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Several readers are reporting similar emails to inquiries about where Real PC for OS X is:


There have been some shift of management lately going on at FWB Software. A couple of the mangement team members responsibled for RealPC are no longer in charge.

The process of handing over is still under way and the new management team has not as yet had a chance to verify the authenticity of the claims made by the previous management. Because of this we have removed the claim from the website whilst we carry out this investigation.

As soon as the story is clear we will make the appropriate press releases to notify the public of the complete story. It is expected that this will be
done during the up coming week.

Yours Sincerely
Mark Hurlow
FWB Software Inc

FWB made some waves with claims of an upcoming revival of Real PC with excellent performance. However, recent reports indicate they may be in a legal exchange with Microsoft.
 

crenz

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New management sounds good. Whether the trouble with Microsoft was real or a scam to hide development delays, I hope they'll publish the truth and then focus on finishing development on RealPC for OS X.
 

Pancake

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I hope the new management really gets into the whole Real PC idea, I think it would be good for VPC to have some competition to get them moving.

Someone accidently put Rael PC at the end of the thing.
 

SignTist

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the importance of being Earnest

I fail to see the importance of this application. Could somone please explain why this is such a newsworthy article?



SignTist
 

Kid Red

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It's an alternative to Virtual PC. Now the MS owns VPC it's importance is magnifying. The Real PC creators had an agreement with the makers of VPC to stop producing Real PC. Once MS bought VPC, it was believed that the agreement was therefore nullified. We are waiting to see if indeed Real PC will be released and updated or if MS would try and kill it as they try with all competition.

Oh yea, VPC sucks, so this was a glimmer of hope for those that have to run windows at home.
 

dongmin

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wow. this smells of a scam, big time.

i knew it was too good to be true. now, all I have is slow-as-molasses VPC, brought to you by your favorite developer Msoft, to run my AutoCAD. (sigh)
 

Flowbee

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Re: the importance of being Earnest

Originally posted by SignTist
I fail to see the importance of this application. Could somone please explain why this is such a newsworthy article?

RealPC is software similar to VirtualPC which allows you to run windows on a Mac. RealPC had recently announced that thier new verison would run significantly faster than VirtualPC.

This site has a pretty handy search function that you should get familiar with. Searching here or on the web for 'RealPC' would have answered your question very quickly.
 

altivec 2003

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Originally posted by dongmin
wow. this smells of a scam, big time.

i knew it was too good to be true. now, all I have is slow-as-molasses VPC, brought to you by your favorite developer Msoft, to run my AutoCAD. (sigh)

Heh, thats too bad :( You might actually be better off just buying a cad program for mac :rolleyes: . I am sure there are some good ones out there
 

dongmin

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Originally posted by altivec 2003
Heh, thats too bad :( You might actually be better off just buying a cad program for mac :rolleyes: . I am sure there are some good ones out there
I have one, Vectorworks, which is the best there is for the Mac. But I prefer using AutoCAD and the industry prefers it too.


There was a dicussion a while ago about the delays, and I proposed it was possible that:

1. The old legal agreement (which reeks of anti-competitive fraud to begin with) is still in effect, and FWB was premature in announcing its RealPC plans.

2. There never had any development going on with an OS X version of RPC, but advertised it to make a quick buck selling the existing version.

It's probably both.
 

MrMacMan

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Maybe they can stop running a damn scam, they said they should have had a product, I don't care if you have legal troubles, they were already having problems with the beta version never comign.

Comeon give us a real story.

I want to run some very basic games on my mac.
 

MacsRgr8

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Originally posted by dongmin


1. The old legal agreement (which reeks of anti-competitive fraud to begin with) is still in effect, and FWB was premature in announcing its RealPC plans.

2. There never had any development going on with an OS X version of RPC, but advertised it to make a quick buck selling the existing version.

Nr. 1 Is possible, but I can't imagine the legal department of FWB being that slow...

Nr. 2 If true, would be outrageous! Are they on the brink of bankrupcy?????
 

MasterX (OSiX)

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I wonder if Apple could scrape together some monopoly lawsuit against MS forcing them to release code for DirectX, then maybe we could see some games on this here mac. the irony is that I know while rewriting MS's software apple's DirectX would run better than the windows version. Ahh altivec my good old friend....
 

gopher

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A few months ago there was the promise of RealPC for Mac OS X
being much faster than VirtualPC for Mac OS X, and potentially capable of handling PC 3-d games. Hopefully they will deliver.
If they do, we should finally be able to see what the Mac
is capable of.
 

