G5 Quake 3 Bechmarks -- the final word?

[altivec 2003]

Originally posted by ZildjianKX
OMG... I'm starting to hate this Mac forum... do you guys know what OEM is? Original Equipment Manufacturer... it means this is the CD that is suppose to be sold to say Dell and Compaq... doesn't have the pretty box, etc. Microsoft has a contract with hardware vendors that anything that is Microsoft and OEM has to be sold with hardware... that's why most places throw in a free cable to meet this part of the contract. Just like
http://www.googlegear.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=604631
does if you go through the checkout process...

I swear, it would actually do some of you some good to go out and build your own PC sometime.

Dude, chill out!

I think what he Meant is that it would be legal for the guy to just sell it claiming that he is a hardware vendor. Don't you have to have some special liscense. Well anyhoo, 300 is the real price for windows even if you can find a cheap $130 oem on the internet.

In fact, i think we all kinda got a little off topic talking about how much windows costs. This thread is really about fact that apple's benchmarks might not, infact, be screwy and the g5 might turn out to be a great gaming machine. For the record, i think this forum is great and I personally dislike it when somebody says otherwise on the account of a few individuals. Even those individuals deserve more respect than you have given them. I also think that Arn deserves recognition for creating a forum where there is no obscene content unlike some other forums I can think of. Hey, if you really hate these boards leave, but these aren't for pointless hate. They are for learning and entertainment, unless I am mistaken.

 

[Jookbox]

dont worry about it zildjian. about 80% of the people that post here don't know crap about computers. you'd be surprised how many people here still believe windows is unstable.

 

[altivec 2003]

Originally posted by Jookbox
dont worry about it zildjian. about 80% of the people that post here don't know crap about computers. you'd be surprised how many people here still believe windows is unstable.

In addition to what i wrote above, people shouldn't be considered as not knowing crap about computers or be discriminated against as such. Sure we might not be gurus on peecees and their PRICES, but this is a mac forum, and i am sure that you could find people that know way more than you do. So, please don't talk bad about the forum members and have a nice day (sorry if that sounded a little mean, but really....)

edit:

Ok for something on topic, I am glad to hear about this good perfomance. My computer really sux for gaming mainly becuase i have a ati rage pro 128 with 16 megs of graphics memory. My chip isn't that great either (533g4) . I hope to get a new graphics card for my birthday which is tomorrow

 

[Schiffi]

lol, I'd like to see some original DOOM bechmarks. That'd be a sight to see.

OT: I've heard somewhere that the G5's will be OS9 bootable again, is this true?

 

[altivec 2003]

Originally posted by Schiffi
lol, I'd like to see some original DOOM bechmarks. That'd be a sight to see.

OT: I've heard somewhere that the G5's will be OS9 bootable again, is this true?

I really doubt that Apple would have gone and made the g5s OS9 bootable right after they just announced that they would only boot into OSX. I certainly wouldn't be unhappy if they did cause i still have software that will only run in OS9 (Connectix vgs) and software that is crappy in classic emulation (rebirth, etc). My dad would be really happy cause he doesn't have many OSX applications for his work besides a new version of matlab which he just got. He does not currently use OSX and is reluctant to go through the task of switching to a new OS despite how good it is.

 

[iJon]

man, all i know is i have seen a alot of new members posting on the boards lately ever since the g5 come out, and alot of them are defending pc's. we all know you can go build a pc that is cheaper than apple's we all know that. but it doesnt come with any support, which is what most consumers need. i built my computer, so i know how to fix whats wrong, but most people i know wouldnt know where to start if there computer broke. so building a pc you are loosing that support, because you dont know if you need to call asus, microsoft, creative, seagate, kingston, intel or anyone. on another note, i would like to see 3d mark ported to mac os x, that really tells us how these machines perform with the windows world.

iJon

 

[job]

i'd like to see some doom3 frame rates on the dual-2Ghz monster.

lets all make fun of the alienware towers....

 

[job]

Originally posted by iJon
on another note, i would like to see 3d mark ported to mac os x, that really tells us how these machines perform with the windows world.

that would be interesting, but isn't 3d mark based on DX? or does it run on openGL as well?

 

[iJon]

Originally posted by job
that would be interesting, but isn't 3d mark based on DX? or does it run on openGL as well?

yeah i forgot abotu it, it is dx. hell i dont even care how the mac performs with fps, we dont have enough games to justify it for a gaming machine.

iJon

 

[zimv20]

Originally posted by ZildjianKX
OMG... I'm starting to hate this Mac forum... do you guys know what OEM is? Original Equipment Manufacturer... it means this is the CD that is suppose to be sold to say Dell and Compaq... doesn't have the pretty box, etc. Microsoft has a contract with hardware vendors that anything that is Microsoft and OEM has to be sold with hardware... that's why most places throw in a free cable to meet this part of the contract. Just like
http://www.googlegear.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=604631
does if you go through the checkout process...

