Future iPhones Could Use Samsung's Industry-First LPDDR5 DRAM

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    Samsung today announced it has completed functional testing and validation of the industry's first 10-nanometer class 8-gigabit LPDDR5 DRAM.

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    Samsung says the prototype chip boasts a data rate of up to 6.4 Gbps, which is 1.5 times as fast as the LPDDR4X DRAM used in the iPhone X and other flagship smartphones. The chip also features an all-new sleep mode and other features that reduce power consumption by up to 30 percent.

    AnandTech has a good overview of the chip's technical details, but from a higher level, this development could result in future iPhones having even faster, yet even more efficient, memory. That would translate to maximized performance and extended battery life, which is good news all around.

    Samsung said it plans to begin mass production of its next-generation DRAM lineups, including this LPDDR5 DRAM chip, but didn't specify when. LPDDR5 is said to be so cutting edge that the JEDEC standards group has not yet finalized the specifications for it, so it could take some time.

    Apple currently sources DRAM from multiple suppliers, including Samsung, SK Hynix, and Micron, varying by iPhone model.

    Article Link: Future iPhones Could Use Samsung's Industry-First LPDDR5 DRAM
     
  2. OldSchoolMacGuy Suspended

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    Samsung just announced it today and it won't ship for several months. Highly unlikely it'll make it into a phone that's just about to go into production in the next couple weeks for a September launch.

     
  3. Baymowe335 macrumors 68020

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    It says future iPhones, not necessarily 2018.
     
  4. Falhófnir macrumors 68020

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    Yet again Samsung pushes the industry forward whilst any meaningful development Apple does is patented and locked down not to be shared with anyone...
     
  5. Baymowe335, Jul 17, 2018
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    Looks like the strategy is working pretty well for the most valuable and profitable company in the world...

    But no, they should change their strategy to the highly capital intensive and low margin hardware manufacturing business...lol.
     
  6. Randall2018 Suspended

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    From the article I’m thinking this would go in the 2019 iPhone at the earliest.
     
  7. sesnir macrumors 6502

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    Do you think Samsung is giving this stuff away for free? It's their product to sell.
     
  8. Randall2018 Suspended

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    If you don’t like Apple why are you on an Apple rumors site?
     
  9. NightFox macrumors 68020

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    The consumer is better served by the success of an industry rather than the success of a specific company. No one's disputing Apple's success story, but I'm still surprised how people seem to value Apple's interests above their own personal interests as consumers.
     
  10. Feenician macrumors 601

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    When it comes to component R&D/design/manufacture Samsung are a beast. Samsung mobile and Samsung electronics however are two entirely different entities and only the former compete, or are comparable with Apple. I don’t think Apple want to run their own heavy manufacturing plant. They source that stuff elsewhere (like Samsung, for example)
     
  11. NightFox macrumors 68020

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    You don't have to like a company to like its products, and you don't have to like either to take an interest and have an opinion.
     
  12. Bacillus macrumors 68020

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    Indeed, Apple shouldn't be criticised.
    They are so innovative with Samsung components.
     
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  14. Falhófnir macrumors 68020

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    But where would Apple be without Samsung developing and selling technologies that benefit the whole industry - having to develop it off their own back they certainly wouldn’t make half as much money.

    Who ever said that? I enjoy their products, I just think Samsung are a great company developing exciting new things while Apple just seem to want to suck profits and sit on manufacturers like Samsung to increase those profits more.
     
  15. Feenician macrumors 601

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    ATM Machine :D
     
  16. NoBoMac macrumors 68000

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    Or, just give the tech away, which Samsung must be doing, as the poster makes them sound like a benevolent entity.

    (Aside, Apple is a little fish when dealing with patents. And others wield their patent stick pretty hard as well:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_top_United_States_patent_recipients
    https://www.engadget.com/2018/07/17/ibm-groupon-patent-lawsuit/)
     
  17. Baymowe335 macrumors 68020

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    Apple pushes the industry forward in other ways, like oh I don't know, inventing the modern smartphone? FaceID? Many companies, developers, etc are successful and have jobs because of Apple.

    Apple's contribution to the economy is bigger than any single company.

    I am long AAPL, so I do have a personal interest in the success of the company, but it doesn't change reality either. Apple powers entire industries.
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    Probably using another supplier.
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    Exactly. Samsung is paid handsomely for their contribution. It's just Samsung has all the capital risk.
     
  18. pete2106 macrumors 6502

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    What would you have Apple do?
     
  19. ArtOfWarfare macrumors G3

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    Sounds like the game is broken to me, if Samsung gets so little reward for all they do, while Apple reaps so much for doing so little.
     
  20. digitalexplr macrumors 6502

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    You clearly have no clue has to how the industry works.
     
  21. Joe Rossignol Editor

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    Gbpspspspspspspspspspspspspspsps.

    Whoops, though, my mistake. Fixed that. I promise I'm not trying to come up with a new RAS syndrome example.
     
  22. Baymowe335 macrumors 68020

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    It's capitalism. Samsung doesn't have the same stranglehold on the smartphone market, so they make components like screens and chips (and do so very well). There is still money to be made here, like in any industry, but not as much as Apple makes.

    Basically, every company wants to be Apple, but they can't. That doesn't mean no others companies should do what they do to make money. There are low and high margin businesses. Some businesses are easier than others.

    Apple's strategy is absolutely brilliant. No capital investment to run the company because they use suppliers for everything and can leave at any time.
     
  23. Feenician macrumors 601

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    I got so heated about it, it steamed up my LCD Display.
     
  24. wigby macrumors 65816

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    I must have missed the part where Samsung open sourced this technology to the tech industry for free. You're not entirely wrong but find a better example.
     
  25. NoBoMac macrumors 68000

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    How true. For example, the memory business had a bad quarter and only turned a 14.8 trillion Won profit. That's $13.2 billion.

    Which could very well be a Samsung panel. :p
     

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