Future iPhone May Use Customized Wireless Charging System Made in Partnership with Broadcom

[Tycho24]

I really have no interest in setting my iPhone on a mat or dock, where it has to be specific. That has no appeal to me. I would rather use myLightning cable, as it takes very little effort and I don't see the mat/dock being as portable/compact as the cable is currently.

Long range wireless charging I think is no where near ready for the market. And my question would be, what's considered long range? 5ft? 15ft? 50ft? I think it's hard to say where long range is leading at this junction.

To me, anything over 3ft is a worthwhile start!
Like when energous was 1st doing their demos years back... they had one built into an iMac; if you set your (equipped) iPhone or iPad down anywhere on your desk while you were working, they would be getting charged.
That would work for "anywhere on a nightstand" or "anywhere on a dresser" as well; it's definitely not the final goal- but 3ft would be enough for me to dip my toe!

Edit:
Company I saw messing w/ the modified wireless charging iMac, may have NOT been energous; it could've been another startup- my memory is a bit hazy on that detail.

 

[now i see it]

These rumors will be more interesting in May.

 

[Analog Kid]

Apple strategy.
Year 1: Don't include inductive charging because it's the same as everybody else's doing.
Year 2: Rumour that they have market disrupting new wireless charging technology in development
Year 3: Cut off new technology last minute because it's not quite ready and go for inductive charging anyway.

It would be much easier just to say that their strategy is to investigate multiple solutions and pick the one that works.

 

[truthertech]

Whaha...Wireless escape if long-range charging is too ambitious:
http://appleinsider.com/articles/17/02/16/apple-investigating-manual-winding-apple-watch-iphone
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Problems with genuine innovation/new materials are merely form factor, processing issues, scaling up to mass production, stability and reliability. This is where sapphire screens failed miserably. The bigger Apple has become, the bigger the pile with unused patents grows. So Apple can't completely block other's innovation, but they can impede it considerably. Most patents are defensive now.
Long range wireless charging could also go along that way, if issues for immediate application arise.

The point how silly it was to slam Apple in advance of any product that they might produce that didn't conform to existing standards without knowing the costs and benefits of the innovation.

 

[Small White Car]

No way will they do that. Apple relies on their products to have a certain amount of status symbol, like it or not. Do you think people will buy *the latest Iphone* then when people ask what they have 'well it's the 7S, I know there is an 8 out but this is just the same without..' etc.. That's one thing Apple do not do.

Uh... you mean like this?

 

[truthertech]

[QUOTE="Naraxus, post: 24318701, member: 1052535"]It's called "Learning From History". Apple has a well-known history of this kind of asinine consumer-hostile behavior, the most recent being their decision to dump a port that's been working without a hitch for over 100 years just so they can sell a few dongles & $150 airbuds and call it courageous.[/QUOTE]

Odd that hundreds of millions of consumers around the world don't consider it to be anti-consumer as they have and are going to vote with their dollars that Apple gave them a better consumer value than the other companies.

It's also odd that you reject Apple's explanation that switching from the legacy 3.5mm plug freed up room for a larger battery, new second speaker and stereo sound, larger Taptic engine, greater water resistance, etc., and you substitute your theory that they did it primarily to sell dongles and Airbuds. That bit of fake news was pretty completely debunked when Apple gave everyone a free dongle and free lightning equipped Earbuds, and for the rare individual who lost their adapter or wanted a second one, Apple sold them at a, get ready, outrageous $9.00

One more thing, you can thank Apple for leading the industry away from the dated 3.5mm port so we can use more capable ports like lightning. I'm sure you silently thought "thank you Apple" when you saw this announcement the other day from Pioneer.

https://9to5mac.com/2017/02/14/pioneer-smart-lightning-headphones/

Yes, those 3.5mm plugs worked fine for over a hundred years, but they certainly aren't capable of new smart features that industry leader Pioneer is able to introduce only because as they point out "Rayz and Rayz Plus blend the intelligence of an iOS app with innovative Lightning accessories to deliver completely new experiences not possible through the 3.5mm headphone jack." Yes, this is why Samsung and others are rumored to be furiously working on removing the 3.5 jack from their new smartphones now that Apple has shown the way.

Don't worry, Tim Cook and the rest of his leadership team aren't going to rub your nose in it, they are too humble for that, but a nice apologetic email to them would be nice.

 

[Analog Kid]

Wireless pad will only be useful if it's like this one

A flat one is pointless imo

I wouldn't put that anywhere I had to look at it... Maybe in the basement or laundry room, but I don't need to wake up, roll over, and read "Samsung Fast Charge" every morning. Write that on the packaging so people know what they're buying, but why put it in high contrast printing on the device itself? Do people forget what they bought it for?

 

[ValO]

Apple strategy.
Year 1: Don't include inductive charging because it's the same as everybody else's doing.
Year 2: Rumour that they have market disrupting new wireless charging technology in development
Year 3: Cut off new technology last minute because it's not quite ready and go for inductive charging anyway.

