a newer, larger case for the new crop of pro desktops, woulnd't they have spent the money on the factory retool on a new and differnet case design? Whay would they rework the plastic molds for a door panal that is the same shape and design?

Retooling is expensive. If this is the case, that they have retooled, this will be the basic case design for a while i would guess, no real different box for at least a year. Check the G3/G4 graphite/G4 Quicksilver timelines.

My 2¢.
 
Originally posted by wchamlet


If you look at the entire picture, instead of the close up picture, you'll see that the holes are distorted because there is plastic covering the entire tower. If you look close, you'll see the distortion of the plastic as it pics up light right around the air vents.
Yeah I also thought of that possibility... Originally couldn't see how cellophane could "lens" an image to that degree, but I suppose it's entirely possible.

Let's suppose there's a picture I've doctored to better reflect what the actual tones of this case might look like. let's suppose it's in g_v_s homepage@mac.com in the .Pictures directory and is called contrast.jpg This is entirely a theory, of course.
 
I think we can all agree we love the Mac OS. Why else would we be here? And we hate the way M$ does business.

But a lot of us loyalists, who once touted the superiority of the hardware, software, and the company in general, seem to be waivering. Apple isn't the only one running a business in an "economic slowdown". Most of us are at least budgeting, and need the most bang for our bucks.

Sorry to tell you, but Wintels are the competition. If Apple wants to win consumers, and keep us non-zealot supporters, they need to wake up. If Motorola is lagging, find other ways to make things look better. Faster FSB, memory, IDE, overall system improvements. The cases are neat and all, but what about what's inside? The software is Fantastic, give us the hardware to prove it. We all dislike Windows.

And M$. So why conduct business like they do? I support them buying up other companies to innovate (Apple, not M$), and giving us new software solutions, but at what costs. Should we just accept it, because it's the lesser of 2 evils? Should we just say, "well that's the fastest Mac there is, so I'll buy it". Or "it looks so stylish, who cares if it's still using last years technology". Why become complacent with the obsolesencs?

Should we have to over pay for things that others offer for free, or at least cheaper? People are mad because they feel extorted, and dammit, they have every right to be pissed. They paid extra because they thought they were getting more. Now they're getting the old "bait and switch". The extras of .Mac are worth $100/year, if they work. But what about the "free for life" e-mail. Or paying $1,000 for a new OS X.2 Server Liscense 2 months after buying a $4,000+ xServe? Or even FULL PRICE for an upgrade. They want us to buy hardware before an Expo, then punish us if we do.

See if anybody buys a new Mac after they announce 10.3, but before they deliver it. Next it will be XP type registration practices. Isn't this why we're trying to move away M$. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you don't get new customers by p*ssing people off, and you lose those that used to support you. How many of us used to rave to our friends, family, and co-workers about Apples? How many of us now think twice before recommending them? They want to switch people, give them a better reason to want to switch.

They want to move into the Pro realm, give us Pro hardware. Who cares if you have a 1.2 GHz CPU, if it's surrounded by ATA/133 (which really is better than ATA/66), 120 GB+ Hard Drives, PC2700 DDR, 166 FSB (x2), 2 CD Drives, USB 2, built-in Bluetooth, etc. It matters now. You can do it. How many of us use GB Ethernet, or used USB or FW when they first came out? You can't use modern day specs!?!

You want to charge us more, give us more. All you zealots can flame away. "Apple good, Wintel bad, must hide head in sand". You should see what the other side is saying, I'm a zealot to them. But I'm just trying to be a realist here. I want a new Mac, but nothing on the current roster suits my needs. I'm not paying $2,000 for style. I can't afford to. Not many can (and if you can, lucky you). Mr. Jobs, give me something fairly decent and I'll take a (slight) performance hit for the extra stability and ease of use.

It's my $$$, I'll take it where I think it would serve me best. And telling people to just go buy a PC doesn't help. Actually it just proves my point. Because that's exactly what people do. This isn't a private club, it's a business claiming to want new customers, and in doing so doesn't seem to be catering to it's current base. If anything, it's p*ssing off it's most important clientel by making a lot of really bad choices. We're not happy, and we, the customer, are what matter.

Voice your opinions people. And b*tch all you want, until someone listens. Because no, it's not "good enough".

We're mad as Hell, and we're not gonna take it anymore.
 
so much bellyaching... wait a month!

wow I think I've heard all that about a thousand times...

I'm not at all interested in the outside of the case at the moment...

Apple competes with PC makers who don't innovate... the biggest innovation they have is more megahertz... that's it... and apple can't be expected to
reinvent the wheel every 6 months. And they also can't be expected to keep shelling out the bucks for free services. IF the August powermac release is the major board upgrade, if not the G5 update we have been waiting for...
I'll BET that it will be a substantial upgrade in preformance.... and paired with an Xraid... oooo...

And $129 for 10.2 is worth it I'm sure. It's not a point release...

but really... is a cheaper over clocked pc really the answer to those who aren't getting it fast enough or cheap enough in the mac world?

I doubt it. They're never happy anyway.
 
Wow, go away for a little fun in the snow for a weekend and look what happens. And no, I don't need the photos emailed, I just got 'em from MOSR. Ignoring the question of authenticity and just looking at the info at hand, the heat sink looks like one of two things to my untrained eye. First, forward planning for the G5 just down the road. Second guess is that the new boxes could have a multi proc setup just for rendering, several proc linked together to be a built in render farm. What do you think? Possible? Nobody is syaing that on eor two G4 chips needs that big of a heat sink, but what about 4 or more G4's? If they aren't the 1 gig chips, but a bunch of the older slower ones clustered would that economically feasible? Would it be worth it?
 
>Hey Arn, shut the boards down again, but this time, either leave the private boards open, or allow the demi-gods access while shutting out the rif-raf.

hmmm, thanks! just cause I dont contribute like a mad man I get the boot?

>And $129 for 10.2 is worth it I'm sure. It's not a point release...
even better as a student! look at the software inluded...if 10.2 is as easy as it says it is to connect to winlows...then dave goes outta business (because I wont buy licences), and I don't hve to spend 3+ hours configuring each mac with samba so already, by purchacing 10.2 I am actually making money, (including my hourly rate into the figure)

that's awesome
 
I think it was Think Secret who was saying that new powermacs would be released on August 15th (or was it the 14th :confused: )

It looks like we're going to have to wait a while for this one... But I'm still wondering what kind of processors or what they're going to put in the thing to require such a heat sink...
 
If they come i august it'll be on the 12th which ends the rebate currently running, and is a Monday, for what that's worth.;)
 
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