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OLED panels are often thinner

Oh, thank God! Already having major back problems carrying my new .7mm thick MacBook pro!

Don't worry. Next year Apple will announce the Paper thin MacBook Pro.

The keyboard and screen will each be the thickness of a piece of paper.

The only sacrifice will be ports, battery life, and durability.

It can be neatly folded along its crease lines and placed in your pocket. Be aware that wrinkling it does void the warranty and will likely cause it to develop system failure.

Battery life will be in the area of 1 hour (not much space for a battery). Recharging is accomplished by sliding the charging adapter into the microscopic and nearly invisible charging port. The adapter itself is only the thickness of a human hair. Care must be taken to avoid split ends or bending of the power connector.

The amazing new paper thin MacBook Pro will only be $3599. AppleCare will be available to cover all accidental damage at the bargain price of $12,000, covering unlimited repairs for 3 years.

Aftermarket protective cases are available from Pee Chee folders.
 
they probably won't update it for another 2 years.

I'm sure the overall design won't be changed next year but all the little things that will make this a true next gen machine will come next year. Cannonlake/Coffee Lake, better battery life, higher RAM limit, OLED displays and most importantly a price drop. Apple always introduces re-designs at a premium only to lower the price with V2. Next year will be the sweet spot for this generation of machines.
 
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This is almost too easy. Next Macbooks will be:
1. Oled screens
2. 32 gb ram
3. Touchbar across all devices.
4. Everybody screams yohoo.

If it has a better battery life, then yes yeah you'll have a hit on your hands. In 12 months, USB-C will be much more widely accepted.
 
Dell pre-2014 is radically different to their revised XPS line, I think that's where the confusion comes from.

The current XPS line is the same build quality as Apple or the new Razers.

There is literally no force on this earth that would make me believe Dell build quality is even remotely close to that of Apple. No idea what Razer's is like.
 
I was really hoping for OLED this year from Apple, but then i saw how rare OLED laptops are right now I knew it wouldn't happen. This probably won't happen next year or the year after, but maybe in 3 to 4 years during the next major design overhaul. It would be a big deal because Jony could shave off a few more mm, they wouldn't dump it in to the same form factor like Apple's switch from CCFL backlights to LED in 2007.
 
Completely agree with you and happy to see an objective opinion based on facts posted here. However, given that the technology is improving, as you acknowledged, I am hopeful that by the time Apple adopts OLED those problems will have been resolved. Despite the current wave of cynicism this is how Apple has performed in the past.

Crushed blacks are pretty much a non-issue in 2016 LG TVs. Yeah they can still make an appearance but can be calibrated away AFAIK. Haven't even bothered to calibrate mine though and even though they've bothered me in the past I haven't noticed them at all in this years model.
 
I have a Lumix GX-7 u4:3 camera that has an OLED screen. The text on the screen vanishes after 60 seconds, apparently to prevent burn-in. I would assume this is inherent to all OLEDs. If so, and if Apple does indeed put an OLED display in its notebooks, I assume we must return to use of AfterDark flying toasters to save our screens?
 
There is literally no force on this earth that would make me believe Dell build quality is even remotely close to that of Apple. No idea what Razer's is like.
Even if dell had their gear produced by Foxconn?

Your comment is about as koolaid biased as they come. Times are changing my friend, the competition has not only caught up, they are passing on a daily basis.
All this site does is moan about Apple being lazy and not updating kit, then as soon as a rival updates their kit to something quite nice, the apologists have a paddy..
 
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Black is not black.

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This is black (vanta black), it is almost so black, it makes black look blacker on the screen.


It's like how much more black could this be. The answer is none, none more black.
 
There is literally no force on this earth that would make me believe Dell build quality is even remotely close to that of Apple. No idea what Razer's is like.


Well, they are, whether you believe it or not...
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It also has a 56Wh battery, compared to 84Wh on the MBP, and the GTX 960M has a max power draw of 75W.

The SSD model (ie without an upgradeable HDD hdd caddy slot) comes with a 84Wh option. Choice depending on need! Imagine that!
 
Even if dell had their gear produced by Foxconn?

Your comment is about as koolaid biased as they come. Times are changing my friend, the competition has not only caught up, they are passing on a daily basis.
All this site does is moan about Apple being lazy and not updating kit, then as soon as a rival updates their kit to something quite nice, the apologists have a paddy..