Yes, but no one else has ios.
So it would be a welcome addition to the iphone for me. Better than using lightning for charging.

 

[applepuree]

As most/a lot of new cars are coming with QI inductive charging, it will be a mistake if Apple doesn't support QI somehow.

 

[Chrjy]

It's still early but many people feel we're gonna get both at the same time.

Or rather, they think we're getting 2 completely different models and for simplicity's sake we're calling them the 7S and the 8 just so we can have conversations. That may not be what either one is called.

So you can guess where Apple might go with the iPhone in terms of naming. I think they'll use the iPhone Pro for these new glass, inductive or wireless charging devices, they may drop the numbers altogether

 

[lowercaseperson]

I would consider launching a "mat charger" and absolute embarrassment for Apple.

However, we all said the same thing about launching an iPhone with 16gb of storage for 3 years before they finally coalesced.

 

[Everlast66]

Apple should have just made a MagSafe type connector instead of the Lightning connector, when they migrated, and be done with it.
Wireless charging has no advantages over MagSafe. Wireless charging is slower, you still have to put your phone on a pad that's connected to the wall, at the same time it is not phisically attached so a slight accidental nudge can knock it to the ground. While a magnetic connector will have all the benefits of physical connector, but at the same time detach automatically if someone trips in the cable or sits on the phone if left on a bed or something.

 

[Count Blah]

I hope Apple removes the lightening plug, seals the whole thing, and goes with proprietary wireless charging. That way, at least some of the people laughing with glee over the removal of the 3.5mm plug, would feel the pain as well.

 

[Smcooney]

Does anyone know if wireless charging does end up being a thing, would the phone still have a lightening port? Thinking about my non-wireless CarPlay...

 

[Breaking Good]

We're getting some heavyyyy rumors and we're over 6 months away from launch.

Gonna be a hell of a year.

There were rumors about the iPhone 8 before the iPhone 7 was even released.

 

[joy.757]

'Customised'. So probably won't work with other brands/devices. Smh.

 

[Sonmi451]

It's amusing how when something is said (not meaning anyone here) regarding Apple it is often said in a way that sounds like they are the first to do something.

I don't follow other manufacturers to know what they are doing. Nor do I care who is first. I just want a cool phone by Apple.

 

[JGRE]

Sounds like a propretary standard is exactly what Apple will do. Do you really see them using a widely available Qi standard and allowing people to buy third party chargers, giving up all that extra revenue? No way.

I didn't want to give you a 'like', because I hate the answer........but sadly soooooo true.
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Alright, Im gonna ask a potentially stupid question here.

Why is everybody talking about the iPhone 8. Isn't it iPhone 7s that is up next?

10th year anniversary this year and the in China '7' is not a lucky number; so straight to the '8'.
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Does anyone know if wireless charging does end up being a thing, would the phone still have a lightening port? Thinking about my non-wireless CarPlay...

Yes, the lightning port is still used for the headphones as the headphone jack is gone. Hope we will go bluetooth in future and loose the port. The one thing I do not like about Apple is the cables, they always break, so I would be happy with wireless charging and bluethooth headsets

 

[Naraxus]

It's also odd that you reject Apple's explanation that switching from the legacy 3.5mm plug freed up room for a larger battery, new second speaker and stereo sound, larger Taptic engine, greater water resistance, etc., and you substitute your theory that they did it primarily to sell dongles and Airbuds.

I reject Apple's propaganda for the mullarkey that it is. Apple's asinine obsession with thinness has come back to bite them in the ass. Apple wouldn't have to remove ports from it's products if it weren't so focused on making things thinner. It could have had a bigger battery, larger taptic engine, second speaker if they made the case slightly larger instead of insulting the intelligence of its customers by removing the jack and calling it "Courageous". And let's not start with the lie that they had to remove the jack to make it water resistant.

One more thing, you can thank Apple for leading the industry away from the dated 3.5mm port so we can use more capable ports like lightning.

You mean the connection that nobody else other than Apple is using? el oh el.

 

[Analog Kid]

Apple should have just made a MagSafe type connector instead of the Lightning connector, when they migrated, and be done with it.
Wireless charging has no advantages over MagSafe. Wireless charging is slower, you still have to put your phone on a pad that's connected to the wall, at the same time it is not phisically attached so a slight accidental nudge can knock it to the ground. While a magnetic connector will have all the benefits of physical connector, but at the same time detach automatically if someone trips in the cable or sits on the phone if left on a bed or something.

And would make it easier to seal the housing...

 

[jhwalker]

A future version of the iPhone could use a customized wireless charging system created in partnership with Broadcom, according to JPMorgan analyst Harlan Sur (via CNBC).

