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G4

Slowly moving back out of my corner...

Originally posted by King Cobra
.... When Rene said "how can you estimate what its potential is?!" that basically means that my personal opinion is ridiculous. As far as I am concerned, 1.4GHz is not out of line.

Then I simply procedded to make him feel better by supporting him, telling him to try and get through the day. Then --get your glasses on-- I made a joke to try and make him feel better...

...So I am not making other apologize at all, but I am pointing out that honest opinions shouldn't be rejected like that...
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Wow, I did not realize what impact my comments on KC and his reaction would have.

First of all, let me make clear that "in my opinion" KC was right when pointing out to me that people should respect other peoples opions. However it was never my intention to ridicule his opinion. What I tried to make clear to KC is that he made a comment on something he did not really know what it was (as it appeared to me).

Let me give an example. You can have an opinion about a joke. You have heard that joke, and you will like it or not (or you do not get it ;)) . Another exampe. You can have an opinion on my girlfriend. Either you will think she is a fox, or you do not.

Now back to KC, "in my opinion" that post is funny, because first KC announces he does not really know what chip it is, but next has an opinion on that chip (which chip?) like a designer would have with his boss. (Boss: How fast will it be able to go? Designer: In my opinion we could safely try and squeeze 1.5 Ghz out of it before it would burst into flames.)

Can you have an opinion on something you have never seen, heard, or tried (no, you can not try my girlfriend :rolleyes: )? Or on something of which you do not know what it exactly is? Not "in my opinion".

I would have formulated his post something like: "I think I have read somewhere it is a low power one. Maybe therefore it can reach higher processing speeds without additional cooling." It is the same thing but now I am just guessing instead of having an opinion on something I have not designed, touched, tasted or even tried.

However, all that is stated above is my opinion on how to use opinions, but I have no right telling people how to use opinions and when. KC was right pointing that out to me, and therefore I apologized. I should have stayed on topic instead of insulting people.

And no... as you might have guessed I do not have an airconditioning unit at work :D :D :D
 
Hey, Quad, that's just your opinion.

Rene and others, just drop it. Maybe I was at fault, maybe not. But, quite frankly, I could give one right now.

Let's drop it already and move on.


xcoff, smart move. Always start with Babelfish when you are bored out of your mind! :D

Babelfish rocks. :cool:
 
Originally posted by King Cobra


Hey, Rene, you're a newbie. And you're telling me what you think in response to opinions. This is classic!
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What the hell has being a newbie on MacRumours got to do with validating an opinion? all it can tell someone is how many posts have been made by a user, under that user name.
 
Originally posted by kettle


What the hell has being a newbie on MacRumours got to do with validating an opinion? all it can tell someone is how many posts have been made by a user, under that user name.
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Yes, but some people equate their ability to be unproductive in life (and post here) with their authority in predictions.
 
Originally posted by Ibjr
Yes, but some people equate their ability to be unproductive in life (and post here) with their authority in predictions.
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Considering it takes one to know one...

Now I don't care who is wrong about this ridiculous situation, but it better end. Otherwise, I may request a moderator to shut this down, if no one is going to continue the G4 discussion.

So all of you complaining about my comment regarding Rene ****! I'm getting sick of this. :mad:
 
Originally posted by King Cobra


Considering it takes one to know one...

So all of you complaining about my comment regarding Rene ****! I'm getting sick of this. :mad:
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How hard can it be to apologize?

Instead you respond to an obviously valid complaint (why else would so many complain?) with your clichéd tripe! Then cry foul that we have gone off topic, although you were the one who started with the ad hominem assults.

Apologize for your baseless attack on Rene.
 
Settle Down, People

From reading the posts at the heart of this little tiff, I would say that Rene was needlessly rude in his first reply to King Cobra (see p1), and the last two pages have been the unedifying result.

I don't think Apple would bother with DDR RAM if the processor and/or bus couldn't use it.
 
I refuse to apologize, and here is why.

