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The Lumia is a Guinea Pig. It will only improve future Retinal scanners. My SP4 has one too. I like it thus far.
 
Yeah that I admit was a gimmick.

From personal experience though, 3D Touch sounded way cooler than it is in practice. I guess it's personal difference.

2Gb ram was my favorite addition . Had my iPhone 6 Plus had that, I would not have upgraded.

That's weird because I thought Live Photos was a gimmick and 3D Touch was a superb feature, yet almost the opposite seems true now I actually have the phone. I love love photos and only occasionally used 3D Touch.
 
That's weird because I thought Live Photos was a gimmick and 3D Touch was a superb feature, yet almost the opposite seems true now I actually have the phone. I love love photos and only occasionally used 3D Touch.

I admit I myself have used Live Photos more than 3D Touch...
 
At the time, it was the highest density phone screen.

Don't be so patronising.
don't be so precious for crying out loud.. the term retina display is a joke.. rolled out to mask low res screens pretending to be HD. and guess who falls for it hook line and sinker....
 
don't be so precious for crying out loud.. the term retina display is a joke.. rolled out to mask low res screens pretending to be HD. and guess who falls for it hook line and sinker....

That might be true right now, but when the iPhone 4 was new, the Retina display was the highest resolution phone screen. After its introduction, the competition worked to beat it - which was my original point.

I agree right now that Apple touting "Retina HD" on the iPhone 6 as "higher than a 720p display! :eek:" was ridiculous. It should have been 1080p on the iPhone 6 and 2K on the 6 Plus.

However, in other products the "Retina" resolutions are quite impressive - the 5K iMac, for example. And the 15" Retina MacBook Pro is among only a handful of laptops to have such a nice screen. It was certainly one of the first to have such a high res screen - joined later on by the Chromebook Pixel, etc.
 
That might be true right now, but when the iPhone 4 was new, the Retina display was the highest resolution phone screen. After its introduction, the competition worked to beat it - which was my original point.
Nope, I think your point specifically was that the original retina display was high resolution. .

Which we have now ascertained as being wrong. .regardless of what comes after, it is either high resolution (HD) or isn't, and 640p in anyone's language. .. ISN'T!!!

The fastest car in 1953 was fast (for The year).but it never went supersonic. . Do you follow..
 
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Nope, I think your point specifically was that the original retina display was high resolution. .

Which we have now ascertained as being wrong. .regardless of what comes after, it is either high resolution (HD) or isn't, and 640p in anyone's language. .. ISN'T!!!

The fastest car in 1953 was fast (for The year).but it never went supersonic. . Do you follow..

Understood. You're right, and I was calling it 'high resolution for 2010' the same way one might say 'the car was fast, for 1953'. If that was unclear in the original comment, my bad.

Also, it's worth noting that it's difficult to claim a resolution is 'high' or 'low' in absolute terms. An HD TV from 2006 would have been seen as high res, where as today it's standard; nothing to brag about.

Now, the iPhone display is, at best, 'average' when it comes to PPI. But in 2010 it was 'high'.
 
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No, Apple Pay was not just a more thought out version of Google Wallet. Pre 2014, in the Android vs iPhone debate, no one said 'well, I can use my Android phone to pay for things, you can't do that on iPhone'.

Actually, Android users did say that. They also said that they could just put their phones back to back and transfer contacts, photos, links, etc... something Apple still does not allow over NFC.

Its all moot anyway as the first phone to make a leap in screen size was the iPhone. Apple made a big screen, their competitors made one bigger. (Steve Jobs in 2007: 'we got rid of all those buttons and just made a giant screen'.)

There had been 3.5"+ screens on smartphones since around 2000. Heck, for that matter, the very first smartphone on the planet, the 1993 Simon, was a 4.5+" touchscreen device.

At the time, it was the highest density phone screen.

