Gallery of Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard (9A410) Screenshots

[surferfromuk]

I think the fact that a lot of mac faithful, including myself, can clearly see that Vista has a sexy, appealing look should be enough to start ringing warning bells at Apple.

Yes, XP looked tired and dull when compared to OSX but that's changed. Somehow Vista has acquirred the one thing Apple always had over M$ - 'class'!.

Apple still have the classy beautiful H/W but OSX is very suddenly looking a touch 'last gen' regardless of what's under the hood. Time to up the ante and risk alienating the army of 'grey lovers' with some radical new ideas.

 

[Luc@]

I hope Apple is not going to use a black GUI:
white text on black background is really a stupid choice! Reading it is a lot more difficult!

One more thing: QuickView doesn't exist. The feature is called "Quick Look".

 

[Project]

I think the fact that a lot of mac faithful, including myself, can clearly see that Vista has a sexy, appealing look should be enough to start ringing warning bells at Apple.

Yes, XP looked tired and dull when compared to OSX but that's changed. Somehow Vista has acquirred the one thing Apple always had over M$ - 'class'!.

Apple still have the classy beautiful H/W but OSX is very suddenly looking a touch 'last gen' regardless of what's under the hood. Time to up the ante and risk alienating the army of 'grey lovers' with some radical new ideas.

I agree and disagree.

I agree that Vista looks nice. It has a new *theme*.

I disagree that OSX needs radical new ideas. OSX beats Vista from a UI standpoint fairly easily. There is a huge difference between a theme and how something works. OSX for instance, has a multitude of ways in which to manage your windows and workflow that blows Vista away IMO. Expose, Spaces, Hide, Hide Others etc. Preview/QuickLook is an extremely nice combination.

I think people who bring up Vista are only really talking about the theme - colours, transparency and fades. What is radical about this? Absolutely nothing. Its just prettier. Its like Pimp My Ride > Vista looks far better than XP but it works the same way. Im quite disappointed the Windows team didnt look harder at Windows management and other new ideas. The same metaphor still applies in Vista save for Flip 3D which is pretty weak.

I still think Apple need to refresh OSX to make it look more modern, but I would like them to do so without hurting productivity by maintaining that minimalist, sleek look. Things like doing away with the grey, resolution independence, more detailed icons and typography will do this.

 

[Project]

I hope Apple is not going to use a black GUI:
white text on black background is really a stupid choice! Reading it is a lot more difficult!
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Exactly... which is why I am happy to see Apple only use it on interfaces that have a minimal amount of text and just a few buttons. It really wouldnt work if the whole toolbar on every windows was black. Try Vista with Word 2007 set as the black theme and maximised. Its incredibly hard to use.

 

[Max Payne]

Forget the screenshots, we need the secrets.

 

[MacDonaldsd]

I like the new unified look. Looks nice and clean and isn't in your face.

These secrets better be good mind, not paying for a slightly tinkered UI

 

[thefunkymunky]

..Apple. I can already do this and it looks better:

I want something to wow me. Not something which I looks no better/not as good as my current set-up.

BTW - That's Shapeshifter + the '7' theme.

Hey, where did you find the '7' theme?

 

[72930]

How is having a browser with tabs any better then having multiple windows open?

There is less clutter as you often have many browser windows open, but barely have more than two organisation apps together

 

[rspress]

Microsoft?

I guess that Microsoft wished they had said that working on the Zune caused the delay in Vista being released since the iPhone excuse worked for Apple.

What a load of bunk! The problem is that neither OS X 10.5 nor the iPhone are released yet. If Apple does not have the resources to continue work on 10.5 while working on the iPhone then I would worry about the state of things at Apple.

What makes the most sense is that they are spending the time to unify the interface UI's so that the iPhone, AppleTV, OS X 10.5 and the new iPod are all the same. Now that would be worth waiting for. I hope I am not let down. After all Apple was mocking Microsoft for Vista being so late.....the last thing they need is no good reason for OS X being late and the iPhone is not a good reason.

 

[elppa]

ohhh... i hope all of Mac OS 10.5 will be dark transparencies... well, exactly like the "Picture 11" window in their screenshot... looks like its going that way... excited!

That's called the HUD — or “Heads-Up Display”.

As pointed out it is already in a few apps and is meant as a utility window.

