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Gallery of Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard (9A410) Screenshots

Sounds like there maybe 2 versions after all

Some people here have been stating that the developers have been receiving a different version of OSX than Apple is working on.

Sounds to me like they were correct after all, they been ridiculed a lot by several people here, but lets think a little.

At WWDC Apple stated that they will release a semi-finished and feature complete version of OSX. There is no way that they can add all the new features in just 2 months. They must have been working on those features for a while now, yet the developers have not seen the features yet. Maybe the instability they seen is becuase those features were yank out out of the code base and replaced with something else they had no time to test out.

Well, what do you think?
 
One thing I don't like about the new look..... Darker grey of the broders and menu areas with black writting is going to make it hard for some of us with bad eyes to read. Like when someone uses black type on red, for readability it is better to use white type on red. You young guys may not have a problem, but I and others probably will. We need better contrast and larger type.
 
Consistency in the UI. At least much better than Tiger.
(yeah, I agree we can do it now with Shapeshifter / UNO)
 
psychofreak said:
Put the Application folder in the dock, and then you can just hold your mouse on it or secondary-click it for a full list of Applications :)
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I do that myself. I just wish there was a single unified space on the dock where you could access the system prefs, your home holder, and the Applications. It would make it a lot easier on the switchers.
 
rspress said:
I guess that Microsoft wished they had said that working on the Zune caused the delay in Vista being released since the iPhone excuse worked for Apple.

What a load of bunk! The problem is that neither OS X 10.5 nor the iPhone are released yet. If Apple does not have the resources to continue work on 10.5 while working on the iPhone then I would worry about the state of things at Apple.

What makes the most sense is that they are spending the time to unify the interface UI's so that the iPhone, AppleTV, OS X 10.5 and the new iPod are all the same. Now that would be worth waiting for. I hope I am not let down. After all Apple was mocking Microsoft for Vista being so late.....the last thing they need is no good reason for OS X being late and the iPhone is not a good reason.
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Exactly. I suppose the iPhone is a last reason why Leopard was delayed. They can move a thousands best developers into new project, and it's not going to help. When people get into the new project , it takes about one month just to get in. So if they moved people now, then only at the middle of the May they can start to contribute something t Iphone proj(at the best case). So if iPhone will have at May any unclosed issues in it's development - it can't be shipped to customers even at the end of June.(Otherwise the people will pay 500$ for beta version of the device - that will be really revolutionary new way of marketing ).
So the real reason of the delay i suppose it just a lot of bugs and unfinished issues.
Other reason could be inability of OSX to use properly newest Intel Quad core processors. So Apple decided to improve OS performance on Quad-core processors at Leopard and not to wait until 10.6.
Anyway - Apple , welcome to MS world!
 
stadidas said:
A lot of code is loaded into memory at boot time when it is needed. This code cannot be modified while the OS is running (obviously). So if part of this code is updated then of course a restart will be required before changes take effect.
Do you think parts of a system can be modified while it's still running?
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*snicker* Not familiar with unix systems, are we? Short of upgrading the kernel, the most you should have to do is send the process a SIGHUP or kill/restart it.
 
I'm just going to sit back and wait. I like my iMac, check these rumor sites everyday, and have found I always seem to be a tad dissapointed when the product comes out.

For example: If Apple had release :apple:TV the day they showed it off, it would have given less time for people to speculate. Speculation is good, free press, but when you have rumors floating around about Tivo-like features on :apple:TV, insane 3D multitouch interfaces in Leopard, it's never gonna be what EVERY person wanted.

I guess the moral of the story is: Steve, release it the day of like you used to. Kthxbye.
 
ddubbo said:
Exactly. I suppose the iPhone is a last reason why Leopard was delayed. They can move a thousands best developers into new project, and it's not going to help. When people get into the new project , it takes about one month just to get in. So if they moved people now, then only at the middle of the May they can start to contribute something t Iphone proj(at the best case). So if iPhone will have at May any unclosed issues in it's development - it can't be shipped to customers even at the end of June.(Otherwise the people will pay 500$ for beta version of the device - that will be really revolutionary new way of marketing ).
So the real reason of the delay i suppose it just a lot of bugs and unfinished issues.
Other reason could be inability of OSX to use properly newest Intel Quad core processors. So Apple decided to improve OS performance on Quad-core processors at Leopard and not to wait until 10.6.
Anyway - Apple , welcome to MS world!
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My impression was that Apple had already shifted developers to iPhone a while ago, and now had shifted them back, and that the iPhone was pretty complete now.
 
CoreWeb said:
My impression was that Apple had already shifted developers to iPhone a while ago, and now had shifted them back, and that the iPhone was pretty complete now.
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You're assuming that Apple are telling the truth about the delay...:rolleyes:

I think it's got far more to do with clever marketing whatever their scheme is...

*lightbulb* maybe they ment the new iPod not iPhone?...nah forget it...it must be a intricate marketing scheme.
 
AppleMan101 said:
You're assuming that Apple are telling the truth about the delay...:rolleyes:

I think it's got far more to do with clever marketing whatever their scheme is...

