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i was reading past arhive rumors of the iMac G4 introduction, it was actually quite funny cos the rumors that were coming out were so far off of the actual iMac G4, For starters everyone was certain that the new iMac was going to feature a G3.
Only a day before it's release did one rumor site get it right because of a mistake by CanadaTimes.

Well i know that this doesn't say these rumors are not correct, but this does say that rumor sites do get it wrong.

Peace DjVoTeZ
 
I Think it's a shame that an otherwise good quality system like the Sony V series could not run on OSX.

I does re-define the ALL IN ONE concept as a complete home media center.

I would love to purchase an Apple product with these kind of features.
Especially if they were available on the larger cinema display models.

IF Apple would release a product combining their best features, adding
the TFT display, integrated HDTV, and much improved graphics support, the average consumer would have little trouble deciding which way to go.

Both manufacturers may offer high quality hardware, but the operating system is really what keeps us loyal to Apple.

I hope that Apple will continue to offer the highest quality overall system available.
 
FFTT said:
Talking about the Hip-e is just a waste of time.

I think Apple is much more likely to offer us something to compete with
the Sony V series AIO's

http://www.sonystyle.ca/commerce/se...01&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&productId=174193

pcvv_product_top.jpg


Although I'm still hard line anti-P/C
this unit does offer some very impressive features.



Intel® Pentium® 4 processor 2.80 GHz


200GB Ultra ATA/100 Hard Drive


512MB PC-2700 DDR RAM


DVD±RW/CD-RW Slim Combo Drive


i.LINK® (IEEE 1394) S400 digital interface


Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition





VAIO® Exclusive Software:



Giga Pocket™ - Personal video recorder


Sony SonicStage™ with MP3 encoder - MP3 File Managment



Sony SonicStage™ Mastering Studio - Digital Music Software



Sony DVgate™ Plus - Digital Video Software



Sony Network Smart Capture - Image



Sony PictureGear Studio™


Prices start around $1500

I think its ugly 🙂
 
gatorron said:
I, too, am hard-line anti-PC. But I agree that Sony products are probably Apple's most competitive opponent...styling and retail pricewise.

I am currently using a Sony PCG-FX240K (P3) laptop to write this...as I await Aug. 31 buying decision. Need to see the new iMac then decide whether to get it, or drop the whole wad on a Power Mac.

The model shown is certainly more attractive than the WG700, an ugly beast that must have been puked out on a bad day.

The included Sony software, though, is crap for the most part. Unless it has undergone major re-writes, the modules stink. I don't use any of the included Sony stuff.

Then there's XP, reason enough not to buy this or any PC.

One bright note: Today I checked my credit card statement, and lo and behold, there's a $59.99 charge on it from McAfee. I call, and they said:

"We automatically charge your account one month before expiration of your subscription."

I replied: "Well, I'm getting a MAC in two weeks, so I don't need your software anymore."

They refunded it, and canceled the automatic renewal. I can pretty much use the savings to order, say, a Bluetooth module on the Power Mac, or a wireless keyboard...ha!

Goodbye PC world...the end is near

Sony's not a major player in the desktop market, though. They have a reasonable share in the laptop market, but Apple's biggest competitor is probably Dell (I hope the mods don't edit out the D-Word 😉).
 
csubear said:
I think its ugly 🙂

Agreed!

But we're talking about overall design, features and function.

Let's all hope that the new iMac G5's beauty will be more than skin deep.
 
daveway00 said:
I am willing to bet a good bit of knowledge that Apple would kost definitely use this: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...&e=5&u=/fool/20040819/bs_fool_fool/1092927480

Reason: The reason the original imac was popular besides that it was cheap was that it came in a variety of colors and this concept offers that and more. Cheap production is a plus for Apple.

AWESOME CONCEPT and sooo Apple!

It would indeed be cool if Apple applied this technology on the new iMac G5 to allow their logo to change colors based on user-defined parameters. [Pulsing blue for incoming email. Solid green when disc is done burning. Blinking orange when it's okay to unplug your iPod..oh the possibilities].
Just the kind of system resource-draining effect that does nothing really useful, while making us all say, "Ooh...shiny." 😀
 
powermac666 said:
It would indeed be cool if Apple applied this technology on the new iMac G5 to allow their logo to change colors based on user-defined parameters. [Pulsing blue for incoming email. Solid green when disc is done burning. Blinking orange when it's okay to unplug your iPod..oh the possibilities].
Just the kind of system resource-draining effect that does nothing really useful, while making us all say, "Ooh...shiny." 😀

Although this sounds like something fun,
I would much rather see Apple configure all of their systems with the best possible basics, especially in processor speeds, memory, graphics support, HDTV tuners & A/V I/O's, superdrives and longer warranties before they add far less important bells an whistles of this nature.