I think the comment on multi-touch is very interesting indeed. They could be on to something there.

 

[stadidas]

Also, what the fxk is this: "No other applications can be open durin this installation."?

They had two directions to choose from:

- Build a decent (aka modern) OS that is capable of installing software without restart.
- Go back to System 7.

They obvously opted for the latter.

A lot of code is loaded into memory at boot time when it is needed. This code cannot be modified while the OS is running (obviously). So if part of this code is updated then of course a restart will be required before changes take effect.
Do you think parts of a system can be modified while it's still running?

 

[Rocket850]

So far this OS makes me "Yawn" Those secret features better be kicka$$

 

[rspress]

A lot of code is loaded into memory at boot time when it is needed. This code cannot be modified while the OS is running (obviously). So if part of this code is updated then of course a restart will be required before changes take effect.
Do you think parts of a system can be modified while it's still running?

Actually you can rewrite parts of the OS while it is running but this is never a good idea to do for obvious reasons.

Many installers like to shutdown other programs not because they have to but it makes it easier on users to understand. If you install a program that is available in other programs then those programs will have to be restarted in order to take advantage of the new install. The same is true for those that require a restart of the system. I have force quit the installer at the point it wants to restart the computer and continued with other installs or other work while not using what I had just installed.

I don't think many people here remember system 7 or way back to System 1. The fun of Multi-finder and switcher. Crash, crash, freeze, freeze. I love the fact that my Macbook will not run anything other than OS X. I have my eMac for running under classic mode for the two programs I use under OS 9 and I could really do without those programs in a heartbeat. If Vaporware of the decade "Typestyler" ever comes out for OS X then I would never dip into classic. Since Typestyler has been "coming real soon" to OS X for 5 to 7 years now I have really stopped caring about it.

 

[BenRoethig]

lol... in a roundabout way I think you are kind of right. People have been saying that OSX generally has been designed in mind with the hardware at the time. Aqua - plastic iMac, iBook etc. Brushed metal - PowerBook, Power Mac. Well now Apple has a mixture of black, white and metal hardware. The iPhone matches this as its black with a steel rim and a whitish back.

I think for Leopard, the basic windows wont be dramatically different but given a fresher look. But notice how everything else that you do with the Mac is being given the black look - its becoming common place in specific tasks - QuickLook, Time Machine, Spaces, iChat presentation gallery and video chat, iPhoto editing, Front Row, DVD Player, CoverFlow etc.

I think that is where you will see the smoked black stuff. To have it in the main windows as well wouldnt be a good idea in my opinion. I have seen some of the ShapeShifter themes where people have black everywhere and it looks horrible and reduces ease of use.

Im looking at the iPhone UI though and wondering if there will be any crossover with Leopard. Some of the stuff on the iPhone is beautiful

I have a feeling that when Leopard is shown in beta form, it is going to share a lot with the iPhone GUI.

 

[BenRoethig]

Vista Looks pretty sexy. Come on, Apple. Black, Black, Black. Problem is... will Leopard now be accused of not only being 4 months behind, but ripping-off Vista???

The 22 Immutable Laws of Marketing still apply to ya. Jack Reis and Al Trout, save us!!!

While their at it, would they mind stealing the start menu (and improve upon it)? As much as it pains me to say it, it's a much easier to access your apps and documents then Apple's open a window and search approach.

 

[Much Ado]

While their at it, would they mind stealing the start menu (and improve upon it)? As much as it pains me to say it, it's a much easier to access your apps and documents then Apple's open a window and search approach.

Sounds like you need to use Butler, my friend

Hate to say this, but i wouldn't be surprised if the 'Secret Features' never showed up in Leopard at all...

MA.

 

[Counter]

i miss the pinstripes, too.

From these screen shots, I miss design period.

The greys gotta go. Sort of acceptable when it's supposed to be metal being brushed and all. But removing the brushes = not metal anymore. It's just grey. And grey is the most boring colour. I also miss the pinstripes, but I can't see Apple going back to them. I think they have a GUI hiding away.

 

[72930]

While their at it, would they mind stealing the start menu (and improve upon it)? As much as it pains me to say it, it's a much easier to access your apps and documents then Apple's open a window and search approach.