It is simply based on the fact that I bought my daughter a Dell recently and myself an Asus laptop for gaming. The experience is still the same Windows OEM-******** it has always been. Both computers have had driver issues since day0 that cause problems with wifi, not waking from sleep, touchpad etc etc. Having been away from Windows for a number of years it was pretty pathetic to realize it is the exact same **** it has always been.

I also bought a Surface 3 to run virtual pianos on my digital piano. It remains the only Windows device I've touched that didn't eventually have some kind of driver issue. That's nice and all but Microsoft hardware is as expensive as Apple so there is zero motivation to migrate any of our other hardware.
 
It is simply based on the fact that I bought my daughter a Dell recently and myself an Asus laptop for gaming. The experience is still the same Windows OEM-******** it has always been. Both computers have had driver issues since day0 that cause problems with wifi, not waking from sleep, touchpad etc etc. Having been away from Windows for a number of years it was pretty pathetic to realize it is the exact same **** it has always been.

I also bought a Surface 3 to run virtual pianos on my digital piano. It remains the only Windows device I've touched that didn't eventually have some kind of driver issue. That's nice and all but Microsoft hardware is as expensive as Apple so there is zero motivation to migrate any of our other hardware.
Interesting, that your experience of one dell machine turns in to no force on earth could convince you that any dell machine could rival an Apple machine.. so.. you have nicely deflected my response. I'll ask again, if the same manufacturing people as apple made a Dell, would you believe then that the quality would be as good? Simple question needs a simple answer..

Oh, and at the minute Bar the note fiasco, the s6 and s7 galaxy models are 100% equal to any iphone in build quality. Don't believe it if you choose to, doesn't mean it's not true..
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isn't OLED the future anyway?
Only when Apple has caught up and proclaimed their groundbreaking new screen tech..

The AP-AMOLED super retina plus is genius!! (Still only 1080p)
 
It also has a 56Wh battery, compared to 84Wh on the MBP, and the GTX 960M has a max power draw of 75W.

Seen as the case is the same size they should have put the same battery in as the 4k machine and doubled the battery life - being cheap I guess (thats what people would say and accuse Apple of right?)
 
Seen as the case is the same size they should have put the same battery in as the 4k machine and doubled the battery life
Well, you can get the FHD version with the big battery, but in the configuration you are discussing, you get a spinning HD to cut down on costs which blocks the space for the bigger battery. Not my cup of tea, I am still thinking about the UHD with the bigger battery and 32GB, but if you are short on money, you can go with the HD version and later buy the bigger battery and an M.2 SSD. Or keep the small battery and have an M.2 as the boot medium and the HD as a secondary.

Ain't that a great thing, customer choices? So sad Apple doesn't believe in it at all.
 
Well, you can get the FHD version with the big battery, but in the configuration you are discussing, you get a spinning HD to cut down on costs which blocks the space for the bigger battery. Not my cup of tea, I am still thinking about the UHD with the bigger battery and 32GB, but if you are short on money, you can go with the HD version and later buy the bigger battery and an M.2 SSD. Or keep the small battery and have an M.2 as the boot medium and the HD as a secondary.

Ain't that a great thing, customer choices? So sad Apple doesn't believe in it at all.

Go for it man, whatever makes you happy eh!
 
I don't think I can wait another cycle. I am too tired of it. Something is missing at Apple.

I'm a really loyal apple fan, but I'm also a rational person. For the first time, I hopelessly fell apple really messed up this round of release. I think apple's problem is getting unmanageable.

Tim can be a great COO and a VP of supply chain, but he is not and he will never become the brain and heart of Apple.

What apple needs is not time, not patient from customers, not fancy marketing, but a visionary who is competent enough to envision and guide Apple in next 50 years. Someone who can sell products in simple plain paper envelopes. Someone who can define the future of computing while presenting products that seamlessly transitions from the past industry standards. Someone who lust engineering perfection in products while understanding business economics. Someone who is a system builder that integrates all the service and products within the Ecosystem to provide an ease of mind for customers (starting by allowing iPhones to be plugged into Macbooks, Apple ear pods to be plugged into Macs, Mac standard USB-c to be plugged into IOS devices). Someone who leads, someone who creates, someone who can be the center of Apple - the Apple core, just like Steve.

Apple's outcome today was theorized by Steve decades ago. You can skip to 25:44s to see Steve's explanation of the fall of a great company or watch the entire interview. Link is here ---https://youtu.be/TRZAJY23xio?t=25m44s


My deepest condolences to Apple - once a miracle of greatness, no longer.
 
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