I swear, it would actually do some of you some good to go out and build your own PC sometime.

please accept my apologies for being such a f****** idiot.



you are my new knowledge guru. i would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

 

[fourthtunz]

Originally posted by ZildjianKX

I swear, it would actually do some of you some good to go out and build your own PC sometime.

Huh?
I guess learning is always good, but I'd rather watch my mac defrag than support Microslut.
daniel

 

[iJon]

Originally posted by fourthtunz
Huh?
I guess learning is always good, but I'd rather watch my mac defrag than support Microslut.
daniel

at least microslut has games to play.

iJon

 

[ZildjianKX]

Sorry if Iwas rude. Its really hard to compare Macs and PCs... if you go bleeding edge on both, then you're pretty much going to pay out the butt... Its just a lot easier to get a reasonably priced midranged computer than a mac unfortunately.

I just hope Apple didn't fudge their benchmarks... or its going to look really bad for them later.

Peace.

 

[job]

Originally posted by iJon
at least microslut has games to play.

i don't think the games situation with the mac is as bad as it was in '97~'99.

we have the hardware now. the triple-a games are coming to the mac, which is very different from the late 90s.

besides, not everything about a computer is about games.

 

[Dont Hurt Me]

Originally posted by job
i don't think the games situation with the mac is as bad as it was in '97~'99.

we have the hardware now. the triple-a games are coming to the mac, which is very different from the late 90s.

besides, not everything about a computer is about games.

true , and not only that i would like to see Doom3 on a dual,1.8,1.6 and pentium 4 3.06 gig. Ut2003 also ....come on apple step up to the plate.

 

[Flowbee]

Originally posted by ZildjianKX
I swear, it would actually do some of you some good to go out and build your own PC sometime.

People have been known to lead perfectly happy lives without knowing how to build a PC or what OEM means. I think most people's time would be better spent reading Proust or taking up jogging.

 

[fourthtunz]

Originally posted by iJon
at least microslut has games to play.

iJon

So you can build your Pc, and play games, and I'll watch my Macs drive defrag
Or I'll make some music or video.
But I won't do anything to support the least innovative company in computing

daniel

 

[fourthtunz]

Originally posted by ZildjianKX

I just hope Apple didn't fudge their benchmarks
Peace.

But what would happen if they did? Most Mac users will buy one because of the OS anyway, if it's faster so much the better
daniel

 

[iJon]

Originally posted by fourthtunz
So you can build your Pc, and play games, and I'll watch my Macs drive defrag
Or I'll make some music or video.
But I won't do anything to support the least innovative company in computing

daniel

cool, ill make some music and video too while i play games because my dual 1.25 is right next to my gaming machine. i dont care whose operating system it is, i use which has the games, and at the moment its not apple.

iJon

 

[fourthtunz]

Originally posted by iJon
. i dont care whose operating system it is, i use which has the games, and at the moment its not apple.

iJon

Ok, the way MS does business DOES bother me and evidently the Justice department too. Maybe there would be more games if MS played a little more fair
From what I understand, games are available for the Mac.
But I don't have time for them anyway, remember?
I'm watching my Mac defrag
daniel

 

[iJon]

Originally posted by fourthtunz
Ok, the way MS does business DOES bother me and evidently the Justice department too. Maybe there would be more games if MS played a little more fair
From what I understand, games are available for the Mac.
But I don't have time for them anyway, remember?
I'm watching my Mac defrag
daniel

isnt it the developers not wanting to support apple, instead of microsoft.

iJon

 

[fourthtunz]

Originally posted by iJon
isnt it the developers not wanting to support apple, instead of microsoft.

iJon

Exactly,but how did it get this way? All the good stuff started On the Mac right? Or Atari,or Amiga.
15 years ago what could you do on a pc compared to the Mac?
There is a reason for the lawsuit against MS.
Apple does not exist in a vacuum.
daniel

 

[Maclarny]

Forget about building a PC buy a frigging console...

Xbox - $179.99
Gamecube - $149.99
Playstation 2 - $179.99

 

[MrMacMan]

Originally posted by job
i don't think the games situation with the mac is as bad as it was in '97~'99.

we have the hardware now. the triple-a games are coming to the mac, which is very different from the late 90s.

besides, not everything about a computer is about games.

Seriously, gaming for the mac, IS getting better, devolpers will just take the mac more seriously then before with the release of the G5.

Chill iJon, it doesn't have every game I want, but every category is met.

 

[couch potato]

Originally posted by Jookbox
dont worry about it zildjian. about 80% of the people that post here don't know crap about computers. you'd be surprised how many people here still believe windows is unstable.

operating systems aren't technically stable or unstable. It just matters as to whether is locks up on someone, its not a fact. yeah, mac OS X is extremely stable, but its still liable to crash 0.1% of the time

windows isnt completely unstable, but it does have stability issues.