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G73jh Vs 17" Mbp

Well After spendig a lot of time searching for the right one, I chose MBP over G73 and yesterday I bought one. This is my first MBP and even first time I use OS X. I have to admit it, working with it after 9 years of working with Microsoft and Linux was a good experience! Mac :apple: High Five!

I went with MBP because:

1. It's battery life is longer
2. It's weight.Weight is important for me(actually I bought 15inch)
3. I have the option of programming in both windows and OS X environments.
4. MBP is simply much more nicer and sexier in comparison with g73 since it looks like an ugly giant plastic toy!
 
people just cant understand that an Apple computer is not a PC computer... you cant compare two different worlds...
 
I had the Asus for a month it was a total nightmre.

Also. can someone tell me why my girlfriend's outdated core 2 duo welding 13" MBP ran circles around a Laptop with triple the specs (in CPU, GPU) and double the ram? Oh yeah.... Windows >_>
 
Eidorian said:
If I was going to consider such a beast, I'd go for the base $1199 model. You get the Core i7-720QM in a huge range of versions. According to ASUS there are even Core i3 and i5 versions. (I've only seen the Clarksfield ones.) Those would be somewhat cheaper. Given ASUS' history with the Turbo33 buttons, I believe you'd be able to have the battery life of the Westmere with the ability to overclock when you need it.

If it was sporting an nVidia card you'd have a chance at Optimus as well. You'd get hot swappable power on the fly graphics and battery life. That is something that ATI needs to work on. Otherwise ATI is mobile DirectX 11 and higher performance per watt.
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ATI cards are hot swappable. Take a look at the new 14 inch Envy for example.
 
For some of you knocking the ASUS, it's a great value for the money if you are a hardcore gamer and don't mind a massive desktop replacement.

Also, ASUS is generally ranked among the highest in reliability, and I love its long standard warranties that include ACCIDENTAL DAMAGE!!!! :eek: :eek: :cool:
 
Meever said:
I had the Asus for a month it was a total nightmre.

Also. can someone tell me why my girlfriend's outdated core 2 duo welding 13" MBP ran circles around a Laptop with triple the specs (in CPU, GPU) and double the ram? Oh yeah.... Windows >_>
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OS X has trouble beating a OS that you can download for free like Ubuntu in terms of performance.

And Snow Leapord can't come close to Windows when it comes to graphic performance.

So the question more is, what are you doing with your computer and her MBP?
 
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Asus might be a better machine blah blah blah *yawn* but if it can't run Final Cut then, to me, the Asus is as useful as a used condom.
 
gwsat said:
When the last thread like this one kicked off, the thread saying that the Sony Vaio Z was the stone cold killer of the MBP, I foolishly got involved. But I have learned. Thus, what follows will be my first, and last, word in this thread.

PCs are PCs and Macs are Macs, especially in the case of laptops. Those of us who have been longtime owners of Powerbooks and Macbooks have learned to appreciate the reliability, brilliant design, and thinness of the Macbook lineup. And that's before we even mention than only Macs can run both OS X and Windows apps right out of the box.

It seems to me that threads like this one mostly serve as soapboxes for those who hate Macs. Those folks, you know who they are, seem to be more envious than hateful, though. Why else would they say that those of us who still buy Macbook Pros are stupid, foolish, ill informed, ad nauseam. No comparison of the Macbook Pro's features to those of any just released flavor of the week Windows laptop makes their kind of wining a bit more convincing, at least not to me.

Good night and good luck. :)
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i agree,

when i turn on a windows machine....its the same old

when i turn on osx machine....its an exciting adventure everytime! (minds out of the gutter on this one)

i like simplified computing, osx is just that, i can plug in my phone....download my pictures into iphoto, edit , store and print them right from there, i decided to do some more photography and wanted a little more editing power so i bought aperture for $220 which again is simple for me and many of the people i know and it gets the job done well.

the user experience is what makes osx what it is, ASUS does not have that and microsoft will never have it with windows 7, when they have the worst mobile windows os thats possible.
 
I've owned many MBPs. I currently have a 13" MBP for work. I also own the G73 OP was comparing. That said, the G73 is bulky and heavy. With both hard drives installed it weighs 8 lbs not 7. Additionally, the battery life under heavy load is more like 1.5 hours. I never use it w/o power connected. However, it has the best cooling I've ever seen. I've played games for hours and never seen temps on the CPU/GPU exceed 70 C. The MBP gets way hotter playing under Windows and the fans run at full speed almost the entire session. Also, you can upgrade optical drives, Wifi cards, RAM and Hard Drives very easily in the G73 and ASUS uses std 12.7 mm optical drives so replacements are easy. Many people buy the $1199 Best Buy version and upgrade the DVDRW to BD-ROM afterward.

I believe the G73 is a very good value for the money. For games or any graphic intensive application the G73 will run circles around a MBP in Windows. That's the most important distinction. No OS X on the G73. For most people here that it, end of discussion.

