G5 Specs for WWDC!

[alexf]

Noise levels?

So does anyone have any guesses as to whether these new machines (if the rumors are in fact true) will be just as quiet as the current models (especially the 1.6 GHz, which I believe is the quietest) or will they sound like the last G4 tower incarnations?

 

[lem0nayde]

Dual 3.0GHz G5 Rendering.

 

[oingoboingo]

That instantly brought a smile to my face. We need some more of that kind of stuff to make these forums a little less serious sometimes. It's a rumours site, after all. Good work 🙂

 

[thatwendigo]

That. is. hilarious. 😛 😀

 

[Multimedia]

Apple Expo Is In Paris Tuesday August 31-Saturday September 4

my question is: when is this apple expo? isn't that far too late? i mean, i would need a new machine right now (for my graphic business) and i am stuck with an old dual g4 ...
.a

He's asking about Apple Expo In Paris August 31-September 4, not WWDC. Click Here To Register.

Apple will be at DV Expo East July 13-16 at New York City's Javits Center. Click here to Register for FREE.

Apple WILL NOT BE at MacWorld Expo Boston July 12-15. Click here to register for FREE with a priority code.

Apple will probably be at Seybold Seminars San Francisco Moscone West August 16-19. Click here to register for FREE.

Apple will be at San Francisco MacWorld Expo January 10-14, 2005 to show us a G5 PowerBook and the release of 10.4 Tiger. Click here to bookmark this link for registration in the Fall.

Feels like Paris might get Dual 3 GHz G5's for sale by August 31.

 

[Metatron]

Hack it please.

I would give anything to see someone hack that "Sweet Mother of God G5" image on the front page of the apple website....that would be classic. By the way, that is a crazy kool pic.

 

[szark]

That's almost perfect, but a dual G5 system should have two flame jets, not one. 😀

Otherwise, great job!

 

[cjc343]

that looks a LOT better than the Office box that's there right now.... Does M$ pay off Apple to do that? or is Apple marketing being stupid?

 

[jchand28]

HeatPipes - Aren't they in current G4 Powerbooks???

My 667 G4 Powerbook has something similar to what you described. Runs along the top of the Proc heatsinc parallel to the top/rear of machine.

Cooligy is very similar to current heat pipe solutions. This is not "water cooling". It's a bit more complicated than a circulating radiator setup like you'd find in an after market water cooling PC solution.
The G5 uses Heatpipes. If you take the covers off the heat sinks, you'll see that there are heat pipes embedded into the G5 heat sinks.

Here's some info on how heatpipes work...
http://www.cheresources.com/htpipes.shtml

 

[visor]

good grief

I could make up those specs by reading my hand.

 

[jihad the movie]

The new VapoChill case is around $800 and it comes standard on all of L's Mach desktops - probably the finest windows pc ever made.

I know this is very off topic but, Frozen CPU is based in my village, in fact, their store is right behind my house.

 

[Nemesis]

a*w*e*s*o*m*e

That's definitely more interesting that anything we've seen on Apple's web site recently, especially 1.25 GHz G4 eMacs! 😀

 

[iLilana]

video

better have the ati 800xt in it

 

[Naimfan]

ROFLMAO!

Perfect!

Bob

 

[orb]

I'm naming mine Trogdor!

 

[neonart]

I'm naming mine Trogdor!

The Burninator!

 

[Mord]

a minor note heatpipes are not new the dual 1.42GHz mdd g4 had on on it's giant copper heatsink cooling those hot hot hot overclocked 7455 g4's

 

[makkystyle]

that looks a LOT better than the Office box that's there right now.... Does M$ pay off Apple to do that? or is Apple marketing being stupid?

My guess is that it helps Apple promote the idea that MacOS is compatible with Windows. Fact is, many people still don't realize this.

 

[rainman::|:|]

A note on cooling methods.

Okay, a couple of thoughts.

When people say "water-cooling", they generally mean liquid cooling, active or passive. Water would, of course, be a poor choice, in as it's conductive (well, not distilled, but this isn't a lab setting) and it boils too readily. Sure, it could be played with, but why bother. Vegetable oil, for instance, is non-conductive and boils higher. People make very crude passive cooling systems by submerging a (usually heavily-overclocked) motherboard directly into a pool of oil, the cables just snake in. The oil in the center gets hot, moves to the top, is cooled, and moves down the sides. Pure convection. Anyway point is it's nonconductive, and something along these lines could easily be used. I'm sure whatever Cooligy uses is similar. But in a closed pipe this small, there's really no reason to worry about leakage, in a non-phase-change system, because we don't really need to use pressure. Plus, Cooligy uses a different type of pump, that's more in line with ion propulsion than the typical mechanical pump (and compressor) that is likely to blow in your car or home heat pump.

