not the same class...please dont compare the mbp now with an 6 pounds alienware or to a desktop
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Gaming on 16 inch MacBook pro
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Next time tell us how an ultra high end desktop out perform an 12" Macbook or an Dell Xps 13"
Learn what timeless piece means...maybe an Patek P or an mechanical watch can be "timeless" not some electronic battery laptop
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maybe, maybe not, but really is an apples to oranges comparison.
Oh so now timeless has specifications on the material used in production?
A Thinkpad appeals to people despite it's lack of change to the design of its chassis. Think about that.
They are known as powerhouses and people use them when they need as close to desktop power as they can get.
Isn't that what this entire community has been trying to scream and yell at Apple to do? Stop watering down the MBP and make it a damn workstation?
The absolute only reason why there is any argument to stay with a MBP is the software is proprietary. You all need FCP.
At the end of the day, MBP's are a very tamed laptop for a vey untamed price tag.
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It's incredible the new 16" gets the performance it does while also being able to take on a plane. I've been looking into getting an eGPU (Razer Core X) and a AMD 5700 XT so I can try some VR stuff, but that's a 225W chip alone. As a professional who uses a Mac for work and music production it's nice to know that I'll be able to play some more modern games.
I like Macs not because they're the most performance for the least amount of money but because the hardware and software combined provide a user experience that suits my preferences to a large degree.
I like Macs not because they're the most performance for the least amount of money but because the hardware and software combined provide a user experience that suits my preferences to a large degree.
Yes, and to have 3-4 hours of hard working it its very nice to have. I never got other laptop under full load to last more then 2 hours
For a while now we've been in a world (us Mac people) where "the done thing" is to have your Mac and then a 2nd screen. Whether that's MacBook + Nintendo Switch or MacBook + PS4. It's nice that for a lot of professionals buying these machines, you won't need to invest in a second device to play games.
I'm still unsure of whether I'll be happy enough with the performance playing games, if I'll go the eGPU route I mentioned for when I'm at home or if I'll just build a dedicated gaming PC. Seems to me that investing this much cash in a MacBook, the eGPU route is actually the most sensible.
And those laptops are all plastic pieces of junk with subpar 1080p displays. Have fun deleting all the bloatware and getting any battery out of those things.
i think he meant thinkpads, dell xps, hp etc Probably not surface or razer since they are magnesium/al
I'm a long-time Mac owner, starting with the Early 2006 iMac. I've owned several MacBook Pros, mostly 15" with dedicated graphics. After a spell of owning a combination of a 2015 13" MacBook Pro and a self-build gaming Desktop, I've realised that using PCs for the latest games isn't right for me. I'm planning on switching to the new generation of consoles when they start appearing in the next couple of years.
So I'm thinking of switching back to the 16" MacBook Pro for my next computer. I'm a developer by day, working in a mix of JavaScript and Go, and hoping to branch out into Rust. The 16" is more than I need, but nevertheless I can make use of the power. I also do a lot of conference talks, so I need access to Keynote.
But I'm interested in the 16" MacBook Pro because I would like to use it to play my gaming back catalog, rather than to play the latest generation of games. I'd be using it to play my all-time favourites World of Warcraft, Vanilla, Dark Souls Remastered, Fez, Portal, Half Life 2 among others on Windows. I also want to use it to emulate retro consoles, such as the SNES, Megadrive, N64 and Gamecube.
I'm interested to find out what the Bootcamp support is like for older games, whether they suffer any of the graphical glitches seen in other games. I'd also be interested in finding out if the 5300m base model is powerful enough to run games like Fez and Dark Souls Remastered in native resolution, at an acceptable framerate, in case they suffer from the same "render-in-the-corner" problem some other games do.
I'm sitting on the fence between a 16" MacBook Pro and a similar windows laptop. It's not the case of whether I could make the most of a MacBook Pro or not, it's more that I could get a cheaper Windows laptop in the short-term and I'd still be getting another Mac in the long term, so why not just get one machine instead of two.