Put the Application folder in the dock, and then you can just hold your mouse on it or secondary-click it for a full list of Applications

 

[CmdrLaForge]

Hi there,

here is a simple question: once the look is unified - shouldn't it be pretty easy to change it for all apps at once. I guess the answer is yes because Shapeshifter is doing that.

Or asked differently - are the GUI elements part of every app? I guess so.

If that is the case then I guess the GUI elements are part of XCode. Would that mean that a recompile of every app is necessary in order to change the look?

 

[72930]

Hi there,

here is a simple question: once the look is unified - shouldn't it be pretty easy to change it for all apps at once. I guess the answer is yes because Shapeshifter is doing that.

Or asked differently - are the GUI elements part of every app? I guess so.

If that is the case then I guess the GUI elements are part of XCode. Would that mean that a recompile of every app is necessary in order to change the look?

That is why some people that this is just a 'placeholder' GUI for one that will be showed off at WWDC or another event

 

[MarcelV]

Black and a thought....

Black with white lettering isn't going to happen. It is hard on the human eye. But I really think the iPhone, Apple's Sneek Peak website, appleTV, iTunes Coverflow full screen and even iPhoto '06 (full screen mode) have a lot in common.

The icons and dock are all completely redesigned and based on black (see the icon bar that shows 'Time Machine', 64-bit, 'Spaces' etc. Not the dock in the screen shots). Very similar concept to the iPhone dock. Full screen mode is black in any of those functions. And if windows are needed they 'float'. The popup windows will all black transparent, compare Quick Look with iPhoto '06.

I really think that that will be the new look of OS X.

 

[CmdrLaForge]

That is why some people that this is just a 'placeholder' GUI for one that will be showed off at WWDC or another event

Ok - thats what I thought.

I still believe that Steve will blow us away with the new Leopard - I guess the "real" reason for the delay are the secret features. I always thought that they must include them into the developer releases for testing before they finally ship. Well - I thought there will be a special event where they are shown. But WWDC makes much more sense.

 

[Avatar74]

I have a couple of observations...

1. I think that Apple's "secret" features may revolve around more 3D graphics and may in fact be a move toward an OS for a multitouch interface Mac... possibly a new line of portable communications/computing devices and possibly under the Mobile Mac banner.

2. If no one else mentioned it, the screenshots of the color gamut options for RGB, CIE and ITU-R component video specs can mean a couple things... If they're only in the Digital Color Meter it's more than likely for use with cross-integrated Apps (anything from Photoshop to Final Cut to ensure one uniform color matching process is used in your workflow), but ALSO, if these same options appear in the actual color profiles for your display, that would mean... Desktop to your HDTV. This may be direct cable as in DVI-to-HDMI (or HDMI-to-HDMI if Apple starts making machines with such an output), and/or wireless via AppleTV (hence the inclusion of ATSC component video Color Gamut).

 

[guzhogi]

hopefully the dark grey is a placeholder for something innovative. who cares what color apple makes the scroll bars. I'm hoping that apple doesn't just make a resolution indipendant version of aqua. we need less windows, less hierarchy, less clutter.

Dashboard, spotlight, the dock and expose are all about the frustrating reality of a window system and the need to get over it. The signs are everywhere, multitouch, Zuis, the 3d interfaces, projectors, audiopad. Windows are just a graphical interpretation of text based interfaces. we now have the technology to interact more directly with out information and calculations.

give the programmer the option to design his own theme. Simplicity is not skin deep.

How would you have it if it weren't windows? Just curious.

As for developers designing their own interfaces, that might be hard for the consumer and probably the developer, too. If each program had its own interface, the user would get really confused like "How do I close this?" and "How do I make this bigger/smaller?" Plus, do you know how much work it'll take if a developer had to design his/her own GUI for each app? There should be some consistency to the interface between apps. Like you'll always know what a button is, you'll always know what a scroll bar is. No guess work.

But it would be nice if people can make their own interface elements. Kind of like Shapeshifter. You can have different themes to the interface, but it would be consistent throughout the whole OS.

 

[rambosou]

what?

I feel like this is a front and there is no way this is the finished product. It doesn't have enough suave for Apple. In the past they always have real sleek looking stuff which is (kinda) ahead of its time (compared to other programs and OS's out). My guess is there just putting this on now and are really going to release a new look at the conference in June. I feel it looks really grainy, the brushed metal needs a face lift but in my opinion this isn't the right path to take.