On to cooling pipes. These aren't as effective as an active liquid cooling system, and i think Apple was just experimenting with the G5s. These are more like the PowerBook version of a liquid-cooling system, assuming they don't want to use a Cooligy system in there. It has it's uses, but there are more effective methods that are just as safe and reliable.

paul

 

[SyndicateX]

Alright, 1 other quick question, Seeing as we expected Apple to keep the G5 name as if they would have released updates earlier this year everyone would be angry, but seeing as no releases have happened in a year, would it hurt or help apple to start offering its desktops with G6's? All in all it is just a name and a marketing ploy, but the new processor (just looking from the POWER5's simultaneous multi threading) could offer up to a 3x speed increase over the current dual 2.0ghz's.

Just wondering because if they get the iMacs and powerbooks up to G5's soon enough then it would still have alot of consumers wanting the desktops for the G6 instead of just buying a laptop. (Not talking about professional users who need speed, but just average consumers)

 

[windowsblowsass]

Okay, a couple of thoughts.

When people say "water-cooling", they generally mean liquid cooling, active or passive. Water would, of course, be a poor choice, in as it's conductive (well, not distilled, but this isn't a lab setting) and it boils too readily. Sure, it could be played with, but why bother. Vegetable oil, for instance, is non-conductive and boils higher. People make very crude passive cooling systems by submerging a (usually heavily-overclocked) motherboard directly into a pool of oil, the cables just snake in. The oil in the center gets hot, moves to the top, is cooled, and moves down the sides. Pure convection. Anyway point is it's nonconductive, and something along these lines could easily be used. I'm sure whatever Cooligy uses is similar. But in a closed pipe this small, there's really no reason to worry about leakage, in a non-phase-change system, because we don't really need to use pressure. Plus, Cooligy uses a different type of pump, that's more in line with ion propulsion than the typical mechanical pump (and compressor) that is likely to blow in your car or home heat pump.

On to cooling pipes. These aren't as effective as an active liquid cooling system, and i think Apple was just experimenting with the G5s. These are more like the PowerBook version of a liquid-cooling system, assuming they don't want to use a Cooligy system in there. It has it's uses, but there are more effective methods that are just as safe and reliable.

paul

actually cooligy does use water its conductivness is the key to its silent pump

 

[Sun Baked]

From ARS

Basis for this French RUMOR?

Originally posted by M.Isobe:
Those who believes http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve...5231&m=9080959175&r=596001844631#596001844631 should read http://blog.livedoor.jp/macworx/archives/679743.html.
French rumor makers often read Japanese site and posted the content to rumor sites. I have known MacBodouille posted such articles. Now, http://croquer.free.fr/ does the same thing.

Originally posted by kurtk:

Originally posted by M.Isobe:
Those who believes http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve...5231&m=9080959175&r=596001844631#596001844631 should read http://blog.livedoor.jp/macworx/archives/679743.html.
French rumor makers often read Japanese site and posted the content to rumor sites. I have known MacBodouille posted such articles. Now, http://croquer.free.fr/ does the same thing.

I could not read the rest from the Japanese site. Was he just guessing or did he claim to have some inside information?

Originally posted by M.Isobe:
http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve...5231&m=9080959175&r=112003054631#112003054631,

_I could not read the rest from the Japanese site. Was he just guessing or did he claim to have some inside information?_

The blog was written on May 19, 2004 (JST) and he wrote he was just guessing. Apparently, French person could not read Japanese too.

Look's like it may have just been speculation that was lifted off one site and posted as gospel on another. 🙄

From ARS

Course there is some stuff further on down the page on the 975, maybe. 😉

 

[jwhitnah]

Always

Since this is an update, not a new product, Apple will only announce it when it's ready to ship immediately. Apple ALWAYS does this for updates of existing products.

[insert sarcastic tone here] Oh, yeah like the PowerMac G4 500 MHz. Right on time 6 months or so late!

 

[wdlove]

Great job lem0nayde, that is awesome. Now for the reality and to have on on my desk. It brought a smile to my face also, thanks! 🙂

 

[Rod Rod]

The G6 is coming, FALL 2004, CONFIRMED

General Motors will start selling the G6 this Fall. http://www.pontiac.com/g6

Buy it and put one of your white Apple logo stickers on it. 🙂

Alright, 1 other quick question, Seeing as we expected Apple to keep the G5 name as if they would have released updates earlier this year everyone would be angry, but seeing as no releases have happened in a year, would it hurt or help apple to start offering its desktops with G6's? All in all it is just a name and a marketing ploy, but the new processor (just looking from the POWER5's simultaneous multi threading) could offer up to a 3x speed increase over the current dual 2.0ghz's.

Just wondering because if they get the iMacs and powerbooks up to G5's soon enough then it would still have alot of consumers wanting the desktops for the G6 instead of just buying a laptop. (Not talking about professional users who need speed, but just average consumers)