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The vast amount of bugs is definitely a sign that the Mac OS X team is working on something complicated. Lots of bugs means the build was rushed out, in my opinion.

Leopard is going to be a huge milestone. Heck, they are given until October to complete it. Now that's a lot of time, 2.5 years. They've never spent this much time on any 10.x operating system before.

The new GUI is a placeholder in my opinion, it doesn't match anything and doesn't take advantage of any Core Animation. Something's coming. Hopefully we'll see in June.

As I understand, Apple wants to shame Vista and micro$oft, so this look is not impresive by any means. There must be a lot more behind the curtain.
 
I also remember Steve saying this feature will be incorporated into Safari. If you see an event that interests you, highlight it and add to your To Do List.
It would be a very useful feature and something I definitely need.

Damn thats pretty cool.

As its system wide I hope all Cocoa apps can access it.
 
Why would they have to rush out a developer release?

i agree. this isnt rushed, its just a rough rough draft. all the buttons being missized and everything is just the lack of polish. Like others i think its a placeholder for something much bigger. Even though this has taken so long that we should be calling it 10.6!
 
I also remember Steve saying this feature will be incorporated into Safari. If you see an event that interests you, highlight it and add to your To Do List.
It would be a very useful feature and something I definitely need.

Don't remember the Safari integration but would be amazing if they add this.
 
The way I look at it there is only one new UI Leopard could have, dark, reflective metal. Just as sexy as vista(well, like 10 time as sexy, actually)--but in a different way. Transparency is old hat--the windows should show a reflection of what is around them, very Apple, very sexy.
 
You have absolutely no taste or style. Vista looks like some teenager tried to trick out his PC by drawing his own lame theme. The window control buttons (int the upper right) look ridiculous. I quickly installed an OS X theme over it and can now breathe easier.

Agreed - any initial eye-candy wow factor there is in Vista rapidly descends into an annoying, confusing mess of too many colours & effects.

Steve Jobs said it the best "...problem with Microsoft is they just have no taste, they have absolutely no taste..."

Look at the BBC News Technology section and currently out of 50,000 voters, over 85% don't like Vista. The stats from the large eCommerce web site that I work on as my day job show that in 3 months Vista has gained less than 2% overall O/S share. The eye-candy isn't working...
 
What a load of bunk! The problem is that neither OS X 10.5 nor the iPhone are released yet. If Apple does not have the resources to continue work on 10.5 while working on the iPhone then I would worry about the state of things at Apple.

But the people who work on Leopard are probably some of the best in the world. It's not a matter of apple not having enough resources to hire more people, it's about the world not having enough people that talented. (arguing devil's advocate, of course)
 
I'm a big fan of brushed metal. And I'm sure I'm not the only one. I think the smooth grey is fine too, but it's a little boring.
 
I'm a big fan of brushed metal. And I'm sure I'm not the only one. I think the smooth grey is fine too, but it's a little boring.

You definitely aren't the only brushed metal liker. I like the brushed metal look and the non-unified look of the apps, it helps me recognize at a glance which app is which.

I'll be one of the first to download a brushed metal theme for whatever program will theme 10.5 first...

I wish the top left and right corners weren't so sharp, I like the more roundedness the current ones have. Reminds me of the corners of the laptops, they aren't sharp like that.
 
You definitely aren't the only brushed metal liker. I like the brushed metal look and the non-unified look of the apps, it helps me recognize at a glance which app is which.

I'll be one of the first to download a brushed metal theme for whatever program will theme 10.5 first...

I wish the top left and right corners weren't so sharp, I like the more roundedness the current ones have. Reminds me of the corners of the laptops, they aren't sharp like that.

Make that 3. I have tried some Shapeshifter themes that has the current iTunes look but I keep reverting back to Aqua itself.
 
New Interface

In regards to some people wondering if Leopard will have any interface changes, I highly doubt it will be anything drastic. Maybe a few touch-ups like dropping the brushed metal. I mainly think this because it was only in the major new OS release (OS X) that they did a drastic interface change. My bet, wait until OS XI for something dramatically different... unless Apple has something hidden under their sleeves.
 
