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I hope the revised greys are part of a "classic" look or something. Personally I think it looks terrible especially on the "About this Mac" screen shot.

Dare I say it, but it looks dated compared to Vista *ducks*.
 
I, too, like the lighter grayish/whites found in the horizontal scrollbars in that screenshot, and those found in the current mail.

Whatever they do, I just hope it's not like iTunes 7. Yucky doo doo! I dislike the matte business. (Pinstripes where good, but that's old stuff now... and I dislike brushed metal too (UNO!) but I know they're getting rid of that too.)

Hmm... what about something totally new? Where windows reflected each other just a bit? or something like multiple person iChat video chats, and the entering and exiting frontrow sorta gray gradient (but not necessarily this media-feeling color scheme) backdrop 3d reflectiony thingy?
 
This is the kind of stuff I come here for. im completely serious. I think about it like this all the time. This is pure brain juice. Creative genious and fun in a back to the future kind of way. everyone knows its coming. we just want apple to go there first. This is what makes these rumors fun. puttings things together. mental puzzles. ahhh. i got my fix for the night

Also, on a side note of my own speculation. Quickview; why couldnt it work like, when you move your mouse over it, without clicking a button, a mini preview of the whatever it is kinda genies forward, very fast, smooth and subtle. Kind of like when you put your mouse over the rss button in safari, but 3d and genie effect like.very quick.somehow this to me has the convinience and wow factor. anyway, just being creative.

hopefully the dark grey is a placeholder for something innovative. who cares what color apple makes the scroll bars. I'm hoping that apple doesn't just make a resolution indipendant version of aqua. we need less windows, less hierarchy, less clutter.

Dashboard, spotlight, the dock and expose are all about the frustrating reality of a window system and the need to get over it. The signs are everywhere, multitouch, Zuis, the 3d interfaces, projectors, audiopad. Windows are just a graphical interpretation of text based interfaces. we now have the technology to interact more directly with out information and calculations.

give the programmer the option to design his own theme. Simplicity is not skin deep.
 
Sad, you can have basically the same look with ShapeShifter + Aqua Extreme theme now (and could have for some time):

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I'm guessing they're introducing a 'bogus change' to see what breaks - to test developers adoption of interfacing rules and that they have a 'wow' GUI hiding in the wings...

at least I sincerely hope so because gray is the colour of battleships, prison and the colour of the sky over mount doom.:rolleyes:
 
for some reason i want my mac to look like Vista. Vista looks very sexy. Too bad everything else on it sux... Well maybe not DX10

oh no he didn't!

one reason why i think vista looks sexy to some is that it's new, and it's fresh. really, it's just different. os x 10.4's been around for two years now, and people are bound to get tired of the look no matter how great the functionality of the os. it's why i'm hoping leopard will be radically different from a visual perspective. i wish wwdc were tomorrow and not nab.

Call me crazy, but I miss the pinstripes. :eek:

i miss the pinstripes, too. :(
 
I'm guessing the more unified look would make it easier for Apple to overhaul the entire GUI all at once. That Quick Look interface looks damn sexy and is more in style with the Front Row, Apple TV and even iPhone interfaces. My two cents are that Leopard's GUI will be something like that.
 
I'm guessing they're introducing a 'bogus change' to see what breaks - to test developers adoption of interfacing rules and that they have a 'wow' GUI hiding in the wings...

at least I sincerely hope so because gray is the colour of battleships, prison and the colour of the sky over mount doom.:rolleyes:

I guess it depends on if you are wanting to use your Mac to do things (i.e. as a productivity tool) or you just want it to sit there looking pretty.
 
..Apple. I can already do this and it looks better:

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I want something to wow me. Not something which I looks no better/not as good as my current set-up.

BTW - That's Shapeshifter + the '7' theme.
 
same as always. No big changes. Dang you apple

Amen. :rolleyes:

I know it isn't happening in Leopard but I wish Apple would get into the 21st century and get an integrated PIM. Individual apps for E-mail, calendar, contacts, and todos is so 1990's. All your organizational data in one app. How much simpler could you get?
 
Why are the majority of people commenting on this new look as if it is the finished thing with only a handful of people every now and again saying they expect to see a GUI overhaul when they announce the rest of the features.

Isn't it totally obvious to everyone in the entire world that they are going to do a massive overhaul of the GUI? Vista just came out with a fresh new look and Apple MUST respond. You cant run a business up against a massive market leader and not respond to the new features they introduce. Changing the subtleties of the interface is not going to be all that Apple do. They are going to introduce some mega new interface.

The fact that Apple is still holding out on several features of Leopard, and the fact that a completely new GUI would warrant a demonstration by Jobs himself gives us reason to believe that they would never show the new interface in these developer seeds.

As for what the theme is going to be, I think that is pretty obvious as well. AppleTV and the iPhone's interfaces tell you everything you need to know. Black is in at the moment, as Vista has shown, and Apple is going to wow everyone with the prettiest black and transparent interface yet seen. Every new Apple app of recent times has introduced some element of black and transparent interface such as cover flow in iTunes and this IS going to be the basis of the new theme. Hell, even the Apple website is slowly adding more and more black pages. Black is the new look!

Anyone who assumes that these developer seeds are exclusively showing off what the new interface will be like are frankly crazy.
 
Amen. :rolleyes:

I know it isn't happening in Leopard but I wish Apple would get into the 21st century and get an integrated PIM. Individual apps for E-mail, calendar, contacts, and todos is so 1990's. All your organizational data in one app. How much simpler could you get?


