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iPad Pro FYI 9.3 beta breaks Apple pencil

Guys.... This is not a "bug". I'm going to repeat what I posted in another thread.

Using the Pencil primarily as a UI navigation device is definitely not one of the primary intents Apple had with the iPad Pro. In particular, if you look at this interview with Jony Ive:

Jony Ive said:
I think there’s a potential to confuse the role of the Pencil with the role of your finger in iOS, and I actually think it’s very clear the Pencil is for making marks, and the finger is a fundamental point of interface for everything within the operating system. And those are two very different activities with two very different goals.

So we are very clear in our own minds that this will absolutely not replace the finger as a point of interface. But it is, and I don’t think anybody would argue, a far better tool than your finger when your focus becomes exclusively making marks. The traditional pencil could have been replaced by a dish of powdered charcoal, which you dipped your finger into to make marks with. And that didn’t happen.
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If you really want this functionality restored, you should be emailing Tim Cook. If enough people show an interest in this use case, they're more likely to make sure it makes it to the GA release.
 
I'm not saying you're definitely wrong but the amount of certainty in which you speak on the subject has no merit. No one really knows what Apple is doing until it's done and even then it's hard to know.
 
gigatigga said:
I'm not saying you're definitely wrong but the amount of certainty in which you speak on the subject has no merit. No one really knows what Apple is doing until it's done and even then it's hard to know.
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That's why I quoted the Jony Ive interview. This is really what Jony Ive said, not me. Again:

Jony Ive said:
So we are very clear in our own minds that this will absolutely not replace the finger as a point of interface.
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Certainly, he doesn't necessarily speak for the entire company, or he may even have changed his mind, but based on what he's said, being able to use the Pencil as "a point of interface" is definitely not what he intended.
 
so what do they expect people who like to use a stylus to carry around the apple pencil to write with and another stylus with a nub on it to navigate. Stylus has always had a dual purpose. My mother much prefers a stylus to navigate rather then her finger and its not that uncommon.

forcing the apple pencil to not function the way people expect is not the way to get people to buy your product.
 
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Yeah I also think if they were going to disable it in the interface they'd completely disable it. Allowing it to tap and click but nothing else seems really short sighted. Though I guess it is apple, my point is one can never tell
 
Idk what this "promised" word is. It did actually ship...people actually shelled out money for them. Did they promise it did anything anything at all?
 
I see - the typical childish us stance that gets us all the funny manuals "like don't dry kitties in the microwave" oder "coffee is hot"...

ALL marketing material Apple provides in store, presentation and on the website always pointed out painting/drawing and writing. None of them displayed it as a navigation tool.
 
So Apple never intended Pencil support across the board. fact is they've recently given it to us, and now they want to take it away. why give it in the first place?
To some of us it's a fantastic thing. For me it's an absolute game changer. I didn't buy the Pro on the strength of the Pencil, but now i have this brilliant input and navigation too i want to keep it!

if you (or Apple) no like then why not just ignore? we're not harming anyone.

I was, and still am, very very mouse pro, but the more i use the Pencil as a pseudo mouse the more and more i'm liking it better as an input device on my touch device. Maybe develop the Pencil with buttons or an 'eraser' but whatever, there's nothing i find i want a mouse for that the Pencil couldn't do even better i think (for me anyway).

hopefully Apple will let us have this option open to us in the public 9.3 release. it isn't harming the UI or the ecosystem. if anything, its winning more fans than offending them.

As a mentioned earlier, if the general navigation is revoked I'll certainly never be upgrading my ios.

peace :)
 
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Don't misunderstand, I'm not against the feature. I just think labeling its absence as a 'bug' and making bug reports is not going to give it the right visibility. Again, send emails to Tim Cook. If there's enough of them showing that it's a useful pro feature, they're less likely to remove it when 9.3 is officially released.
 
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Why would you want to scroll with the Apple Pencil really? iOS was designed for high precision with the finger. Honestly, I just use my Apple Pencil when I want to write and create diagrams (activities you would normally use a pencil)
 
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Why would you want to scroll with the Apple Pencil really? iOS was designed for high precision with the finger. Honestly, I just use my Apple Pencil when I want to write and create diagrams (activities you would normally use a pencil)
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Because some of us are different than you. Our useage is as legit as yours.
 
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