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I wonder if the AS 16” MBPs will be sold alongside the intel 16”, just like they are doing with the 13”. And I wonder for how long they will do this. Will the AS and intel machines both see updates until the end of the “couple years” transition? I noticed they kept saying “couple years” during the presentation instead of the more definitive “two years” from wwdc (or year and a half now).
 
Hard to see use for a 14" being that 2 new 13" were just released... 2x M1's for the 16" MBP?
The M1 MBP announced yesterday only replaces the lower end 13" models, and Apple are likely being conservative with the first releases by keeping the existing design. A new 14" to replace the higher end 13" Intel models, perhaps with the lower end to follow later, seems reasonable. It is a machine I would find hard to resist.
 
Compared to what? I3 machine?
According to fine print on apple website “Testing conducted by Apple in October 2020 using preproduction MacBook Air systems with Apple M1 chip and 8-core GPU, as well as production 1.2GHz quad-core Intel Core i7-based MacBook Air systems, all configured with 16GB RAM and 2TB SSD.”
 
I can see Apple using a couple of M1 chips like they use to do with the Power PC systems and AMD graphics processor chips for a new Mac Pro Mini. The MacBook Pro 16 would use a M2 processor chip with AMD mobile processor chip. But they are still going to have developers start recoding their Mac applications into ASIC code. IOS apps are cute but they are not full blown computer application, just scaled down versions of the full product.
 
You can hate or love Apple, but with the move to ARM they are giving the industry a huge boost. 2020 is the first year in over a decade that I feel like something is really going on in the computer industry.
 
I remember when Apple released the first intel Mac mini. It was powerful compared to what power pc had to offer but also pretty bad (single core, 32bit) compared to the core2duo released just a short time after. I’m holding out till M2 if I can to see the progress Apple makes from 1 to 2nd gen and newer hardware designs.
 
Compared to what? I3 machine?
Yes according to their testing/comparison in the fine print on the bottom of the product pages. For the Mac mini always, testing was done with an early production M1 2TB SSD/16GB RAM machine vs the 2018 i3 2TB SSD/16GB RAM. And they compare the GPU to the Intel 630 version.
On The MacBook Pro it's tested/compared to the quad-core i7 of the previous low-end Mac Book Pro and the GPU is the Intel Iris.
So yes basically. That's why the Intel models will still be here for 2-3 years and why they are still selling the higher-end 13-inch MBP and the 2018 'Pro' model Mac mini's.
 
If they dont offer 32 and 64 MB memory options, its a non-starter for me. Anything with a Pro label capped at 16Mb of RAM is sad. I use a 2012 iMac with 32Mb of Ram that is now not capable of running Big Sur, and really wanted to move to a new Apple Silicon Mac. Why should Mac Mini, and iMac users (our only non Mac Pro options for desktop machines) have to downgrade from up to 64Mb?

All that having been said, I also really appreciate the approach of integrating the memory on the SOC from a security point of view as well as the SOC controlled security of the SSD Storage. I am a big fan of better security and OS sandboxing of memory to prevent apps from accessing other app or OS data. So I am not criticizing the design to be clear.

I hope Apple will comment on expanded memory options we can expect in the future.
 
According to fine print on apple website “Testing conducted by Apple in October 2020 using preproduction MacBook Air systems with Apple M1 chip and 8-core GPU, as well as production 1.2GHz quad-core Intel Core i7-based MacBook Air systems, all configured with 16GB RAM and 2TB SSD.”
The Mac mini pages says the testing was done using a 2018 i3 Quad-core model. And remember those were desktop-class. And they test it against the Intel UHD 630 GPU. Starting to doubt that fastest of most PC claims...
 
According to fine print on apple website “Testing conducted by Apple in October 2020 using preproduction MacBook Air systems with Apple M1 chip and 8-core GPU, as well as production 1.2GHz quad-core Intel Core i7-based MacBook Air systems, all configured with 16GB RAM and 2TB SSD.”
Thanks. I don’t get the snark. iPad Pros have surpassed many MacBook models in benchmarks for years. This is common knowledge so the performance shouldn’t surprise anyone.
Waiting for reviews on the mac mini M1 . Currently mac mini is the only affordable Apple machine without a screen .
Mac mini will be my first M1 to compliment my 16-inch MBP. I normally don’t own more than one Mac but I really want see what Apple’s cooking.
 
If they dont offer 32 and 64 MB memory options, its a non-starter for me. Anything with a Pro label capped at 16Mb of RAM is sad. I use a 2012 iMac with 32Mb of Ram that is now not capable of running Big Sur, and really wanted to move to a new Apple Silicon Mac. Why should Mac Mini, and iMac users (our only non Mac Pro options for desktop machines) have to downgrade from up to 64Mb?

All that having been said, I also really appreciate the approach of integrating the memory on the SOC from a security point of view as well as the SOC controlled security of the SSD Storage. I am a big fan of better security and OS sandboxing of memory to prevent apps from accessing other app or OS data. So I am not criticizing the design to be clear.

I hope Apple will comment on expanded memory options we can expect in the future.
They offer 8GB or 16 GB ways above the 32 & 64 MB you are mentioning, lol.... Just had to be that person but I knew what you were talking about...
 
It may be a dumb question, but what would be the difference of performance between the Mac book air and the MacBook Pro since they have the same ship?
 
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