While Apple and Broadcom have reportedly been working together on a wireless charging solution for approximately two years, Sur is not sure whether the feature will be included in the 2017 iPhone due to "caution around the battery-related recall" of the Samsung Galaxy Note 7.

Despite Harlan's caution, the upcoming 2017 "iPhone 8" is widely rumored to include some kind of wireless charging solution, but details on how it is being implemented and whether or not Apple is working with a partner like Broadcom remain unknown at this time.

iPhone 8 concept image via Thadeu Brandão​

Past rumors have suggested wireless charging partnerships and supplier deals with Lite-On Semiconductor, MediaTek, Foxconn, Pegatron, and Luxshare, making it difficult to suss out Apple's wireless charging plans.

Harlan's research note also echoes previous rumors pointing towards a glass body for future iPhones, which many analysts believe is being implemented to facilitate wireless charging.Early wireless charging rumors suggested Apple would use a long-range wireless charging solution, but more recent speculation suggests the company may instead opt for an Apple Watch-style inductive charging solution. A glass body, as is rumored, would be necessary for an inductive charging option, and Apple also recently joined the Wireless Power Consortium, a group committed to the open development of the Qi wireless charging standard used in devices like the Samsung Galaxy.

Along with wireless charging, Apple's 2017 iPhone is rumored to include a radical redesign, featuring the aforementioned glass body and an edge-to-edge ~5-inch OLED display that eliminates the device's Home button. Rumors suggest this device will be positioned as a high-end "premium" model that could cost upwards of $1,000, and most sources believe it will be sold alongside two more affordable 4.7 and 5.5-inch devices that resemble the iPhone 7 and the iPhone 7 Plus.

Rumors disagree on exactly what material the two regular-sized devices will be made from, and whether or not they will include wireless charging as well.

For full details on what to expect from the flagship OLED iPhone 8 and its two companion devices, make sure to check out our dedicated iPhone 8 roundup, which is updated regularly with new rumors.

Article Link: Future iPhone May Use Customized Wireless Charging System Made in Partnership with Broadcom

I see not advantage to wireless charging if it still depends on sitting on a specially designed device.

Please let me know when it's via broadcast, anywhere in my house / car within range.

 

[ValO]

It would be much easier just to say that their strategy is to investigate multiple solutions and pick the one that works.

You could also think about the fact the long range wireless charging is not in the iphone itself. So the inductive charging is built into the iphone, but the wireless long range charging will be done in the charging pad/matt.
So when apple finally releases a long range wireless charging matt, it will work with the iphone 7s/8/x, you would just have to buy the pad/matt. So for now you can enjoy inductive charging with a cabled matt/pad and when tech is ready, you can enjoy wireless charging without a cabled matt/pad.
A year after apple will release a case which acts as a base station.

No way this tech will be in the phone itself for the next 3 years.

 

[Count Blah]

Does anyone know if wireless charging does end up being a thing, would the phone still have a lightening port? Thinking about my non-wireless CarPlay...

I REALLY hope not. I was to hear the crying.

 

[truthertech]

I reject Apple's propaganda for the mullarkey that it is. Apple's asinine obsession with thinness has come back to bite them in the ass. Apple wouldn't have to remove ports from it's products if it weren't so focused on making things thinner. It could have had a bigger battery, larger taptic engine, second speaker if they made the case slightly larger instead of insulting the intelligence of its customers by removing the jack and calling it "Courageous". And let's not start with the lie that they had to remove the jack to make it water resistant.

That bit of fake news was pretty completely debunked when Apple gave everyone a free dongle and free lightning equipped Earbuds, and for the rare individual who lost their adapter or wanted a second one, Apple sold them at an, get ready, outrageous $9.00

As for thinner, stop and let the steam from your Apple rant dissipate a bit so you can realize that this is more fake news you're spreading, since they didn't make the iPhone 7 thinner. It is the same thickness. LOL.

And, now we see that Samsung and HTC and maybe Google are all going to remove the 3.5mm port. So maybe that's what Phil meant by courage. The others wanted to, but they were afraid to and waited until Apple showed the way.

And, again when you stop and let your blood pressure go down, you'll realize how foolish it is to say that Apple got "bit in the ass" with the iPhone 7 or any other model. They've now sold over 1.2 billion, yes that's the big B, of iOS devices and the iPhone 7 just set an all time record with nearly 80 million sold in one quarter, and they are still having problems keeping them in stock. There are a lot people now predicting the iPhone 8 may sell 100 million in its first quarter.

Have a quieter Sunday for your own health. Life is too short to be so angry at a tech company because they put in or take out a particular part. Instead, celebrate the joy of imperfect, but insanely great products!

 

[elmaco]

Apple should look at technology like this
https://singularityhub.com/2017/02/...oom-and-it-will-wirelessly-charge-your-phone/

five years ago, and they would have something to put into iPhone 8.

Now we will most likely get pad-charging.