The warranty issue is even more important now that a new overseas contractor is building these machines. The All In One concept is great until something breaks.
 
I would just like to remind people that the newest Dual 1.8 G5 only comes with 256mb ram as a standard so the ram thing really isnt that bad. in comparison to a dual G5 which is somehow running off of 128mb per cpu.

I personally don't know what to do at this point. As a new Mac user who owns a used 467 mhz PowerMac G4 anything is an upgrade to me. The best value to me though seems to be an eMac.
 
FFTT said:
Although this sounds like something fun,
I would much rather see Apple configure all of their systems with the best possible basics, especially in processor speeds, memory, graphics support, HDTV tuners & A/V I/O's, superdrives and longer warranties before they add far less important bells an whistles of this nature.

I agree. Alas, our typical consumer, whose opinion is rarely [if ever] voiced on this forum, will not be too concerned with the graphics card or the number of RAM slots. The first thing they will notice is the form factor. If it catches their eye, they may buy Apple. Anything to attract attention [potential purchasers] is what Apple is likely to do. After all, those of us who are in here whining about the rumored spec's are already hooked on Apple.
Hey, new converts...fresh voices complaining on the forum! 🙂
 
I praise the fact that Apple is making a great effort in bringing 64-bit technology to the average Joe for less than 2,000 dollars. I mean, with the help of Apple, the price (as well as the prestige) of 64-bit processors will drop, and now your everday secretary, student - even your mom - will be interested in owning a G5 iMac, whether it's for looks or you sweet talked them into it. 🙂

Apple is an industry leader in many venues of technology. From implementation of Firewire, USB, etc., to the discontinution of the Poopy (Floppy) Drive, we're always setting newer, higher standards. However, I am shocked that Apple has decided to stick with old graphics cards and low amounts of RAM. The strong point of owning a G5 is the newer architecture, which is dependent on your RAM and AGP slot. I mean, if you're not going to incorporate newer technology along side a new chip and design, what's the point in upgrading at all? 😕
 
weezer160 said:
However, I am shocked that Apple has decided to stick with old graphics cards and low amounts of RAM. The strong point of owning a G5 is the newer architecture, which is dependent on your RAM and AGP slot. I mean, if you're not going to incorporate newer technology along side a new chip and design, what's the point in upgrading at all? 😕


how do you know what graphics card their going to use? or are you taking previous GUESSES as fact? i could of missed something but as far as i know there arent any for sure specs out there as far as the new g5 imac is concerned.

i reread your post...and now assume that you must be talking about the PowerMacs....not the iMac.
 
i agree with FFTT, we're probably going to see something to compete with the new Sony all-in-ones. apple would be too smart to include a built in TV function, though... it defeats the purpose of the beginner-esque iMac... not to mention an increase in price point.

hopefully we'll see an all-in-one design that is thin and light enough to hang on a wall mount... its apple though, so the sex appeal will be undeniable.
 
Of course, I remember the negative reaction to the iPod Mini before it was released, and look how that has sold. I was told recently by a major UK electrical retailer that they won't have them on sale until December !

Maybe the new iMac will woo those iPod Mini buyers...
 
Just 8 more days!

In only 8 days, we will [hopefully] get an eyeful of the new G5 iMac. Maybe then we can all stop this endless conjecture about the specifications...and start complaining about the real spec's! 😀 😀
 
powermac666 said:
In only 8 days, we will [hopefully] get an eyeful of the new G5 iMac. Maybe then we can all stop this endless conjecture about the specifications...and start complaining about the real spec's! 😀 😀

Yeah, rock'n'roll, Phil will deliver! 😀 😎
 
I got so caught up in the future of the Powerbooks that I overlooked a good replacement and something that can fit my needs perfectly in trying to convert to a desktop-free environment.

I bet this week will be very slow! Up the VRAM, add DVI and FW800, and I'm sold.

It would be great if the Cube returned, I loved the photo of the colored cubes paired with the new Al-Displays. The consensus is that the new machines will remain in a AIO format; but it does not hurt to hope! A G5-Cube...how cool!
 
powermac666 said:
In only 8 days, we will [hopefully] get an eyeful of the new G5 iMac. Maybe then we can all stop this endless conjecture about the specifications...and start complaining about the real spec's! 😀 😀

I am hoping for a leak or really accurate mock up in the next week. TS had some good stuff and others as well. I think its such a big thing that more will come out before Paris.

