Fair enough.. But I never heard a mod say that - but if thats the general opinion then I dont mind posting more reports.
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[Games Forum] Moderation Request
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Fair enough.. But I never heard a mod say that - but if thats the general opinion then I dont mind posting more reports.
If they do, we move it to the Games forum!
We welcome reports of any and all rules violations and certainly prefer that to having people make posts in threads to complain that other posts are against the rules, because they may not come to our attention and because they take threads off-topic.
If somebody is frequently misjudging the rules or often reporting posts that did not in fact need to come to our attention, we'd let them know.
If they do, we move it to the Games forum!
LOL.... is the games section the MR prison ?
Really? I didn't know that. Were the others so quickly dismissed as well?
Battlefield triage! I love it! Can't/don't want to try to solve the problem? Cut if off!
In all seriousness, I don't see this as viable. Thread drift will happen and I don't think anyone want a draconian policy of what can and can not be spoken about. MacRumors is a global community that covers a wide range of topics, including gaming, and that's party why people come to visit. Sure, there are other places to discuss gaming but not with fellow Mac users.
What I find interesting is on one side there's apparently no problem, on the other side the argument seems to be one of "well then, let's kill it." Do nothing and "kill it" are two very extreme responses.
What I was originally asking for was something in the middle.
Something more...moderate.
he did say temp. remember that the political forums were shut down when things got to hot. perhaps closing the gaming forum until after the big shopping season would work. it would stop the flame wars and fighting.
me i don't think its necessary as i don't think there are all that much fighting. i just think people get worked up a bit too much over things and over react.
Community Discussion works pretty well since Marketplace threads were removed from it.
There aren't a whole lot of problems outside Games and Marketplace and there are enough responsible individuals outside of those forums that problems are reported regularly.
These are private forums and one person's censorship is another person's peace and quiet. The forums are well-moderated and mostly visited by grown ups of all ages. The other solution is to ban troublemakers in the Games forum at the next offence of any kind in that forum.
I might be willing to go back to being a moderator, just to clean up the Games forum.
It's been discussed to death. A few people in the Games forum need to change. Pending that, time to think might give them the push.
We're working our way down page 3 of this thread and I'm still waiting for someone to produce evidence of a problem.
On the first page of the Games forum I see one potential duplicate (So, Who's Camping for the Wii and Lining up for the Wii)-- that's it. I see a lot more repetition on the front page of the Buying Tips forum (and that's not a complaint -- I really don't care how many threads we have about black Friday).
If there's a problem, then please, someone show the extent of it. Otherwise this thread is an Everest of a molehill.
I made that point earlier
As for banning, well I think a yellow card system is a good idea, first or second offence - poster is given a warning and if not respected and they re-offend shortly after - a time out. If they are constantly repeat offending despite warnings and time-outs and show contempt then this may lead to a more permanent ban.
you wont hear me objecting - as this is thread was a plee for more moderators to do so would be hypocracy of the highest order
That'd be fine by me, but, fortunately, I have no authority to do that, or else I'd set it at, oh, 25000 posts.
Since you brought it up, I'll indulge you.
Wii camping threads (or how to get one), first page as of 5:18 MST.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/250324/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/251851/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/239965/
Page 2
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/251662/
PS3 camping threads (I expect these to pick up tomorrow, big time)
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/252265/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/251483/
DVD-Wii
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/251754/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/252005/
Ever-popular "Will WoW run on..." WoW benchmark threads
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/247657/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/250962/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/252250/
(moderated to https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/252247/)
On some of these I went two pages because traffic flows by pretty quick. Page two is, often, only a day old. So yes, some of these threads come up daily.
Please don't ask me to sift through individual threads for the ad hominem attacks, borderline insults, and the typical day-to-day bile that gets handed about. I just don't have that kind of time. Sure, some days are better than others. I try to report the threadcrappers, for example.
I made that point earlier
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you wont hear me objecting - as this is thread was a plee for more moderators to do so would be hypocracy of the highest order
You said "younger less mature" but I was trying to stress that the age doesn't matter--it's the maturity that's lacking. I'd say that those 18 and under are probably more mature but it's the 20-30 year old crowd that's the most enthusiastic. Yeah, that's it, enthusiastic.
As they say, be careful what you wish, you just might get it.
Okay, you've shown a bunch of duplicate threads (which do happen in all parts of the forums). Did anybody report these as duplicate threads and provide a link for the mods to see where a recent thread on the topic is? Did anybody post in the thread (the earlier the better) that the topic was already being discussed elsewhere? These are problems that are routinely handled elsewhere in the forums, so I can only imagine that the reason they aren't being handled in the Games forum is because nobody's taking the time to report them.
As they say, be careful what you wish, you just might get it.
oo will indiana jones be waiting for me tonight then
edit .. i'll settle for christopher meloni
I don't know. Did anyone? I'm not a moderator so I can't answer that, sadly.
Or is your question directed solely at me as my responsiblity to moderate the Games fora through reporting? Because I do report threads.
Again, not asking for a sherrif or a cop dedicated for the Games fora, just that it would be nice to have a moderator who was familiar with that fora, the people, the hot topics, etc.As they say, be careful what you wish, you just might get it.
My intent was not to ask for someone to swing by and mote justice and policy through the liberal use of the ban button.
It's a general question to those who have issues with the way things are moderated in the forums. So yes, in a way it is directed at you. But it's also directed at anyone else who saw these threads. And yes, it's also directed at the mods. It is not your responsibility alone, but it is in part if you want a pleasant forum experience.
I'm just trying to get at the crux of the matter, which is that the mods can't be everywhere all the time and they rely on others to point them to the problems. You say you do that, and that's great...we obviously need more people like you in the Games forum. The current staffing of mods is fine, as far as I can tell, but they need the help of the users to do their jobs. There are over 3,000,000 posts on this site now, with 100,000 of them in the Games forum...no one can keep up with it all by themselves.
Most posts reported in the Games section are actually reported by you WildCowboy. And no, no one reported those particular threads quoted above. And with the exception of the wii dvd playback threads none of those are truly duplicates, just on the same rough subject. So yes this is mountains out of mole hills in this mod's opinion.
Then that's a big source of the problem...nobody in there is really reporting much. I don't hang out in the Games forum, so almost everything I catch is because I see a dupe I recognize pop up in New Posts or Forum Spy. I'm not in there reporting on the content of the threads.
Yes, I remember that time well, right after Bush won the second time... and then I was locked out until I could manage 100 posts...
Seeing as this weekend is the release of the PS3/Wii I would expect things to die down within the next few weeks as people get their consoles and start playing them and forming real opinions based on playing rather than simply reading a spec sheet and talking about how their preferred console is best based on an arbitrary selection of specifications.
Unfortunately to do a shutdown of the games forums because of the console war would really only punish the Mac gamers trying to talk about and get help for the few Mac games that there are. If there were an easy way to put a moratorium on console threads for the next 3 weeks we'd probably manage to avoid what is probably going to be peak season for "my console pwns your console because..." threads.
It's been a long term problem. Consider that I haven't been a moderator since around February and it was a problem before I started about a year earlier.
Who knows anymore, this thread has turned into a bicker of its own. If they can't police themselves like the rest of the forums can why bother trying to change it if they don't want to help out. While I think some new Moderators would be a good thing to help out on the site as a whole, it is getting pointless to try and fix what might be to far gone in the gaming area.