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Why "England-based" ? Generally, we refer to our nation as the UK.
I used to do the same as you but after the Scottish referendum and the Welsh always waving that flag with the reptile on at every opportunity and slagging off the nation that has paid for their standard of living for centuries and protected their freedom I say England now. And the sooner we get rid of the whinging Celts (I think that's how it's spelt} the better.
 
I see no need for 4K in a phone because human eyes cannot resolve it
It might educate Cook (Ive, Schiller or other product ad-interim) about the potential for a MacBook Pro - if they haven't switched to Dell themselves yet...
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I wish the iPhones could run normally for more than a year or two after buying it. My iPhone 6Plus can take 10 or more seconds to react to pressing the home button. Typically I wake it up on my home wifi to use it and it begins updating apps, slowing down it's response.
And your own reaction time for activating automatic updates isn't disappointing ?
 
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Soon they will outperform MacBook pros :p

And hopefully that will get Intel to sort their act out.


It's not incompetence or illogic, it's a planned decision to maximise profits. It's not customer first , it's profits first

Profits first would cause Apple to fail. Apple is doing the opposite of failing. I don't think a profits first company can survive in the mianstream tech industry as it's so cut throat.

- A profits first company wouldn't ditch the global leader in mapping, spend millions developing their own solution all because the market leader wanted access to their customer info.
- A profits first company wouldn't develop tiered batteries for their laptops when uniform ones would do.
- A profits first company wouldn't used pricier materials for their products when much cheaper versions exist.
- A profits first company wouldn't invest in renewable energy (a move which will hurt the ROI)
- A profit first company would not invest industry leading in Accessibilty features which are low ROI.

Etc, etc.

A profit first iPhone wouldn't improve incrementally year over year, it would stagnate. But as far as I can see they seem to improve pretty much every aspect from the screen, memory, storage materials etc.

I would love to hear how/why you think they are profit first. People like you fail to realise how high customer satisfaction is with Apple users compared to a large percentage of the market, you fail to see how they sell out of their main product lines upon new releases. These things wouldn't occur in a profits first company. Customers would quicjkly feel tired of being ripped off and would move on. As far as I can see that isn't happening.
 
Is there a dumber idea than a 4k display on a phone?

As in, why would you do that when you could just save power with a regular display?

I suspect those obsessed with 'keeping up with the Jones' care little for logic, it's all about "I have..." lol
 
Is there a dumber idea than a 4k display on a phone?

As in, why would you do that when you could just save power with a regular display?
I don't think the focus would be for the phone display. An HDMI adapter to a 4K TV with a MFI controller is where this could be used more realistically for gaming or it could just be used for media playback too. The iPhone camera can already record 4K video anyway.
 
Gotta laugh at people like you who say they're incompetent yet you have an account on a forum only for Apple LOL

But the two are unconnected. One can be interested in Apple products yet disappointed in how they have progressed under current management. Participating in MR forums doesn't equate to mandatory Apple cheer leading even when they feel its the wrong direction... or no direction.

I've been hooked on Apple products since the first Apple II hit my middle school -- yes a long time ago. Even in Apple's darkest days I stuck with Apple -- but I did not care for the horrible management then, esp Amelio and Spindler. See how that works - you can love the company, hate the management? Same is true today. I'm not a huge fan of TC. I think he is a bean counter, not a technologist. He doesn't really care about making insanely great products, just boosting Apple's top and bottom line.
 
How exactly do current iPhones not support 4K graphics already?

They don't have a 4K display, and they may not have the GPU performance to render photorealistic graphics at 4K, but they can still technically draw 3D graphics to a 4K frame buffer, no?

Sony Xperia Premium released early 2016 has full 4K display and it upscaled qhd resolution for Android and games but youtube videos where scarces at the time.
 
I don't think the focus would be for the phone display. An HDMI adapter to a 4K TV with a MFI controller is where this could be used more realistically for gaming or it could just be used for media playback too. The iPhone camera can already record 4K video anyway.
Good points. I forgot about the 4K camera in the iPhone. I assume that, currently, if you airplay using an iPhone that 1080 is the best resolution you would get even if the video and the TV were both 4K or am I mistaken?
 
Makes sense, unless of course at some point we start using phones to drive larger 4K display for movies and such. I think one day we won't have Apple TV-type boxes, laptops, desktops etc. but instead a host device (a phone) that connects to whatever peripheral we need for a certain application, i.e. a real keyboard, larger display, movie screen, etc.

Yes, but that day isn't here yet - so the point stands. Apple shouldn't waste its profits on a feature that only a very small minority (VR fans who want to use a phone as their display).
 