Hopefully there will be some other cool stuff as well.
 
iMac vs. Tower

gatorron (edited) said:
Cannibal:

I'm right there with you. I hope to beat you in terms of getting in the que.

However, my own nervousnness revolves around making a choice between a high end iMac and a low end Power Mac.

Won't know until Aug. 31, I guess.

As for the horizontal versus vertical issue... So rest easy.

i was also flirting with the Tower versus the iMac dilema. but i know me... and i know that i'll want a monitor that is outrageous and i'll pay too much for it. i know me. i'm pretty excited about the specs that have been leaked. the memory (as always) needs a jump, but... everything else is perfect. the tower will be more upgradeable in the long run. but the iMac will be a centerpiece for 78% of the conversations that go on in the room with it. Form AND Function.


in terms of the vertical drive... i am still a bit nervous about it, but i trust that Cupertino has something marvelous in store for me. I have faith...
7 days and counting...

-Cannibal-
-beige G3 300MHz (minitower) 🙄
 
Cannibal said:
...the tower will be more upgradeable in the long run. but the iMac will be a centerpiece for 78% of the conversations that go on in the room with it. Form AND Function.
It's fine with me if people want a mac to show off in their livingroom or whatever, dispite is crappy hardware/poor preformance/non-upgradability... but for the life of Brian, give those that aren't vain and stupid a halfway cutting edge computer...

I can't believe the rumored imac has NO cutting edge specs. I'll have to see it to believe it. I guess if they do, there will always be the guppies willing to fork out 2k for what the emac should be at this point.
 
Converted2Truth said:
It's fine with me if people want a mac to show off in their livingroom or whatever, dispite is crappy hardware/poor preformance/non-upgradability... but for the life of Brian, give those that aren't vain and stupid a halfway cutting edge computer...

Cut the trolls, please.

Apple sells integrated systems, not heaps of components that are supposed to impress people by shaving a half second off of a render or giving an extra two frames to some game. They're intended for a market that likes what their products have come to emblemize - style, ease of use, integration, and simplicity. The iMac and iPod the flagship products as far as most of the populace are concerned, because they stand out from the dull roar of undiferentiated PC pap.

To kill that is to remove a large portion of what sells Apple hardware.

I can't believe the rumored imac has NO cutting edge specs. I'll have to see it to believe it. I guess if they do, there will always be the guppies willing to fork out 2k for what the emac should be at this point.

The PowerPC platform is more expensive for comparable technology. Don't believe me? Go look up PegasOS' laughable G4 motherboards and see just how pricey they are, despite being commodity wherever possible.
 
weezer160 said:
I praise the fact that Apple is making a great effort in bringing 64-bit technology to the average Joe for less than 2,000 dollars. I mean, with the help of Apple, the price (as well as the prestige) of 64-bit processors will drop, and now your everday secretary, student - even your mom - will be interested in owning a G5 iMac, whether it's for looks or you sweet talked them into it. 🙂

Ignoring the fact that the average Joe has no need for a 64-bit system, said Joe can already get a 64-bit system for under $2000 (under $1000, actually) - it's called the Athlon64. Sorry to say it but AMD is the company bringing 64-bit CPU's to the masses, not Apple.
 
XboxEvolved said:
As a new Mac user who owns a used 467 mhz PowerMac G4 anything is an upgrade to me. The best value to me though seems to be an eMac.

does anyone think the imac will be of better value than the emac? (i guess the value of a lcd vs. crt is completely subjective)
 
Converted2Truth said:
It's fine with me if people want a mac to show off in their livingroom or whatever, dispite is crappy hardware/poor preformance/non-upgradability... but for the life of Brian, give those that aren't vain and stupid a halfway cutting edge computer...

I can't believe the rumored imac has NO cutting edge specs. I'll have to see it to believe it. I guess if they do, there will always be the guppies willing to fork out 2k for what the emac should be at this point.
😡
choosing an iMac has nothing to do with vanity or stupidity. reading this post it's very hard for me to believe that you are a Mac person. i would NEVER describe the current model of iMacs (nor the rumored specs on the new iMac) as crappy. Apple makes quality computers that add to the functionality of your life. they integrate with you and your environment in a way that no other electronic product that i can think of does... is the iMac as upgradable as the tower? no. does that mean it's crappy? certainly not. Apple offers both products because they know that the two different designs will meet the needs of different end users.

grrrrrrrrrrrr....
-Cannibal-
😡
 
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