Apple was not first with a "retina" screen, not by years. At the same time that the first iPhone was going on sale in summer 2007, Toshiba was selling their G900 Protege, a WM 6 Professional smartphone with 800x480 screen at 311 DPI, and even a fingerprint sensor that could recognize different fingers to unlock and launch different apps.

At this point, every phone is borrowing from other phones, but Samsung is just soooooo shameless about it.

At least Samsung has an excuse. They come from a culture where it's considered normal to borrow the best ideas. It's not a better or worse system, it's just different.

Apple, on the other hand, is an American company, but I don't think it's considered especially honorable in America to try to grab credit for, and sole ownership of, mostly generic inventions and words, just to prevent anyone else from using them from then on. E.g. hot links, slide to unlock, and the name "Multi-touch".
 
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don't be so precious for crying out loud.. the term retina display is a joke.. rolled out to mask low res screens pretending to be HD. and guess who falls for it hook line and sinker....
720P on a flagship phone is unacceptable,The S6 has nearly twice that.Betcha they do it to keep their fat margins
 
Understood. You're right, and I was calling it 'high resolution for 2010' the same way one might say 'the car was fast, for 1953'. If that was unclear in the original comment, my bad.

Also, it's worth noting that it's difficult to claim a resolution is 'high' or 'low' in absolute terms. An HD TV from 2006 would have been seen as high res, where as today it's standard; nothing to brag about.

Now, the iPhone display is, at best, 'average' when it comes to PPI. But in 2010 it was 'high'.
Are you saying terms for high resolution aka HD change over the years.. There's me thinking they were fixed at 720 and 1080p...my bad..
 
For all who is saying Samsung Pay is a copy of Apple Pay. Let me use what Apple users love to say when Apple copies anyone. Samsung took the idea of Apple Pay (although Google Wallet was first but Apple users claim Samsung did it because of Apple Pay) and made it LEAPS and BOUNDS better than Apple Pay.

Apple Pay is half baked (sounds familiar?), Samsung made paying with your phone much more functional and BETTER.
Samsung Pay can be used anywhere unlike Apple Pay.

Now I bet Apple defenders are going to say it does not matter Samsung still copied Apple. However when Apple copies someone else they say oh it was half baked / not as useful / was rushed / etc.

Stop complaining about copying, their is so much Apple has copied...who cares? Would you prefer to not have 3rd party keyboards, widgets, quick toggles, always on siri, "hey siri", actionable notifications, split screen multitasking, bigger screens, quick charge / wireless charging (when Apple finally gets this).

If it wasn't for Android Manufacturers you would still be using a 3.5 inch screen.
 
Says soneone who has never used one, and is just hoping to get something to deflect from the embarrassing screen that is the 6s..

I have one, loaning it to my sister to have her use it as a wifi device. There were two reasons why I left. I tried it again recently and the reasons remain. But think whatever you want.

It's similar to the iPhone 6

And I think we can all agree the 6S battery life isn't good. But the 6S is also about 2/3 the size in terms of battery. I think the S6 would have been better served with 1080p.

Are you saying terms for high resolution aka HD change over the years.. There's me thinking they were fixed at 720 and 1080p...my bad..

No, he's saying high as in "that number is high" not as in HD.
 
So you have mind reading abilities now... well done sir. .

No, I just have the ability to use reading comprehension. It's magical. You read sentences and then deduce meanings. You see, he said he was saying it in the same way somebody would say a car was fast for 1953. That means he isn't using high definition as in HD but like I put.
 
Are you saying terms for high resolution aka HD change over the years.. There's me thinking they were fixed at 720 and 1080p...my bad..

Yeah, I was. You're right that "HD" is a standard and I was using "high resolution" as a relative term.

Like now, if there was a phone with a 4K screen, I'd say "wow the resolution is really high" - like people said about the Retina Display on the iPhone 4, back in 2010.
 
Understood. You're right, and I was calling it 'high resolution for 2010' the same way one might say 'the car was fast, for 1953'. If that was unclear in the original comment, my bad.