Rene inferred that my comment (I repeat, COMMENT) about 1.4GHz being the max the G4 could handle was wrong, and he said that it could go to 2GHz. I don't remember where, but I thought I heard that 1.5GHz was the max the G4 could go. Therefore, if this is so, then Rene would be incorrect.

In fact, you may want to check out this website, along with the link in the article. As far as the 7500 goes, there has been no confirmed speed. Although it is supposed to go faster than the 7470, which tops out at 1.5GHz, there is no guarentee that the 7500 can reach 2GHz, as Rene suggested.

Just in case you become even more blinded by the light, I WAS NOT QUESTIONING AN OPINION! I only suggested that Rene shouldn't question mine, as it doesn't play fair in life. And if you think I am treating Rene with disrespect, I most certainly am NOT. In fact, I am watching out for him and making sure that he doesn't question an opinion or a comment I make. All I did was repremand him.

The only thing I regret is calling him a newbie and saying that it was classic behavior. In fact, that was the only immature thing I said in my previous post. But it doesn't matter if someone had 20 posts or 2000 posts I still would have commented on that person the same way.

So before you become so ignorant as to question what I say in regard to a comment maybe you might want to check if that comment is an opinion or an objection. The two words are right there in the dictionary, between misinterpretation and poor [reading skills].
 
Originally posted by skunk
From reading the posts at the heart of this little tiff, I would say that Rene was needlessly rude in his first reply to King Cobra (see p1), and the last two pages have been the unedifying result.
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FYI, I did not see your post while I was still responding to Ibjr.

Again, let's get back on topic with the G4 and DDR-RAM.

As far as we all know, the Xserve uses DDR-RAM, so I would not be surprised to see the updated G4 be incorporated with DDR-RAM. If this doesn't happen, then I THINK Apple needs to apply much faster memory in their PowerMacs. I realize that DDR-RAM is a two-way 133MHz deal, but improved memory to 200MHz would me the minimum I would accept.

Besides, I think it's time the PowerMacs got DDR-RAM, regardless of whether or not a G5 is coming (which most likely isn't). Since the Xserve was supposed to be a PowerMac in a different design (I THINK) then why not supply the original PowerMac with DDR-RAM? I'd say it's about damn time. :cool:
 
Hey tjwett yeah I'm from Suffolk County but I intern in the city. I'm hoping the NYC Apple store is built soon since I have yet to hear much detail about the Long Island one. I Know there is a new one just built in New Jersey, but then again that's Jersey and not NYC or the island, which really doesn't help us out too much.

Well I'm going to MWNY to check out my new Power Mac in action before I order it. Maybe I'll ask a few questions regarding the status of a LI Apple store.
 
Originally posted by King Cobra
I refuse to apologize, and here is why.

Rene inferred that my comment (I repeat, COMMENT) about 1.4GHz being the max the G4 could handle was wrong, and he said that it could go to 2GHz. I don't remember where, but I thought I heard that 1.5GHz was the max the G4 could go. Therefore, if this is so, then Rene would be incorrect....

...So before you become so ignorant as to question what I say in regard to a comment maybe you might want to check if that comment is an opinion or an objection. The two words are right there in the dictionary, between misinterpretation and poor [reading skills].
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KC, I repeat, I did not question your opinion (I repeat opinion, IMO AFAIK means, in my opinion), I only questioned wether it was an opinion. And I did not mean to be rude, I was only joking.

You really miss the point if you questioning who technically was correct. If you read that the G4 can go to 1.5 Ghz, than thats not even your opinion. It is what you heard and what you hope, but not your opinion.

Now please go whining to the moderators to close this thread.
 
Let me clarify a bit more, then. The 1.4GHz was supposed to be an opinion, but 1.5GHz was not. And I could not pick out the joke in your statement.

Even if the G4 goes to 1.5GHz via an article and is not my opinion, then it cannot be questioned. As the article states, the 7470 goes to 1.5GHz. But my opinion rested with 1.4GHz.

