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Future Apple Silicon Macs Rumored to Include Redesigned 14-Inch and 16-Inch MacBook Pro, 24-Inch iMac, and Smaller Mac Pro

newyorkguy said:
so please a last 16" with Intel!
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I'm think all the lines are moving to ARM in 2021. Apple will keep selling the current Intel models alongside them until the end of 2022. Dropping some Intel lines in 2021. That's likely what they meant by the transition taking until 2022. Then the 2023 macOS (11.3, 14, XIV) will be the last to support Intel.

I also think the only Intel models which may possibly get another Intel update are the MBP 16 and iMac 27. But that is doubtful. Beyond maybe a GPU bump or base config bump and upgrade price adjustment using the same gen parts as they currently use.
 
There is little value and more compromise with the first gen M1 Macs. You would be much better of going with an existing Intel Mac if you require right away; or waiting if you can to upgrade at the end of 2022.

As editor of 9 to 5 Mac noted, look at where Apple came from in 2006s MacBook to 2008’s MacBook Air?

The 2008 MacBook Air was underpowered, expensive and beautiful, but by 2010 it became the mainstream Mac for most. I don’t think history is gonna repeat itself with an underpowered redesigned thinner Mac in 2022 (then again 2015’s redesigned butterfly MacBook wasn’t a good attempt).

But I can see innovation fruiting from the transition with refreshed designs. Just don’t go backing yourselves into a thermal corner. Remember Apple, people need these things to make unboxing videos on YouTube at 8k.
 
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velocityg4 said:
I'm think all the lines are moving to ARM in 2021. Apple will keep selling the current Intel models alongside them until the end of 2022. Dropping some Intel lines in 2021. That's likely what they meant by the transition taking until 2022. Then the 2023 macOS (11.3, 14, XIV) will be the last to support Intel.

I also think the only Intel models which may possibly get another Intel update are the MBP 16 and iMac 27. But that is doubtful. Beyond maybe a GPU bump or base config bump and upgrade price adjustment using the same gen parts as they currently use.
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Nah, Apple will still push updates for Intel Macs for many, many years beyond that.
 
MakeAppleAwesomeAgain said:
There were 218 days between the Intel announcement and the first Intel products. This year there were 142 days between the AS announcement and the first AS products. Both transitions would take two years. The last PowerPC products were replaced 427 days after the Intel announcement. I think the complete line-up will be replaced before or during WWDC 2021.
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Interesting
But at some point, having only one processor will be limited

If they put an M1 into a 16", people will feel weird to pay 2k+ to have the same processor as the one in a computer 1k$ cheaper

Also, their SOC strategy is super nice, but it puts a big constraint on the amount of RAM you could include (and the price of the RAM is way bigger)
 
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JokerPower said:
So M2 will be available for 16", 14", iMac and Mac Pro
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The question is, Does th M1 scale up well ? Then, will we see M1x machines in the first three quarters of 2021, or does Apple need the M2 (based on A15, release in 2021 4th quarter) to release scaled up machines based on M2x ? In any case, all mac lineup will be AS at summer 2022.
 
Mr. Dee said:
There is little value and more compromise with the first gen M1 Macs. You would be much better of going with an existing Intel Mac if you require right away; or waiting if you can to upgrade at the end of 2022.
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Unless you are 75% of Mac users who don't know or care, they just want something in their price range that works.

The people reading about this now...yeah, those people need to wait.
 
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ingambe said:
Interesting
But at some point, having only one processor will be limited

If they put an M1 into a 16", people will feel weird to pay 2k+ to have the same processor as the one in a computer 1k$ cheaper

Also, their SOC strategy is super nice, but it puts a big constraint on the amount of RAM you could include (and the price of the RAM is way bigger)
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How about 2 M1's?
 
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transpo1 said:
That’s fantastic that it improves quality. But it’s still embarrassing that an iPhone has a 1080p webcam but a $2-5k MBP machine does not...
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The lid is thinner than an iPhone, I don't think it just cost saving, there must be a technical reason why then haven't put a 1080p camera.
Still, is a shame we have 720p on the Macbook. Apple could at least implement something in macOS to use an iPhone or iPad camera as a webcam for video conferencing, so you could put your phone next to the Mac, use the laptop for conferencing an still have a great video quality.
 
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Apple says the M1 chip delivers up to 3.5x faster system performance, up to 6x faster graphics performance, and up to 15x faster machine learning,
So they say M1 is 3 times faster than 4 core I7?
 
subjonas said:
I wonder if the AS 16” MBPs will be sold alongside the intel 16”, just like they are doing with the 13”. And I wonder for how long they will do this. Will the AS and intel machines both see updates until the end of the “couple years” transition? I noticed they kept saying “couple years” during the presentation instead of the more definitive “two years” from wwdc (or year and a half now).
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They said the transition would take 2 years, but didn't specify whether they meant 2 years from WWDC or from the release of the first Macs with Apple Silicon. Considering they have started with 3 mass market products in time for the holiday season (and the ongoing work-from-home environment), I'd say they are on schedule, but wouldn't be surprised if the Mac Pro update isn't ready for 2 years.
 
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I for one am not excited about the new Apple Silicon. It reminds me of the PowerPC days all over again. They promised the world back then as well. We all know how that turned out.. I’ve had all of the PPC variants over their lifespan. I was very excited when Apple went to intel. From my experience and perspective, RISC processors are good on the front end, very fast. It’s the back end to me where CISC shines. I just purchased a 16 inch i9, 2TB 5600m on Monday to keep me going for awhile and I love it. So I’m going to hang on to intel for as long as I can lol..
 
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velocityg4 said:
I'm think all the lines are moving to ARM in 2021. Apple will keep selling the current Intel models alongside them until the end of 2022. Dropping some Intel lines in 2021. That's likely what they meant by the transition taking until 2022. Then the 2023 macOS (11.3, 14, XIV) will be the last to support Intel.

I also think the only Intel models which may possibly get another Intel update are the MBP 16 and iMac 27. But that is doubtful. Beyond maybe a GPU bump or base config bump and upgrade price adjustment using the same gen parts as they currently use.
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I believe, I'm pretty positive Apple said at WWDC they would continue to support & release new Intel Macs alongside the Apple Silicon ones during the 2 year transition. I think 2025 is the earliest macOS that drops Intel support.
 
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newyorkguy said:
so please a last 16" with Intel!
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for what since the new gen intel chips for the 16" is not a big deal...if you want an intel 16" mbp buy the current one
Apple should and will stop pay Intel for small improvements from gen to gen , the same heat and thermals issues and so on.
 
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jamesjingyi said:
Yes, please just release it! The 16 is almost a year old now, and I'm in the market for a one!
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Yep....what happened to the rumor a few weeks ago listing a 16" Macbook Pro 2020 in the Bootcamp notes? I think a lot of people were eyeing a slightly updated 16" with Intel. Even a minor spec bump would be nice.
 
startergo said:
Apple says the M1 chip delivers up to 3.5x faster system performance, up to 6x faster graphics performance, and up to 15x faster machine learning,
So they say M1 is 3 times faster than 4 core I7?
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It depends on the specific task. Also, the Pro and Mini will be able to sustain high performance longer because they have fans. The Air will throttle with extended use, though likely not as much as the Intel MacBook Airs did.
 
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I am confident Apple's M1 (and later) ARM CPUs will be powerful enough to replace Intel parts if the Apple Axx progression to date is of any indication.
But I think RAM expandability, (e)GPU options and connectivity will need to be better addressed for more serious users to be convinced by more serious machines.
 
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