Come on, your anti-Apple stance is well documented on these forums. Who the hell wants to deal with owning tablets in two form factors running 2 different OSs and using 2 different app stores?
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Come on, your anti-Apple stance is well documented on these forums. Who the hell wants to deal with owning tablets in two form factors running 2 different OSs and using 2 different app stores?
I have froyo 2.2 on my phone and the second I used it (as well as 2.1, since they are basically the same) knew it would be a joke on a tablet and not translate well.
It's good on a phone, but not on a tablet. The same can be said about iOS, it's kind of a joke on a tablet, BUT the big and nice 10 inch screen, coupled with the huge library of apps in the app store make it OK. The navigation its self is not great on the iPad, as it's just a big iphone interface, but the apps save it. Android doesn't have the same library of decent apps.
Personally, I'm not seeeing anything wrong with how iOS works with the iPad. Could you explain what you feel is wrong? How would you change the interface to better suit a tablet?
It's basically a list of apps on a home screen. You click on the apps, they open and perform their function, and that is the end of the story. The iPad it's self, like a super nintendo, is nothing without apps (if you include the built in apps, it literally doesn't do ANYTHING without apps). So in that sense it's more like a game boy than a computer. It needs to evolve to have an 'active' home screen, much like the one shown on the demo video for android honeycomb. It needs widgets or some other sort of information hub available without opening up an app to give it more of a compute feel. Now android 2.2 can have these, but they aren't optimized for a tablet format. Perhaps apples new mission control feature for OS X lion would be a good type of thing to really bring the iPad experience together and make it more coherent like a multitasking computer, and less fragmented like a gameboy. If you had a screen where you could see open apps, frequently run apps, weather/facebook/twitter/financial widgets, etc... and use that to spring to whatever type of computing you want to do, would be great.
The main reason why android is a much better experience as a phone than iOS is because of their drop down notification menu (download/install progress, update notifications, email, text, phone call notifications, toggles for gps/wifi, etc...) and their live widgets. Having a calendar widget, weather widget, news widget, facebook widget, and twitter widget makes me phone experience awesome. At a quick glance from my pocket I can get updates on ALL of those things, instead of having to open a half dozen apps on the iphone/ipad to get them (no matter what way you argue that is NOT convenient and would take a much longer time to do). Now if you're on a tablet I think the notification bar is less important, but the widget type things are much more important.
Fixed that for you.
You must be kidding. Everyone I know uses a mixture of devices and does quite well.
My married kids have husbands with Android or iPhones, and wives with iPhones or Pixis.
We all use both Windows and OSX computers.
We also use TVs, DVRs and DVD players from multiple vendors, each with their own little remote control types.
Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if in a few months if I had not only the iPad and Tab, but also a Playbook and whatever the WebOS tablet is going to be called.
Why not? Each has its strengths. Life need not be monotone.
Thanks for the explanation. I totally agree with the need for a better notification system, but have to disagree with needing widgets to make it feel like a computer. Not that I don't think widgets are useful, I'd certainly like to see them added to iOS, but just that, well, my computers don't have widgets either! And computers don't do anything until you add programs to them, so if you say that makes an iPad like gameboy, I think all computers are like gameboys, too. But maybe I'm showing my age when I say this. I guess my image of computers is still fixed at those DOS machines, which just gave you a blank screen and a blinking cursor when you turned them on, and didn't do anything until you typed in a command.
I've an iPad (wifi) and a Galaxy Tab and can honestly say that I've not picked up the iPad since (though my wife's addiction to bejeweled has something to do with that). Despite Job's stance I think the 7" form factor is perfect. Much much lighter than the iPad (this is significant), similar resolution (1024x600 vs 1024x768), and of course has inbuilt 3G, GPS, dual cameras, phone calling (I'm in the UK where we're allowed such things), and all for less than the price of the cheapest iPad. I also love Android as an OS so I'm obviously biased, but I think the Tab is the perfect crossover between a phone and a tablet. The iPad wins in app presentation a lot of the time, but it's a one trick pony compared to the Tab, and has that awful reliance on iTunes. No reason why you can't have both though .
.Thanks for the explanation. I totally agree with the need for a better notification system, but have to disagree with needing widgets to make it feel like a computer. Not that I don't think widgets are useful, I'd certainly like to see them added to iOS, but just that, well, my computers don't have widgets either! And computers don't do anything until you add programs to them, so if you say that makes an iPad like gameboy, I think all computers are like gameboys, too. But maybe I'm showing my age when I say this. I guess my image of computers is still fixed at those DOS machines, which just gave you a blank screen and a blinking cursor when you turned them on, and didn't do anything until you typed in a command.
You're right, i guess that gameboy analogy was bad. All computers are indeed like gameboys in that sense. I guess what I mean is it would be nice to have a unified homescreen with widgets and other notifications to make it feel more complete, and make it feel like it operates as one cohesive unit, instead of a bunch of separate apps.