Not sure this is important in a phone other then to jack up the base price of iPhones.

Where I would focus is on improving gaming on the iPad now that Nintendo has entered the tablet game. I mean the Switch is a one trick pony, no real threat there, but if iPad's offered the ability to play AAA game titles, for reals, with Bluetooth control support AND can airplay those games on 4K TV's that would go a long way to keep iPad relevant. I mean I would easily upgrade my iPad if it could do a lot more then let me fling birds at wooden structures and supported a new generation of real games.

Since Apple has missed the mark making iPad a professional tool, double up on making it a great entertainment platform by supporting a new generation of near game console capable graphics and features. Hell, if iPad could even drive VR then that would be a huge win for Apple to help this limping platform
 
I'd love to see Apple prioritize the Apple TV with this chip. Charge us an extra $50. They'll need to do that to recoup the extra $5 it'll cost to do it. I know this won't happen, but I'd love a highly powered Apple TV now. Maybe by 2019 they'll actually manage it. If we are lucky.
 
Since Apple has missed the mark making iPad a professional tool, double up on making it a great entertainment platform by supporting a new generation of near game console capable graphics and features. Hell, if iPad could even drive VR then that would be a huge win for Apple to help this limping platform

Two thoughts:
1. Apple hasn't "missed the mark making iPad a professional tool" I regular use my professionally, from reading documents to preparing documents / presentations, accessing email, and conducting on line research. It won't replace my Mac but is a good and useful adjunct for when I don't wan to carry my Mac.

2. While adding more gaming features would be a plus it would require, as you point out adding external controller capability which makes the iPad no longer a hand held device but simply a display or console if you use Airplay. I think Apple should make the ATV into a better gaming platform since its form factor already is as a console. Ideally the iPad and ATV would gain the capabilities concurrently so there is a large user base for programmers to target and hence more likely to develop games for the platform. This would also help make the ATV more popular and move it in the hub direction Apple seems to be going.
 
I'd love to see Apple prioritize the Apple TV with this chip. Charge us an extra $50. They'll need to do that to recoup the extra $5 it'll cost to do it. I know this won't happen, but I'd love a highly powered Apple TV now. Maybe by 2019 they'll actually manage it. If we are lucky.
It's not a chip (per se) it's an architecture. Apple for years has been leading the competition in the GPU field by licensing this company's design and making custom tweaks to suite their desires. I wouldn't expect them to change this process at all, other than doing even more tweaking in house on top of the work Imagination Technologies has been doing.
 
It's not a chip (per se) it's an architecture. Apple for years has been leading the competition in the GPU field by licensing this company's design and making custom tweaks to suite their desires. I wouldn't expect them to change this process at all, other than doing even more tweaking in house on top of the work Imagination Technologies has been doing.

Ok, I'll rephrase: "I'd love to see Apple prioritize the Apple TV with this architecture."
 
I may wrong about this, but doesn't the retina display already come with a higher pixel density than a 4k panel?
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What Apple computers?

Ah yes, that computer product line that Apple have neglected!
 
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Do you understand anything about chip performance in the mobile space?
Yes I do. I know Apple's A-series are a little faster than others. But I also know that imagination GPU's aren't apple's own technology and are used by a wide range of mobile manufacturers. So if Apple does adapt this particular GPU others will use it too and are most often faster in adopting new technology than Apple.
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Oh I think that's definitely on the way. The Apple TV is poised to be a major gaming platform.
About time. All others already deliver 4K at the fraction of the price of Apple TV.
 
Yes I do. I know Apple's A-series are a little faster than others. But I also know that imagination GPU's aren't apple's own technology and are used by a wide range of mobile manufacturers. So if Apple does adapt this particular GPU others will use it too and are most often faster in adopting new technology than Apple.
That's a rather verbose way of saying "I don't understand that Apple has always been in the lead adopting GPU technology into it's A series processors by licensing the newest plans from Imagination Technology and tweaking them to their liking".

Apple has ALWAYS been ahead in GPU performance in the mobile space.
 
....Apple has been in the lead in adopting PowerVR GPU's for the last 6 years, at least. :rolleyes:
I won't argue Apple is latest in chips and performance however the day to day user won't notice if one handset is a second faster than the other. What they do notice is screen, camera and is functions.
 
I won't argue Apple is latest in chips and performance however the day to day user won't notice if one handset is a second faster than the other. What they do notice is screen, camera and is functions.
When it comes to GPU heavy tasks, they notice.
 
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