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Originally posted by agreenster
Pixar has been testing Renderman on a G5 for a long time, so I wonder if they already have a received shipment....😕

You mean steve's *other* company gets First Dibs?

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Originally posted by Mudbug
well, actually that link only kinda works too...

if you click the above link it takes you to what appears to be a blank white screen, but if you select the url, delete the /g5/ from it, and hit return, you can see the flash document very briefly on the screen showing the ports of a g5. Or at least that's how it's working for me.

The size of the .swf-file might make Safari time out.

Try http://www.pixarm.com/g5/slideshow.swf
 
The PowerMacs are built in Ireland. The plant itself is in Cork. This information is probably not entirely correct, as the G5 has not entered full scale production. All of the G5's seen at Macworld were hand built pre-production machines, though most were built to production spec. (It is possible that select developers could have gotten hold of one of these machines as quite a few have been built).

At the moment the plant is just beginning to run out the first machines, while more machinery and tools specific to G5 production is moved in and fitted and the parts required for assembly are delivered. Full production of the PowerMac G5 is expected to begin at the Cork plant during the first or second week of August, plenty of time to fulfill those orders.

The PPC970 Processor itself only went into full production VERY recently!!
 
Production

So if the chips just recently went into production, they're still tooling up the G5 factory, I sure hope that the G4 chips are finally being received in volume.

Jaedreth

(if the G5's ship before the G4's, I'll make up some Motorola voodoo dolls to do sadistic things to...)
 
Dude, I don't know if there's been anything in my lifetime so far that has merited so much excitement and drool as this damn computer.

Certain things like highly anticipated movies ("Return of the King" baby!!!) get me really excited and stuff. But these aren't things that will necessarily keep you up all night once you get it.

Seeing as about four years ago at this time I was buying a G3 (ignorant of impending G4s) and haven't upgraded since, I think that I should say goodbye to my friends for a few days when it finally arrives.

I doubt PC Users out there get this excited about their computers.
 
Originally posted by yoshi1013
I doubt PC Users out there get this excited about their computers.

I do when i BUILD my own computer. Stop being an Apple elitest. Granted, there really hasn't been anything groundbreaking in pcs for awhlie, but there's no reason to say that.
 
When I was at Siggraph this year, Pixar had a G5 at their booth, showing off how fast Renderman ran on it. And as far as I could tell (not having actually used Renderman before), it was amazingly fast. 🙂

Unfortunately, I don't have a working digital camera, so I couldn't take pictures. :/
 
Originally posted by MrMacman
You mean steve's *other* company gets First Dibs?

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A friend in a game company tells me word is Pixar have ordered "hundreds" of G5s... 🙂
 
Originally posted by wirewyrm
...while more machinery and tools specific to G5 production is moved in and fitted and the parts required for assembly are delivered....

Bleah. I'd be happy to stuff the pieces in an ATX case if it meant I could use a G5 faster, without waiting for possible delays in tooling for fancy aluminum bits. Wish I had the option...
 
G5 Shipping Notifications

I ordered my G5 yesterday, and was told it will be here "on or before October 17th."

Sheesh!

New board member
 
COmputer Excitement

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Originally posted by yoshi1013
I doubt PC Users out there get this excited about their computers.
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http://www.alienware.com/gaming_main_desktop.aspx

http://www.alienware.com/system_pages/area-51m.aspx

Apple has nowhere *NEAR* the price/feature ratio these guys have.

Nor do they have anywhere near the cosmetic options.

A friend of mine and myself got very excited looking over their website, and he's gonna buy one. I'm still undecided. I'll give Apple a chance, but I seriously doubt they will come out with systems *this* sweet.

Jaedreth
 
Alienware Machines vs. Macs

They're nice boxes, Jaedreth, but that's not what I buy a system for. I've been using Macs since 1987, and I'm -not- primarily a gamer. I do graphics. Lots of graphics. I am bilingual, and can use both OS's, Unix or even Sun Workstations.

I like Macintosh. Flashy plastic boxes don't improve the machine. Their features are pleasant, but the bottom line is: they're still using Winblows.
 
Originally posted by soggywulf
Bleah. I'd be happy to stuff the pieces in an ATX case if it meant I could use a G5 faster, without waiting for possible delays in tooling for fancy aluminum bits. Wish I had the option...

I doubt a standard ATX case could sufficiently cool a G5 though, at least not without adding a huge mess of noisy fans. Most of the G5's case engineering went into the massive cooling requirements...
 
Re: COmputer Excitement

Originally posted by jaedreth
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Originally posted by yoshi1013
I doubt PC Users out there get this excited about their computers.
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http://www.alienware.com/gaming_main_desktop.aspx

http://www.alienware.com/system_pages/area-51m.aspx

Apple has nowhere *NEAR* the price/feature ratio these guys have.

Nor do they have anywhere near the cosmetic options.

A friend of mine and myself got very excited looking over their website, and he's gonna buy one. I'm still undecided. I'll give Apple a chance, but I seriously doubt they will come out with systems *this* sweet.

Jaedreth
Pfffft.

Look at that notebook. It looks like it's about 3-4 Powerbooks-worth thick!
 