Not a good idea in my opinion. Too much clutter, I would much rather prefer individual apps. Then again, the only main one I use is Mail. I would use iCal, but it would be mainly for school assignments... And I use iProcrastinate for that.

Infact, didnt Windows have one of those.. and it now has indv. apps in Vista?
 
I would have prefered they go with the smooth white look(like in Tiger Mail) over all instead of the gray.

Exactly, dark grey is reserved for old Windows dialogs.

I think there was a Tiger beta that looked like what you are describing. It actually looked much better than what we finallly got.
 
Why are the majority of people commenting on this new look as if it is the finished thing with only a handful of people every now and again saying they expect to see a GUI overhaul when they announce the rest of the features.

Isn't it totally obvious to everyone in the entire world that they are going to do a massive overhaul of the GUI? Vista just came out with a fresh new look and Apple MUST respond. You cant run a business up against a massive market leader and not respond to the new features they introduce. Changing the subtleties of the interface is not going to be all that Apple do. They are going to introduce some mega new interface.

The fact that Apple is still holding out on several features of Leopard, and the fact that a completely new GUI would warrant a demonstration by Jobs himself gives us reason to believe that they would never show the new interface in these developer seeds.

As for what the theme is going to be, I think that is pretty obvious as well. AppleTV and the iPhone's interfaces tell you everything you need to know. Black is in at the moment, as Vista has shown, and Apple is going to wow everyone with the prettiest black and transparent interface yet seen. Every new Apple app of recent has introduced some element of black and transparent interface such as cover flow in iTunes and this IS going to be the basis of the new new theme.

Anyone who assumes that these developer seeds are exclusively showing off what the new interface will be like are frankly crazy.

Agreed. No matter what you say about Vista's GUI, we all know Black is in ... and black always looks better when it's see-through.
 
Amen. :rolleyes:

I know it isn't happening in Leopard but I wish Apple would get into the 21st century and get an integrated PIM. Individual apps for E-mail, calendar, contacts, and todos is so 1990's. All your organizational data in one app. How much simpler could you get?

On the contrary, if you were to do it something like Outlook, all you'd get is more button-pushing to get where you want to go.

On the Mac, you just flip from program to program, quickly and seamlessly. I love having everything seperate because it's easier to work with compared to when I used to use/tried to run away from Outlook (I hate that piece of work).
 
The gray shades are so dark that the contrast between the text and background are narrower. This arguably makes the text less legible. I'd say something more like this:

http://gui.interacto.net

...would be far easier for our eyes.
 
I'm glad that they've changed the Web clip icon in safari (I didn't like the black icon). I think the brushed metal was nice but now I think this sleeker gray/grey is amazing. Photo booth also looks great with video and everything.
MORE EFFECTS!! WOOO!:D
 
Quickview has got to be the most pointless thing. You can get the same effect in Tiger. Click on a file and do command-option-i to get an inspector. Now when you click on various files it will update and show a preview.
 
Amen. :rolleyes:

I know it isn't happening in Leopard but I wish Apple would get into the 21st century and get an integrated PIM. Individual apps for E-mail, calendar, contacts, and todos is so 1990's. All your organizational data in one app. How much simpler could you get?

Either this, or more tightly coupled.

Anyway, it's a terrible idea to put just the todo feature into Mail.app. It reminds me of what they did to iTunes. Why couldn't they build a real media player/center? Why can't they build a real Personal Information Manager? Mail will always be primarily an email program but with some weird features like todo lists, possibly with deadline notification, something that should go into iCal, if not into a separate program alltogether, or into Apple PIM. It seems to me that Apple severely lacks a strategy for their OS apps.
 
Quickview has got to be the most pointless thing. You can get the same effect in Tiger. Click on a file and do command-option-i to get an inspector. Now when you click on various files it will update and show a preview.

I think you've misunderstood. With QuickLook you see far more about the file.

For example if you've got multiple versions of a Keynote and can;t remember which one you want. you can QuickLook the keynote slide by slide to see whether it'd the one you want, which is far more than you can do in the inspector.

QuickLook is going system wide, not just in finder, one other notable use for it is in Time Machine where you can QuickLook documents to see whether you've found the right version.
 
vista

Vista Looks pretty sexy. Come on, Apple. Black, Black, Black. Problem is... will Leopard now be accused of not only being 4 months behind, but ripping-off Vista???

The 22 Immutable Laws of Marketing still apply to ya. Jack Reis and Al Trout, save us!!!:)
 

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Also, what the fxk is this: "No other applications can be open durin this installation."?

They had two directions to choose from:

- Build a decent (aka modern) OS that is capable of installing software without restart.
- Go back to System 7.

They obvously opted for the latter.
 
I think you've misunderstood. With QuickView you see far more about the file.

For example if you've got multiple versions of a Keynote and can;t remember which one you want. you can QuickView the keynote slide by slide to see whether it'd the one you want, which is far more than you can do in the inspector.

QuickView is going system wide, not just in finder, one other notable use for it is in Time Machine where you can QuickView documents to see whether you've found the right version.
QuickView is also less work, especially for those who seldom use keyboard shortcuts.

I can't help but notice the talk about a white horizontal scroll bar. I assume it's the one in the Automator shots where a sheet is open (that's the only non-blue one i can see in that gallery). The reason it's white is because the window it's in doesn't have focus (the sheet does). This is normal even in Tiger.
 
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