I won't whine to the moderators just yet. I would rather see this thread quiet down, as I THINK this is a very interesting topic. I honestly don't want it closed, as it wouldn't be fair. But I would feel that it would be the only measures if things go any more out of control than the flamewars tossed back and forth.

You must be dying of the heat in your office without an AC. I feel bad, man. :(
 
cool.

Originally posted by TyleRomeo
Hey tjwett yeah I'm from Suffolk County but I intern in the city. I'm hoping the NYC Apple store is built soon since I have yet to hear much detail about the Long Island one. I Know there is a new one just built in New Jersey, but then again that's Jersey and not NYC or the island, which really doesn't help us out too much.

Well I'm going to MWNY to check out my new Power Mac in action before I order it. Maybe I'll ask a few questions regarding the status of a LI Apple store.
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same hear! live in Suffolk and work(was interning till they finally hired me) in the city. what do you do, web design? i'm going to MWNY too. i hope we are all not too dissappointed. i'm just waiting for 10.2 so Logic Audio and the rest of my music apps will come out. i can't wait anymore.
 
This almost qualifies for the old saying:

Never argue with a fool. The problem is that any one who may overhear the argument may not be able to tell which one is the fool!

Flame wars for years have been started on statements made that were not interpretted the way the author meant them. Please keep that in mind. Sometimes it doesn't matter that much who is right...especially in a rumors forum where we deal with inaccurate facts all of the time.
 
can you believe how these guys are arguing?

anyway I do post production work, mostly with Final Cit although i'm learning Avid's Media Composer 10.5 through my internship. Also maybe i'll learn Pro Tools. I love music but I do nothing special with it besides making my own mixes and edits of my Mp3s.

I heard rumors of Pro Tools for X at MWNY. But we'll see what happens.
 
Originally posted by TyleRomeo
can you believe how these guys are arguing?

anyway I do post production work, mostly with Final Cit although i'm learning Avid's Media Composer 10.5 through my internship. Also maybe i'll learn Pro Tools. I love music but I do nothing special with it besides making my own mixes and edits of my Mp3s.

I heard rumors of Pro Tools for X at MWNY. But we'll see what happens.
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that's cool. i have friend's who work at Sound One which is a real nice post house in NYC. that's the field i'm looking to get into, mainly for motion graphics. i've been doing music for a long time(ProTools & Logic) and i think we'll probably see the release of most of the major audio apps for OSX with the release of 10.2, which is supposedly what's holding everything up. i can't wait. any more internships where you're at?
 
Hi, does anyone know any Os x keyboards that dont clackity clack so much. I hve the white pro, and It sounds like some peecee keyboards at my school. Thanks
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i think you wanted to create a whole new thread for a response...

but the main reason is just the design.. theres no way to fix it, if thats what your asking...

you can buy any USB keyboard for your mac, though, since they are compatible...

you can create a new post by click on "New Thread" instead of "Post Reply"..
 
Originally posted by firewire2001
you can create a new post by click on "New Thread" instead of "Post Reply"..
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Doesn't that bring back fond memories? :eek: :D

swahilibill, I think you meant your post to be a question, or request for information. That belongs in the Mac Help/Questions forum. Just FYI from now on.
 
Originally posted by TyleRomeo
Hey tjwett[/B...I'm hoping the NYC Apple store is built soon since I have yet to hear much detail about the Long Island one.
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I managed to catch a peak through the construction barrier in SoHo last week... The wallmounts were up, and it appeared as though the construction workers were finishing the subflooring. Looks good for a MWNY-concurrent opening...
 
good...

Originally posted by gropo
I managed to catch a peak through the construction barrier in SoHo last week... The wallmounts were up, and it appeared as though the construction workers were finishing the subflooring. Looks good for a MWNY-concurrent opening...
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Nice! hey, we have alot more NYers here than i thought. if i see something i like at MWNY, i could go down there and buy it. that would be a great day.
 
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