However, for those of us who truly enjoy OS X and would like the advanced features currently available Apple offers nothing for us. I want 8GB of RAM and a true Quad core multi-thread CPU for running VMware. I want a blazing fast dedicated GPU for playing games and I want a Blu-ray player for watching one of my 1080p films on the road while I travel. Because I want all these thing I must buy a Windows laptop and at times travel with both.

Blu-ray and better GPUs on a Mac are possible. All it takes is the will to do so. Jobs does not want Blu-ray on the Mac and no matter how unreasonable many of us believe his stance to be; his word is law (for as long as he runs Apple).

The high cost of 9.5mm slot-loading Blu-ray drives is only an issue on Apple notebooks (Apple's obsession with thin aside). Because they are prohibitively expensive, a simple external option would be fine as an interim solution for the notebooks. Sure beats carrying my Windows notebook in addition to my Mac. An external 12.7mm slot or tray load drive would cost less than $100. I bought several a few months back on eBay between $65 & $79 each.

The one thing the Apple apologists are right about -- is Jobs' successful transition of Apple from a computer company to a consumer electronics trendsetter. This transition makes Apple in general (and Jobs in particular) much less concerned with the wants, needs or desires of it's former core constituency (graphic professionals and computer enthusiasts). Apple can afford to alienate a segment of their buyers and still remain very profitable, even growing the business as they move into new markets.

I am very frustrated by this because I want many of the advanced features currently denied me by the "new" Apple. Frustration aside, I personally helped bring Macs into our company and continue to advocate their use as a business tool. iPods, iPads and iPhones are heavily used in my family and among my co-workers. I don't resent these products or the change they represent.

What I resent is how easily forgotten the faithful have become. Apple would never have survived to hire Jobs back without these forgotten people yet many of these very people feel the most betrayed.

The new adherents to the Apple faith wax rhapsodic about the virtues of the coming digital utopia of cloud-based storage and vast libraries of content available whenever and wherever you desire. Like any new convert they are fanatical in their devotion not just to the idea but to the man they believe responsible for making it all possible.

Failing to blindly follow this or any new path without question is not being resistant to change or dogmatic in outlook. Respect for the old ways is good. Properly bridging the gap between old and new ways of doing business is healthy. Perhaps downloads and clouds are the future, perhaps not. Until the largest consumer of such content (The United States) vastly improves broadband infrastructure for everyone we need to utilize that which works for the majority of people. Physical media for video and games (though for games this is changing more rapidly) isn't going away anytime soon.

Apple can keep its new faithful happy while not leaving those early believers behind. Adding Blu-ray support and offering more GPU or other advanced features/options (I gratefully acknowledge the long-awaited hi-res 15" MBP) are small things that would mean a lot to an admittedly dwindling percentage of Mac owners. Let's try not to forget that.

If Apple did this we wouldn't even need to consider a G73.

Cheers,
 
mark28 said:
Mine arrives in 2-3 weeks. ;)

But I have played with plenty of MBP's before to know what their performance is.

My findings are similiar to what the benchmarks say so far.
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Your "findings"? After playing for a few minutes? To evaluate a product, imo, you need weeks or even months using the product, in different situations.

Mac OSX is simply a better OS in terms of multitasking, connectivity, and simplicity. You pay more for the hardware, but it works in a much cleaner and better way than most Windows laptops.

Mac is simply a better computer for working. I admit that a small portion of the market has program compatibility issues, but they don't count for the majority.

On the outside, apart from looking great, everything works just without thinking. Things such as backlit keyboard, no searching for the ports (where is that damn usb port, on the left, front, back or right?), amazing trackpad, metal body (conducts heat away from the device), and magsafe connector.

Whereas in Windows, when I'm bored, I absent mindedly mess about with some menus, settings, etc, when I got my Mac, I found that there was literally nothing that burnt up my time. I work, I surf the internet, I listen to music - whatever, I do exactly what I want to do, nothing else.
 
Patrick J said:
Mac OSX is simply a better OS in terms of multitasking, connectivity, and simplicity.
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This is simply not true. Windows multitasks better (it has IO scheduling as well), and has better connectivity (drivers for every device you'd ever want to connect to a machine). Simplicity is subjective.

The Asus G73jh will tear off a macbook's head and piss down its neck if you compare benchmarks. Amusingly, this thread started before the i5/i7 MBPs were released, and the performance gap hasn't really changed.

I like my Macbook Pro for its big multitouch trackpad with good drivers (something no PC laptop has) and its good battery life. It's a solid package and is aesthetically pleasing.

Why do you have to make stuff up to feel secure about yourself in your computer choice?

Edit: Why can't you enjoy your computer for what it is?
 
mark28 said:
ATI cards are hot swappable. Take a look at the new 14 inch Envy for example.
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It's manual vs. automated but in the end it's the same. I've heard many people prefer the manual swap as it is.

ATI is rumored to be working on their own Optimus-like hot swapping in their next general of mobile GPUs.
 
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