With all the random, ad-hoc changes we have seen, that have come so slowly over the course of Leopard's development, I wonder if Apple really has a plan. You need an idea more than just: we have 10.4, time to make 10.5!

10.4 didn't have a wild number of additions. For the end user it was basically spotlight and dashboard. I think having a narrow focus helps development. It seems they are taking on some very broad ideas with Core Animation. Perhaps it will bare us some fruit. But if they have a clear plan (ie revolutionize GUI with animation, 3d, etc) they haven't articulated it to their developers or public in their preview.

Hopefully they are still working on things behind the scenes that aren't released in the developer builds. Maybe the recently unified interface is just a placeholder for whatever a new UI might be. I hope so! And I hope 10.5 is not another Rhapsody.

The way mid-size to large projects work is that there is a trunk code base. Devs work on new features in their own groups and none of that goes into the trunk until the code is ready to be tested or used by a broader base. So because of that, you can be assured that its wildly innaccurate to speculate about all this stuff for secret UIs and features.

The point is simple - if Leopard is not feature complete (which Apple has said its not) - then it means whatever those features are, are being developed in their own branch and will be merged later.
 
You definitely aren't the only brushed metal liker. I like the brushed metal look and the non-unified look of the apps, it helps me recognize at a glance which app is which.

I'll be one of the first to download a brushed metal theme for whatever program will theme 10.5 first...

I wish the top left and right corners weren't so sharp, I like the more roundedness the current ones have. Reminds me of the corners of the laptops, they aren't sharp like that.

I'll add my preference for brushed metal. It has developed into a very nice interface. It has been around for a while, so it wouldn't surprise me if it is replaced, but please Apple, don't just change things for the sake of it, and certainly don't dump aqua for an iTunes 7 look!

Personally I like the idea of all the windows looking the same, but I don't like the sharp cornered look. Too harsh for my liking, and not in keeping with Apple's hardware design.
 
IMO we'll most likely see a refreshed GUI, I'm not saying a drastic change on how to use computers but a sleek, clean and useful GUI that keeps up with the iPhone and most likely the upcoming 6th Gen iPod's.

Why? Because they have to.
Apple knows that for OSX to gain some serious market share it has to beat Windows Vista in every consumer front and really stand out in every way. That means GUI too.

Although Aqua has been seriously polished since the first release of OSX I still think that there are too many coincidences for us to not think that a serious interface revamp is coming. After all, where is core animationbeing used in the seeds that the dev's have been receiving? Where's the coherence towards the iPhone GUI? Why does Leopard looks TOO much like Tiger? Why so many secrets? Why delay the release? It almost seems they're trying to throw us the wrong way and then BOOM! :)

My guess is, at WWDC 07, we'll be eating a big can of "****" for swearing so much at Apple these past months :D At least I hope so...
 
Re: Gallery of Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard (9A410) Screenshots

I don't believe that the images we are currently seeing here are representative at all of the actual Leopard release... much too boring to be the real deal. No 'wow' factor. I also agree that Vista is much too busy looking, and that Apple will need to combine elegance and pizzazz.

I agree with some other comments here regarding the brushed metal being OK... I don't have a problem with it, although I prefer the lighter shade and look of Mail. Still, I think it's all a bit boring for an upcoming Leopard release, and I am hoping for something more reflective or transparent without being as confusing as Vista seems to be. I spent a week working with Vista and there was very little I liked about it... but it does sparkle a bit. But talk about confusing... there's too much stuff going on everywhere...

And while we are on the subject of GUI's, I sure hope Garageband gets an overhaul... I did my own brushed metal skin some time ago, because the wood grain just didn't do it for me at all! I'd like to see something slick, black, reflective, more like Cover Flow in iTunes.
 
The way I look at it there is only one new UI Leopard could have, dark, reflective metal. Just as sexy as vista(well, like 10 time as sexy, actually)--but in a different way. Transparency is old hat--the windows should show a reflection of what is around them, very Apple, very sexy.
God. Please stop with the "sexy". An application window or OS theme is not "sexy". What you mean to say is "visually appealing" or "cool" or "good".

For your education, here's a list of other things that are never sexy:
Cars
Lamps
Computer hardware
Computer software
Corporations
Industrial design
Cell phones
MP3 players
Packaging

That is all. Thank you.
 
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