Also, it's worth noting that it's difficult to claim a resolution is 'high' or 'low' in absolute terms. An HD TV from 2006 would have been seen as high res, where as today it's standard; nothing to brag about.

Now, the iPhone display is, at best, 'average' when it comes to PPI. But in 2010 it was 'high'.

Retina in theory relates to what you ACTUALLY CAN SEE, tangible benefit for most people

While whatever idiotic number Samsung and LG puts on their phone * 1.2 (for pentile loss) has mostly impact on marketing, with benefits for most users with normal eyes and normal use being ZERO

And even for the minority of people with very good eyesight the benefits are not wam bam either; there but minimal.

Test of resolution of eyesight are done with printed material of infinite contrast in perfect lighting condition.
No Cell phone screen of any tech is close to that. So, any one trotting out those "studies" should just stop.

Considering the quite bad impact on battery and performance of over speccing the screen, the whole thing is even more idiotic; the point of smart phone is actually being able to use it, not watching a high spec black screen (dead battery) or having to enduring a low performing slide show (as the GPU/CPU) throttles.
 
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I have one, loaning it to my sister to have her use it as a wifi device. There were two reasons why I left. I tried it again recently and the reasons remain. But think whatever you want.



And I think we can all agree the 6S battery life isn't good. But the 6S is also about 2/3 the size in terms of battery. I think the S6 would have been better served with 1080p.



No, he's saying high as in "that number is high" not as in HD.
I don't even know how you can conclude the 6S and S6 to be the same.Thats a 2K AMOLED pushing more than double the pixels the 6S handles and yet it's able to outlast the 6A

Also how come you don't like the S6.Majority fall in love with the phone just by looking at the gorgeous display.Makes the iPhone looks washed out in comparison
 
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Retina in theory relates to what you ACTUALLY CAN SEE, tangible benefit for most people

While whatever idiotic number Samsung and LG puts on their phone * 1.2 (for pentile loss) has mostly impact on marketing, with benefits for most users with normal eyes and normal use being ZERO

And even for the minority of people with very good eyesight the benefits are not wam bam either; there but minimal.

Test of resolution of eyesight are done with printed material of infinite contrast in perfect lighting condition.
No Cell phone screen of any tech is close to that. So, any one trotting out those "studies" should just stop.

Considering the quite bad impact on battery and performance of over speccing the screen, the whole thing is even more idiotic; the point of smart phone is actually being able to use it, not watching a high spec black screen (dead battery) or having to enduring a low performing slide show (as the GPU/CPU) throttles.
Lol! You're one of the person who believes the lies Apple stated that humans can't see beyond 300 pixels right?

If I can look at a 720p display phone and a 2k display phone WITHOUT my glasses and see a big difference then I don't need anymore proof.

Now 1080p I think would be fine for most people. However once virtual reality gets more popular, 1080p is garbage. Based on your post I am assuming you have no experience using VR. Using VR on a 2k screen you can see every pixels quite easily. VR on a 1080p is almost unusable.
 
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I don't even know how you can conclude the 6S and S6 to be the same.Thats a 2K AMOLED pushing more than double the pixels the 6S handles and yet it's able to outlast the 6A

Also how come you don't like the S6.Majority fall in love with the phone just by looking at the gorgeous display.Makes the iPhone looks washed out in comparison

Battery life
Bug where it refuses to resume podcasts. Tried it with PocketCasts and Podcast Addict. I have to click repeatedly for it to. Hard for me to explain, but annoying when I'm trying to listen to podcasts at work.

The screen is amazing, the device is fast, but it messes up in a couple areas that I consider important. When I was first using it, it kept crashing the podcast app when I was using it due to the way it handled memory. Now it's just a few minor annoyances that keep me from it.

For the record, though, I do like the S6. I wish it worked better for my needs, to be honest, because everything about it is so nice. But I listen to podcasts all night at work. Even as small a bug as the one I mentioned it becomes a bigger problem when it keeps happening. The 6S+ I have doesn't have that problem, so I stick with it.
 
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