The whole point to capitalism is to find new ways to do things better. You could argue that is why Apple released a better face scanner than Samsung.
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Future iPhones Could Use Samsung's Industry-First LPDDR5 DRAM
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I believe in those things too, which is why I believe corporations have to be reined in by laws so we aren't just trusting them to do the right thing...
I'm hoping this leads to more RAM in upcoming iOS devices—specifically iPads. Lower power states could help offset the additional power draw that adding more RAM seems to have. The battery life right now is already good enough and will still improve with more efficient processors and larger capacity batteries.
More power and less power consumption for mobile device is welcome news. Let's see when it will go into production but I don't expect to see it on iPhones this Fall but then again, Apple surprised us with the new MBPs.
And yet Apple does develop much of it off their own back (CPUS, SoCs, soon Modems) so I guess they could be making even more if they just used off-the-shelf components like all the Android manufacturers do. Of course, that would impact on what makes the iPhone and iOS desirable from a performance and integration angle, so maybe not as many people would buy them as they were no longer different enough to justify purchasing them, in which case Apple would definitely make less money.
Well Samsung does manufacture their own custom ARM CPUs like Apple does (the Exynos line) and to my knowledge they do not offer them to other Android manufacturers.
Apple buying into the consortium that took over Toshiba is likely more to insulate them from wild fluctuations in DDR memory as opposed to having to buy on the open market.
I guess it is a business focus, I just feel Apple are more prone to taking what Samsung has enabled through investment than offering back, particularly as far as developing things like RAM, OLED, SSD storage go. At the end of the day it’s a free market and they can do as they want - I just lament that the industry could probably accelerate ahead and keep prices lower if there was more working together.
True to say, though the chip market is quite saturated and Qualcomm have a pretty tight stranglehold (I guess it might be about Samsung not stepping on their toes as much as anything as they seem to have issues with manufacturing the quantity of exynos they need, or else international licensing or certification as the exynos phones tend to be limited to Asia).
On that particular issue I’m hoping with a more secure hold on pricing Apple will move to 512GB SSDs standard on their 15” pro line, it would make the £2,349 starting price a less bitter pill to swallow if I didn’t have to take another step up to the £2,699 stock model or go for a BTO (I’m reluctant on the BTO as a walk-in machine swap isn’t possible if something goes wrong - it’s a case of ordering a new one in!)
For the industry as a whole I think if they can get 512GB SSDs down to where 256GB is today, traditional HDDs will probably start dropping right back to the very low end of laptops, desktops and as additional storage for gaming and high end machines rather than being the primary drive.
JEDEC develops the standards for memory (DDR5, in this case) with input from its members, which include Samsung and *gasp* APPLE - https://www.jedec.org/about-jedec/member-list - and as such, none of us know what Apple or Samsung contributed to the specification. I would expect that Samsung, along with SK Hynix, Micron, Rambus and others have a greater amount of input as they design, develop and manufacture the memory modules.
The last paragraph of the press release - "Samsung, together with leading global chip vendors, has completed functional testing and validation of a prototype 8GB LPDDR5 DRAM package, which is comprised of eight 8Gb LPDDR5 chips. Leveraging the cutting-edge manufacturing infrastructure at its latest line in Pyeongtaek, Korea, Samsung plans to begin mass production of its next-generation DRAM lineups (LPDDR5, DDR5 and GDDR6) in line with the demands of global customers." - https://news.samsung.com/global/sam...ram-for-5g-and-ai-powered-mobile-applications - so this is not just Samsung pushing the industry forward.
I expect Apple to embrace LPDDR5 in its mobile devices as as soon as the DDR5 specification is finalized. Apple currently uses LPDDR4/x and has since the iPhone 6s and iPad Pro 12.9-inch (2015).
It is a shame that in the year 2018, Intel only has one CPU capable of running with LPDDR4/x almost five (5) years after the specification was released - https://www.jedec.org/news/pressreleases/jedec-releases-lpddr4-standard-low-power-memory-devices
You really seem to be going out of your way to slam Apple on a story in which they are only tangentially involved. Also, Samsung is not exactly a charity or a philanthropic organization, but I digress.
that was my thought as well. Just by Samsung stuff if that is what the poster likes.
Well once Intel releases Cannon Lake next year we'll at least be able to get LPDDR4 (I was a bit surprised, if pleasantly, that Apple decided to take the battery life hit and go with DDR4 on Coffee Lake, though the higher density pack may alleviate most of that hit).
Well I'm an AAPL shareholder and can tell you that they essentially bought me a car last year so there goes that theory of yours. All major tech companies hoard earnings offshore to avoid excessive U.S. corporate taxation. Apple has now brought back their many billions ahead of others so you're wrong there too.
Meanwhile, many design and technology developments that Apple has spent billions on, have been stolen by many companies including Samsung (i.e., patent trial that Samsung admitted to theft and settled with Apple) so one could argue that Apple has offered more than most other tech companies.
In addition, Apple has shared many innovations, white papers and research with open source community for AI, security and cloud developments.
Chip technology is definitely patented, and it's probably the most patentable tech, which is not a bad thing.
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What makes you think Apple is doing less than Samsung?
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Lol. Like Samsung doesn’t patent its ram.
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/re...ery_txt=An/Samsung+dram&submit=&patents_us=on
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Swift, WebKit, carekit, FireWire, thunderbolt, ...
Half this site's news is about Samsung and other competitors. There are even articles that have nothing to do with Apple, which people complain about, but I don't feel strongly either way.
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It's like the dude in a corp running the Nginx webserver saying he's so important because the developers depend on him, but he's actually easily replaced by anyone in India (hyperbole), many of the higher-paid employees, and the intersection of those two.
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Samsung and the other two RAM manufactures are about to get sued for price fixing global RAM pricing, and have all paid fines in the past for doing it. Lets not suddenly make it sound like Samsung is some godsend here. Apple is a product company, Samsung is a manufacture, if they fall behind on NAND production they will probably lose half their business. They don't do any software at all like Apple so I really don't know what people like you are so quick to draw a comparison just to claw at Apple every chance you get.
BTW, Apples current lineup of computers is **** so I ain't no fanboy either.
If hoarding the most money is the only metric by which you define success then yes, they're doing an amazing job. There are plenty of "successful" companies that have come into that money by doing mediocre (and sometimes even unethical) things.
Point is, money as a measure of success doesn't always tell the full story.
Yeah. It’s nice to know Samsung is doing this out of the kindness of its heart and isn’t going to make billions and billions of dollars selling RAM to companies and people...
Well, the CEO of even the worst, most hated company probably makes more money than anyone in this forum. So I guess that CEO is doing something right? And don't give me that "but Apple makes more money" response because that is just another "my dad can beat up your dad" argument.
Sorry for the confusion. And incorrect number. Q1, Samsung memory unit had 17.33 trillion Won ($15.3B) in revenue, with 11.5 trillion Won in profit for entire semi division, which is $10.2B
https://images.samsung.com/is/content/samsung/p5/global/ir/docs/2018_1Q_conference_eng.pdf