Sure, notifications and widgets are nice, but I'm not seeing how they have anything to with cohesion. I don't have much experience with Android, but I'm guessing not all users want the same combination of widgets and notifications, and if it's not customizable, then "cohesion" would be a bad thing, IMO. And if it is customizable, then I imagine there wouldn't be much cohesion once a user finishes cusomizing it to their preferences. Or perhaps I'm not getting what you mean by "cohesion"?
the way i look at it is if your going to spend 500 anyway might as well just get the ipad. better battery life and more. its a superior device in my eyes. im not saying the tab is bad. its really nice actually. but for the same money, the ipad is nicer
Just to say, for the record. I'm pretty sure at some stage I am going to also buy an Android Tablet as I enjoy the technical side of things.
I won't sell the iPad.
This is the difference perhaps between many Mac users and PC users.
I've heard the reason for buying a Mac is that you just sit down, run the software, do the task and move on.
That's great, but for someone like myself so enjoys computers even if I have no job to do that's just boring.
Some people make a Mac sound like it's the computer for people who have no interest in computers.
I will just enjoy an Android tablet at offering me a different experience, and perhaps the ability do some things I cannot do with an Apple tablet.
I know there is nothing on the market yet I wish to buy, but when Honeycomb comes out and they mature a bit more I'm certain they will be excellent.
When I have both devices I will be able to give an honest and genuine opinion as to which if the better format.
Until then I shall continue to use and enjoy my iPad.
I won't sell the iPad.
This is the difference perhaps between many Mac users and PC users.
I've heard the reason for buying a Mac is that you just sit down, run the software, do the task and move on.
That's great, but for someone like myself so enjoys computers even if I have no job to do that's just boring.
Some people make a Mac sound like it's the computer for people who have no interest in computers.
I will just enjoy an Android tablet at offering me a different experience, and perhaps the ability do some things I cannot do with an Apple tablet.
I know there is nothing on the market yet I wish to buy, but when Honeycomb comes out and they mature a bit more I'm certain they will be excellent.
When I have both devices I will be able to give an honest and genuine opinion as to which if the better format.
Until then I shall continue to use and enjoy my iPad.
Apple's strengths I believe is in the UI.. I think the iPad's OS looks nice and thought out and neat compared to the android having things kind of everywhere.
but It's all just opinion
that and the fact that at least with the iPad I have an option to bring it in to my place of education to function as a computer with pages, etc.
The tab allows me to maybe enter a web page address, its just too close to a phone
but It's all just opinion
that and the fact that at least with the iPad I have an option to bring it in to my place of education to function as a computer with pages, etc.
The tab allows me to maybe enter a web page address, its just too close to a phone
This is going to come across rude, but it's not meant to. It's just an observation from someone new to iOS products.
I barely feel the iPad has a user interface.
It's got a static background with chunky icons on a fixed grid that you press to run the program.
It's about as simple and a basic as anyone could think of.
The Folders make a lot of difference as finally you can at least put some order to things.
But as someone who enjoys a UI with some options and customisation, as I say it's about a simple as it can be. A bit too simple for me, but there you go.
Its not the same money. The Tab is 350 for a 3G device. The equivalent iPad is almost twice that.
The Tab also includes front and rear facing cameras, plus double the RAM.
(I think we all expect iPad v2 to add most or all of that.)
But you HAVE to get a data plan with the Tab if you buy it for $350. Multiply 24 times the monthly cost of the plan. Please include all the taxes and fees.
The least expensive Tab without a data plan is a $100 MORE expensive than the least expensive iPad. Yes the Tab includes 3G crap and the iPad don't, but why pay extra for a "feature" that I will NEVER use.
Seven inch screen? Cool. Seven inch widescreen? Not cool. You can keep the widescreen.
A proper comparison is the ipad with 3g which is $629. That price is the same or more expensive than a contract less Tab depending on which carrier you buy it from. The screen of the tab may be smaller but you get a front facing camera, rear facing camera, custom-ability, and flash to some if very important.
Both devices have their place to you the ipad may be the best device to another the tab. For me the tab was better. I had an ipad for 7 months, jailbroken. I just got tired of having to use itunes for everything. The one thing that I love above all else about the tab is the ability to plug it into any pc or mac and drop files on it. A file system is essential for me. The sandbox that is the ipad wasn't for me.
Wrong. iPad you have a CHOICE. Do you want 3G or not. The Tab you have to buy the 3G radio. So the price comparison of the Tab to a non 3G iPad is a valid comparison.
I purchased a wifi only iPad because I knew I wouldn't be using the the 3G. Saved $130 instead of paying for a useless "feature" . The cameras mean that I can't take the Tab to work. iPad doesn't have the stupid cameras, therefore CAN be taken to work. I run Click to Flash on the iMac at home. Other than for testing purposes, I have never clicked to run flash. However, I use the iPad for 99% of my web surfing, and I find the lack of flash a feature that I would pay for.
And where I work some places you can't take any type of electronics device into, cell phone, ereader, ipad, tab, DS, PSP, doesn't matter.
I am not going to get into an argument with you about which is better. Like I said they both have their places and for me the Tab was a better choice.
350 is not a real price since you have to have a contract which adds to the cost, if you were to buy the tab w/o plan its 500.