Originally posted by arn
it just makes little sense that no one would post pics/benches.

it's not like it's under NDA. It's a publically announced product.

arn

Actually it is possible that the early delivery to select clients could be under the condition of an NDA.


Edit: Ooops, after making my post, I read on and discovered various other people had already stated the same thing.
 
I truely have to wonder what it will take to clear up this sort of ignorance. It has been clearly stated by Apple that the engineering effort put into the case was to eliminate noise. The heat put out by the 970's is not exceptional.

The unfortunate thing is that, in designing the case, they seemed to have forgotten about the potential users. But I don't want to stir that issue up agian.

Please read the infiormation that Apple has been suppling the world before repeating this non-information.

thanks
Dave


Originally posted by fluffy
I doubt a standard ATX case could sufficiently cool a G5 though, at least not without adding a huge mess of noisy fans. Most of the G5's case engineering went into the massive cooling requirements...
 
Computer Excitement

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Pfffft.

Look at that notebook. It looks like it's about 3-4 Powerbooks-worth thick!
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Yeah, and it's 3-4 times the computer as well.

Apple needs to learn that portable users want power as well. You can't fit a true powerhouse in a 1" thick computer. Not everyone wants a 1" thick computer. We should have a choice.

Give us streamlined 1" thick, and give us an option for a more luggable (aka heavier, less portable) powerhouse.

PowerBook G4 Pro or something.

Apple's idea of "sex appeal" is far outwaying it's use of kick ass configs. You can't make a computer that awesome as small as the PB's. So make bigger ones too. Please.

Jaedreth
 
Gamers are not where the lions share of the laptop market is though. Most users tend to rank laptop features in the following order (1st two almost tied IMO): weight, battery life, screen size, performance, screen resolution, extras packaged with it.

That being said, Alienware's (awesome) laptops are not aiming for that crowd - they are aiming for the gamer, pure and simple.
 
jaedreth, the powerbooks DID kick that kind of ass when they were kept current. They were VERY close to the performance of the apple desktops, only 1" thick. This says more about how anemic the desktops had gotten than about the power of the laptops, IMO anyway. When the 970 gets a die shrink, maybe we'll have even more options, such as a massively clocked G5 powerbook (2.0? 2.5?) that eats batteries at an alarming rate and weighs in close to a baby elephant. This behemoth might sit next to a 1" powerbook that runs for 6 hours on a charge and weighs about 5#, only it does it with the massive power and bandwidth of a 1.4/1.6GHz G5 "M". The M5?
 
Re: G5 PowerMacs Shipping?

Originally posted by Macrumors
AppleInsider claims that "several of Apple's larger corporate and government customers" have already started receiving shipments of the PowerMac G5 in both single and dual configurations "a couple of weeks ago".

The Mac OS X 10.2.7 shipping with these machines is said to be a pre-release version -- as Apple seeded developers with a version of 10.2.7

This makes perfect sense if you consider the beta testers for hardware and software are under bulletproof NDA's yet are the very first to receive Rev001 hardware.

It also makes sense that they would be so gunshy about the NDA as to not even release details about early SHIPPING units under fear of random litigation or retribution.

After all, less than a few weeks later consumers will disclose plenty and they have PLENTY to lose, especially first access to 3ghz G5's and G6's.

I for one would hold back if I thought G6 access early and often would be the result.

Rocketman

Powerprint beta tester (yes it rocks)
 
Originally posted by yoshi1013
Dude, I don't know if there's been anything in my lifetime so far that has merited so much excitement and drool as this damn computer.

Exactly correct. Heck, even corporations are taking note. That's scary.

Originally posted by yoshi1013
I doubt PC Users out there get this excited about their computers.

Of course. They are commodities, not "insanely great" and observed from "reality distortion fields".

Rocketman
 
Originally posted by panphage
jaedreth, the powerbooks DID kick that kind of ass when they were kept current. They were VERY close to the performance of the apple desktops, only 1" thick. This says more about how anemic the desktops had gotten than about the power of the laptops, IMO anyway. When the 970 gets a die shrink, maybe we'll have even more options, such as a massively clocked G5 powerbook (2.0? 2.5?) that eats batteries at an alarming rate and weighs in close to a baby elephant. This behemoth might sit next to a 1" powerbook that runs for 6 hours on a charge and weighs about 5#, only it does it with the massive power and bandwidth of a 1.4/1.6GHz G5 "M". The M5?

ANd yet, without a faster memory bus or hard drives, the power-eating G5 laptop won't go appreciably faster than the G4 laptops for even the most computationally-intensive real-world applications...
 
Re: COmputer Excitement

Originally posted by jaedreth
quote:
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Originally posted by yoshi1013
I doubt PC Users out there get this excited about their computers.
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http://www.alienware.com/gaming_main_desktop.aspx

http://www.alienware.com/system_pages/area-51m.aspx

Apple has nowhere *NEAR* the price/feature ratio these guys have.

Nor do they have anywhere near the cosmetic options.

A friend of mine and myself got very excited looking over their website, and he's gonna buy one. I'm still undecided. I'll give Apple a chance, but I seriously doubt they will come out with systems *this* sweet.

Jaedreth
Nice, but you only get one CPU and no superdrive, though it is 300 dollar cheaper, and looks pretty cool . (the top end alienware)
 
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