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Future iPhones Could Use Samsung's Industry-First LPDDR5 DRAM

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Samsung today announced it has completed functional testing and validation of the industry's first 10-nanometer class 8-gigabit LPDDR5 DRAM.

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Samsung says the prototype chip boasts a data rate of up to 6.4 Gbps, which is 1.5 times as fast as the LPDDR4X DRAM used in the iPhone X and other flagship smartphones. The chip also features an all-new sleep mode and other features that reduce power consumption by up to 30 percent.

AnandTech has a good overview of the chip's technical details, but from a higher level, this development could result in future iPhones having even faster, yet even more efficient, memory. That would translate to maximized performance and extended battery life, which is good news all around.

Samsung said it plans to begin mass production of its next-generation DRAM lineups, including this LPDDR5 DRAM chip, but didn't specify when. LPDDR5 is said to be so cutting edge that the JEDEC standards group has not yet finalized the specifications for it, so it could take some time.

Apple currently sources DRAM from multiple suppliers, including Samsung, SK Hynix, and Micron, varying by iPhone model.

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Samsung just announced it today and it won't ship for several months. Highly unlikely it'll make it into a phone that's just about to go into production in the next couple weeks for a September launch.

While these 10nm-class 8gb LPDDR5 DRAM chips are not yet available to manufacturers, Samsung hopes to begin mass-production soon.
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Falhófnir said:
Yet again Samsung pushes the industry forward whilst any meaningful development Apple does is patented and locked down not to be shared with anyone...
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Looks like the strategy is working pretty well for the most valuable and profitable company in the world...

But no, they should change their strategy to the highly capital intensive and low margin hardware manufacturing business...lol.
 
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OldSchoolMacGuy said:
Samsung just announced it today and it won't ship for several months. Highly unlikely it'll make it into a phone that's just about to go into production in the next couple weeks for a September launch.
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From the article I’m thinking this would go in the 2019 iPhone at the earliest.
 
Baymowe335 said:
Looks like the strategy is working pretty well for the most valuable profitable company in the world...

But no, they should change their strategy to the highly capital intensive and low margin hardware manufacturing business...lol.
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The consumer is better served by the success of an industry rather than the success of a specific company. No one's disputing Apple's success story, but I'm still surprised how people seem to value Apple's interests above their own personal interests as consumers.
 
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Falhófnir said:
Yet again Samsung pushes the industry forward whilst any meaningful development Apple does is patented and locked down not to be shared with anyone...
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When it comes to component R&D/design/manufacture Samsung are a beast. Samsung mobile and Samsung electronics however are two entirely different entities and only the former compete, or are comparable with Apple. I don’t think Apple want to run their own heavy manufacturing plant. They source that stuff elsewhere (like Samsung, for example)
 
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Baymowe335 said:
Looks like the strategy is working pretty well for the most valuable profitable company in the world...

But no, they should change their strategy to the highly capital intensive and low margin hardware manufacturing business...lol.
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sesnir said:
Do you think Samsung is giving this stuff away for free? It's their product to sell.
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But where would Apple be without Samsung developing and selling technologies that benefit the whole industry - having to develop it off their own back they certainly wouldn’t make half as much money.

Randall2018 said:
If you don’t like Apple why are you on an Apple rumors site?
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Who ever said that? I enjoy their products, I just think Samsung are a great company developing exciting new things while Apple just seem to want to suck profits and sit on manufacturers like Samsung to increase those profits more.
 
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Baymowe335 said:
But no, they should change their strategy to the highly capital intensive and low margin hardware manufacturing business...lol.
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Or, just give the tech away, which Samsung must be doing, as the poster makes them sound like a benevolent entity.

(Aside, Apple is a little fish when dealing with patents. And others wield their patent stick pretty hard as well:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_top_United_States_patent_recipients
https://www.engadget.com/2018/07/17/ibm-groupon-patent-lawsuit/)
 
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NightFox said:
The consumer is better served by the success of an industry rather than the success of a specific company. No one's disputing Apple's success story, but I'm still surprised how people seem to value Apple's interests above their own personal interests as consumers.
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Apple pushes the industry forward in other ways, like oh I don't know, inventing the modern smartphone? FaceID? Many companies, developers, etc are successful and have jobs because of Apple.

Apple's contribution to the economy is bigger than any single company.

I am long AAPL, so I do have a personal interest in the success of the company, but it doesn't change reality either. Apple powers entire industries.
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Falhófnir said:
But where would Apple be without Samsung developing and selling technologies that benefit the whole industry - having to develop it off their own back they certainly wouldn’t make half as much money.


Who ever said that? I enjoy their products, I just think Samsung are a great company developing exciting new things while Apple just seem to want to suck profits and sit on manufacturers like Samsung to increase those profits more.
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Probably using another supplier.
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NoBoMac said:
Or, just give the tech away, which Samsung must be doing, as the poster makes them sound like a benevolent entity.

(Aside, Apple is a little fish when dealing with patents. And others wield their patent stick pretty hard as well:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_top_United_States_patent_recipients
https://www.engadget.com/2018/07/17/ibm-groupon-patent-lawsuit/)
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Exactly. Samsung is paid handsomely for their contribution. It's just Samsung has all the capital risk.
 
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NightFox said:
The consumer is better served by the success of an industry rather than the success of a specific company. No one's disputing Apple's success story, but I'm still surprised how people seem to value Apple's interests above their own personal interests as consumers.
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What would you have Apple do?
 
Baymowe335 said:
Looks like the strategy is working pretty well for the most valuable profitable company in the world...

But no, they should change their strategy to the highly capital intensive and low margin hardware manufacturing business...lol.
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Sounds like the game is broken to me, if Samsung gets so little reward for all they do, while Apple reaps so much for doing so little.
 
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ArtOfWarfare said:
Sounds like the game is broken to me, if Samsung gets so little reward for all they do, while Apple reaps so much for doing so little.
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It's capitalism. Samsung doesn't have the same stranglehold on the smartphone market, so they make components like screens and chips (and do so very well). There is still money to be made here, like in any industry, but not as much as Apple makes.

Basically, every company wants to be Apple, but they can't. That doesn't mean no others companies should do what they do to make money. There are low and high margin businesses. Some businesses are easier than others.

Apple's strategy is absolutely brilliant. No capital investment to run the company because they use suppliers for everything and can leave at any time.
 
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Baymowe335 said:
It's capitalism. Samsung doesn't have the same stranglehold on the smartphone market, so they make components like screens and chips (and do so very well).
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How true. For example, the memory business had a bad quarter and only turned a 14.8 trillion Won profit. That's $13.2 billion.

Feenician said:
I got so heated about it, it steamed up my LCD Display.
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Which could very well be a Samsung panel. :p
 
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