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Till now you never knew this was missing from your workflow. Now it does feel like there's a huge gap in your workflow and this is going to just complete it. Until the next patent Apple files.
 
Problem is what you see and what pencil picks up will be very different stuff if you are into serious color
 
Problem is what you see and what pencil picks up will be very different stuff if you are into serious color
...all the more reason to use Apple's new MagicPencil™ whose "vision" precisely matches standard digital file format for color-correct publication in various media.

"what you see ...if you are into serious color"

Of course your "serious color" vision is still critical to the outcome!

...it's just that now the technical side of it transforms into a simple gesture of a pencil.
 
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Problem is what you see and what pencil picks up will be very different stuff if you are into serious color

Well, absolutely.
And let’s not forget that Apple still doesn’t allow color calibration of an iPad screen, therefore critical color matching (on iPads) is far from being at the top of their agenda.
 
Don’t paint stores already do this? Perhaps not with a stylus, but certainly you can bring in a colour and have it matched.
 
This is definitely a cool feature to have despite me never really needing it. I echo the concern of others that given the fact that I wouldn’t need it I sincerely hope that Apple releases it as an option for those who do rather than not giving us those choice between pencil versions. Adding hardware features without a doubt adds complexity and cost to production and while this kind of feature will be invaluable to many, it won’t be valuable to everyone. Who knows, maybe one day I’d choose an Apple Pencil Pro over a standard one . . I’d just like a choice is all, without it having any effect on other hardware choices.
 
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This is definitely a cool feature to have despite me never really needing it. I echo the concern of others that given the fact that I wouldn’t need it I sincerely hope that Apple releases it as an option for those who do rather than not giving us those choice between pencil versions. Adding hardware features without a doubt adds complexity and cost to production and while this kind of feature will be invaluable to many, it won’t be valuable to everyone. Who knows, maybe one day I’d choose an Apple Pencil Pro over a standard one . . I’d just like a choice is all, without it having any effect on other hardware choices.
If a Pencil is released at the standard pencil 2 cost but had this, would that bother you?
 
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...or just switch to the erase tool that every app has?
I could do the same in Photoshop, but it's nice to have a second button bound to something like an eraser and you just flip the pen around. Or bind the eraser tip to a different tool. Not to mention things like side-buttons (but some third-party iOS pens have those, unlike the pencil)
 
If a Pencil is released at the standard pencil 2 cost but had this, would that bother you?

Nope. It’d be awesome if Apple decides to cut margin on a 3rd generation of pencil in order to keep it priced at $129 but include a colorimeter in the device.
 
Ok, so one of those is a raw component nowhere near small enough to be used on a stylus, and the other is a big honking handheld device used in completely different ways.

That was the first one I saw and it's deliberately made as a large module so that hobbyists can use it at home without specialized equipment. I put a little effort into find a smaller sensor, and found they're typically around 1x1.5mm. That's plenty small enough to go under a cap on the tip or back of the apple pencil.

I'm not sure what you think is being patented here, but the ability to just "sense color" ain't it. That capability in and of itself has been around longer than any of the examples above. What is being patented is the application of this capability into a stylus that is integrated with a computing device i.e. tablet.

I see, so building the technology and hardware that does all the work "ain't it", but buying an off the shelf component and putting into your stylus is "it". Because the modules I'm showing only exist to be integrated into computing devices as it is, and even hobbyists have been do that for years, it's very simple because the hard part is already done by these sensor modules.

I guess if you have enough kool-aid, you'll believe buying someone else's tech and putting your own logo on it the only "true" innovation. It explains why Apple expanded their marketing budget so much under Tim Sculley -- er Cook.
 
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Wow. I could really use this!

Especially if the Apple Pencil worked on the iPhone.
 
I see, so building the technology and hardware that does all the work "ain't it", but buying an off the shelf component and putting into your stylus is "it". Because the modules I'm showing only exist to be integrated into computing devices as it is, and even hobbyists have been do that for years, it's very simple because the hard part is already done by these sensor modules.

I guess if you have enough kool-aid, you'll believe buying someone else's tech and putting your own logo on it the only "true" innovation. It explains why Apple expanded their marketing budget so much under Tim Sculley -- er Cook.

So, did you have a valid source that said Apple was specifically "buying someone else's tech and putting their logo on it" in this instance, or were you just grossly oversimplifying all this in the interest of snark?
 
So, did you have a valid source that said Apple was specifically "buying someone else's tech and putting their logo on it" in this instance, or were you just grossly oversimplifying all this in the interest of snark?

Which tech in their devices does Apple not buy and put their logo on? Arguably the iOS CPUs, but even that is based on someone else's designs and made is someone else's chip fab. Everything else is just bought and slapped together like lego. Screens, Cameras, Radios, Memory, Batteries. All the major parts are bought from other companies. Apple designs very little except the software and housings.

Not that I mean any of this to take away from Apple; it's about the finished product after all. But how can you possibly say Apple is presumed to be designing a part on their own that is otherwise commercially available without seeing proof they're not? It's entirely the way Apple does business to buy as much as possible and do as little as possible on their own.
 
Phil Schiller may now repeat his famous “Can’t innovate anymore. My ass!”-line.

I think there are not many people that will have a very good use case for this functionality, but it would be incredibly useful for the ones that could use it.


And just a lot of fun. I can see myself never getting past "oh I think I'll tweak my desktop background color to match one of the fabric scraps in the little mug-mat under my coffee cup during my break..."
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This sounds like it would make the pencil more expensive.

Maybe they could build the sensor into the iPad instead. It could detect light, colour, shapes.... something like, I don’t know, a camera? 🤔

The idea that a new feature will make something more expensive has been around since a woman saw her husband and some other guys pulling a load of stone on some skids for a pyramid. She realized someone had shelled out good money for that thing, and then figured hey we could just stick a parasol into one end of that little platform et voila, market it for way more money as a baby stroller.
 
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I could do the same in Photoshop, but it's nice to have a second button bound to something like an eraser and you just flip the pen around. Or bind the eraser tip to a different tool. Not to mention things like side-buttons (but some third-party iOS pens have those, unlike the pencil)

Side buttons I'd love to have (for MMB-click and RMB-click functionality). But isn't there already a way to tap click and bind that to a tool switch functionality. I seem to remember reading that there is.
 
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