*lightbulb* maybe they ment the new iPod not iPhone?...nah forget it...it must be a intricate marketing scheme.
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I give it 50/50 actually on whether they were telling the truth. Perhaps I should have prefixed my comment, "Assuming that Apple did delay Leopard because of the iPhone..."

I also wanted to comment on (but forgot in my last post) the likeliness of the UI changing in the actual release of Leopard from what we see in this development release.

I am certain that it will change slightly - many buttons do not look right, text in the toolbars look HORRIBLE, etc. These will be fixed. Scrollbars may or may not change to the iTunes 7 look (I think they probably will, however).

Now, it is still possible that Apple will release an entirely new theme. What would be really neat is if users could make their own themes... now, I've read that one of the reasons Apple (and other companies like Microsoft with Windows) didn't want to do this is because service and support people might either have problems using computers which have odd themes, or it might make things harder to debug... but what if the custom theme could be turned off with a keyboard shortcut like, say, CMD-OPT-CTL-9?

(P.S., try CMD-OPT-CTL-8 on your Mac - you can see "Illuminous" today.)
 
antonwalker said:
for some reason i want my mac to look like Vista. Vista looks very sexy. Too bad everything else on it sux... Well maybe not DX10
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You have absolutely no taste or style. Vista looks like some teenager tried to trick out his PC by drawing his own lame theme. The window control buttons (int the upper right) look ridiculous. I quickly installed an OS X theme over it and can now breathe easier.
 
CoreWeb said:
(P.S., try CMD-OPT-CTL-8 on your Mac - you can see "Illuminous" today.)
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A while back i changed it to CMD-OPT-CTL-leftarrow because i like to use it that much.

Althought many people are crying out for an illuminous GUI, I'm not sure how horrible it would be on your eyes :( I'm pretty sure that the current design is a placeholder, possibly for something based around CoreAnimation. (like arn said)
 
actually...

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What would really be nice is if Leopard had a variety of super, in-your-face themes to choose from. PC does this. Don't think that I'm saying "Apple should chase Microsoft," i'm not. But....

Hey! Have a Classic theme, Intel Theme, Black with white text theme, standard theme, Brushed Metal theme, grey theme, aqua theme, etc.

Sure. You might hate white text on black after a few weeks, but that's the point. You can have fun changing things around. That's why I'm bored. I use Ableton Live. It allows you to retro the look to look like older versions of the software.

Just changing Wallpaper and screensavers.... Boring!!!:eek:
 
With all the random, ad-hoc changes we have seen, that have come so slowly over the course of Leopard's development, I wonder if Apple really has a plan. You need an idea more than just: we have 10.4, time to make 10.5!

10.4 didn't have a wild number of additions. For the end user it was basically spotlight and dashboard. I think having a narrow focus helps development. It seems they are taking on some very broad ideas with Core Animation. Perhaps it will bare us some fruit. But if they have a clear plan (ie revolutionize GUI with animation, 3d, etc) they haven't articulated it to their developers or public in their preview.

Hopefully they are still working on things behind the scenes that aren't released in the developer builds. Maybe the recently unified interface is just a placeholder for whatever a new UI might be. I hope so! And I hope 10.5 is not another Rhapsody.
 
On second thought...

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On second thought...

Apple needs to hire the best freakin' graphic artists to go way out there, while remaining streamline, classy.

Why not call Leopard OS X 11 and just hit with TV commercials that actually show a variety of applications, in rapid motion, not just cute little skits. Show content. Show the music industry, graphics industry, and cutting edge businesses at work.:apple:

Cue up the extreme sports music and show gaming applications; really WOW the world. :D

Cheese.... I know. But every Mac user is not like Jobs... a mellow, reasonable, calm, cool, colective, black turtle-necked wearing wine lover... or the skinny Mac guy in the commercials.

Pirates theme???? ahahahahrrrgggrrrhhggggggahahhrrrrrrr!!!:eek:
 
Is it just me or do other people agree that the previewed iPhone interface was "cooler" than the current OS X interface?
 
GanleyBurger said:
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On second thought...

Apple needs to hire the best freakin' graphic artists to go way out there, while remaining streamline, classy.

Why not call Leopard OS X 11 and just hit with TV commercials that actually show a variety of applications, in rapid motion, not just cute little skits. Show content. Show the music industry, graphics industry, and cutting edge businesses at work.:apple:

Cue up the extreme sports music and show gaming applications; really WOW the world. :D

Cheese.... I know. But every Mac user is not like Jobs... a mellow, reasonable, calm, cool, colective, black turtle-necked wearing wine lover... or the skinny Mac guy in the commercials.

Pirates theme???? ahahahahrrrgggrrrhhggggggahahhrrrrrrr!!!:eek:
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so the new operating system should be phonetically called:
OS Ten Eleven?
 
RedDragon870503 said:
Is it just me or do other people agree that the previewed iPhone interface was "cooler" than the current OS X interface?
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Some of the phone theme is way cool (black like with the picture).

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/01/dsc_0226.jpg


but some of it is very close to more of the same (lists).
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/01/dsc_0195.jpg

The look of the top picture (with the kid picture) is way cool, including the transparency.

That black theme will be great on these old eyes.
 
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