MasterX (OSiX)

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Didn't the creators of Real PC claim they had some way to bypass emulation and somehow get hardware accelerated 3D to work?
 

Kal-EL

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Aug 8, 2002
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Re: Re: the importance of being Earnest

Originally posted by Flowbee
RealPC is software similar to VirtualPC which allows you to run windows on a Mac. RealPC had recently announced that thier new verison would run significantly faster than VirtualPC.

This site has a pretty handy search function that you should get familiar with. Searching here or on the web for 'RealPC' would have answered your question very quickly.

One thing not mentioned in today's posts that had everyone drooling before, was that part of their proposed increase in speed over that of VPC is that they were trying to develop Real PC to not only run everyday applications faster, but make it so that you could play PC games without much lag in speed. Of course this is what today's article is about, the fact that these claims are going to have to be verified by the new folks in charge of the program.
 

MrMacMan

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Originally posted by MasterX (OSiX)
Didn't the creators of Real PC claim they had some way to bypass emulation and somehow get hardware accelerated 3D to work?
If they did they must have been frikken geniuses.

If hardware video is true then I will buy this product.

If it is still software based --boo.
 

MhzDoesMatter

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Jul 1, 2002
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Originally posted by dongmin
wow. this smells of a scam, big time.

i knew it was too good to be true. now, all I have is slow-as-molasses VPC, brought to you by your favorite developer Msoft, to run my AutoCAD. (sigh)

You do realize that Microsoft has had nothing to do with the development of VPC thus far, correct?

Originally posted by MrMacMan
Maybe they can stop running a damn scam, they said they should have had a product, I don't care if you have legal troubles, they were already having problems with the beta version never comign.

Comeon give us a real story.

I want to run some very basic games on my mac.

Well now that you've let them know your perspective, I'm sure they'll disregard whatever legal concerns may cause the end of their business and release whatever they have duct taped together so far. Isn't it great when companies set aside that useless quality assurance and lousy business longevity and put the user first?

Originally posted by MasterX (OSiX)

I wonder if Apple could scrape together some monopoly lawsuit against MS forcing them to release code for DirectX, then maybe we could see some games on this here mac. the irony is that I know while rewriting MS's software apple's DirectX would run better than the windows version. Ahh altivec my good old friend....

I pretty much think it's been established that suing Microsoft is not the way to go about anything.


-Hertz

Truth is, no one can really postulate what's going on behind the doors of FWB. Calling it a scam is just as much a foolhardy assumption as claiming them the latest victim of the evil empire. Speculation is great. But is there really a need to get so riled up over it?
 

sfoalex

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This is such bull

You guys don't see Microsoft behind this at all? I sure do. This looks to me like Microsoft paid a few people off and in exchange, they walk away and say nothing about anything.

These guys were in beta for crying out loud. Now they are not sure if it will work? Oh come on... You buy that load of bull****.. I sure don't...

FWB is the same company that was bought off by Connectix. They even admitted to that after Connectix was sold to Microsoft.

We've been sold out. How much do you want to bet they come back and say it cannot be done. Why did the prior management leave? It doesn't matter, they will make up what ever claim they want. Funny how it works on Sun hardware which is Unix based pretty much they way it would work on OS X and now they retract it will at all?

This is the biggest bunch of bull I have heard in a long time.
 

mjtomlin

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Gave up waiting for it...

I needed a mixed network (windows, linux, Mac OS) a while back ... waited a while for RealPC to hit the streets, but it never did. I ended up buying Virtual PC 6.
 

Abstract

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Maybe the deal between the FWB people and VPC is dead, but Microsoft claimed that it isn't dead, and then plan on wrapping FWB in legal battles for a few months/years despite knowing that they'll lose. Is this even plausible, or am I totally in left field somewhere?

Bill Gates is evil. Bill is ruthless. Bill had sex with the devil and produced a creature that is now known as "Martha Stewart".
 

besson3c

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Apr 9, 2003
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who "has" to run VPC?

Why fret about VPC or RealPC when you can just use Microsoft Remote Desktop? It's always going to work better than any emulation...

Are you guys not aware that this product exists?
 

arn

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Re: who "has" to run VPC?

Originally posted by besson3c
Why fret about VPC or RealPC when you can just use Microsoft Remote Desktop? It's always going to work better than any emulation...

Are you guys not aware that this product exists?

well, you do need a PC on the other end of that software... :)

arn
 

nero007

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Feb 25, 2002
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Re: Re: who "has" to run VPC?

Originally posted by arn
well, you do need a PC on the other end of that software... :)

arn

And in which case, why not just work on the PC. lol
 
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