So I'm thinking of switching back to the 16" MacBook Pro for my next computer. I'm a developer by day, working in a mix of JavaScript and Go, and hoping to branch out into Rust. The 16" is more than I need, but nevertheless I can make use of the power. I also do a lot of conference talks, so I need access to Keynote.
But I'm interested in the 16" MacBook Pro because I would like to use it to play my gaming back catalog, rather than to play the latest generation of games. I'd be using it to play my all-time favourites World of Warcraft, Vanilla, Dark Souls Remastered, Fez, Portal, Half Life 2 among others on Windows. I also want to use it to emulate retro consoles, such as the SNES, Megadrive, N64 and Gamecube.
I'm interested to find out what the Bootcamp support is like for older games, whether they suffer any of the graphical glitches seen in other games. I'd also be interested in finding out if the 5300m base model is powerful enough to run games like Fez and Dark Souls Remastered in native resolution, at an acceptable framerate, in case they suffer from the same "render-in-the-corner" problem some other games do.
I'm sitting on the fence between a 16" MacBook Pro and a similar windows laptop. It's not the case of whether I could make the most of a MacBook Pro or not, it's more that I could get a cheaper Windows laptop in the short-term and I'd still be getting another Mac in the long term, so why not just get one machine instead of two.
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thninkpads mid-range and high-end models are made form magnesium,
Dell XPS from carbon fiber, HP Envy (mid-range) and Spectre (high-end) are made from aluminium
can be a problem with 3K support in some old games, also why cheap PC laptop can be alternative for expensive MBP? Do you think expensive aren't worth the money?
A cheap gaming laptop isn’t an alternative to a 16” MacBook Pro.
A cheap gaming laptop AND a 13” MacBook Pro are an alternative to a 16” MacBook Pro.
5300M is more than enough for those games at 1080p mate.. I'm using the 16" base model for World of Warcraft and it's more than fine
Sorry, but i had an xps 13 and i scratch it by mistake...and that carbon fiber is just a layer...underneath its plastic.. to be all carbon fiber...would raise the cost of that thing a lot more, and we are talking here just for the palm rest, not the lid or the bottom. ANd yes, x1 carbon i think its magnesium...our mod @maflynn can confirm it or deny it. But it doesnt matter...here is an topic for gaming on 16"mbp
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im using the 16 inch with quake champions with the 5500 8gb model i9. It works good. I feel like the temps get a bit high at times though. not a fan of the slight speaker issue and the price. otherwise. im happy. may return to build a pc, havent fully decided.
Most of the setting on low but texture quality on ultra. resolution at 3072x1920 and resolution scale at 40%. seems to be best. thats how i have it in quake. fps above 60. also temps around 60-75 usually while waiting on game. while connecting its at around 70-88c but can spike randomly upto 90-96 very shortly.
while playing temps at 75-88 usually but can once again spike here and there. ive had it where the fans dont kick in on windows at high temps randomly. not stoked on that. but otherwise seems ok.
Most of the setting on low but texture quality on ultra. resolution at 3072x1920 and resolution scale at 40%. seems to be best. thats how i have it in quake. fps above 60. also temps around 60-75 usually while waiting on game. while connecting its at around 70-88c but can spike randomly upto 90-96 very shortly.
while playing temps at 75-88 usually but can once again spike here and there. ive had it where the fans dont kick in on windows at high temps randomly. not stoked on that. but otherwise seems ok.
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Temps during game start up.
Temps during gameplay
Right before it starts to cool down in the end.
10 minute round. About 15 minutes of fans for a round.
Temps definitely high in windows.
Anyone know any good fan control apps for windows to help regulate these temps?
Macos most of the time at max reaches 96. thats the highest. so it would be nice to get it under control in windows.
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As a former owner of Surface Book 2- yes it is, ever so slightly. The CPU, on the other hand, is much batter on the MBP. So in terms of gaming, I think the MBP 16'' will come out ahead.
16 inch running Forza Horizon 4 at native! resolution with high to ultra settings at around 45-50fps avg. Was like a third before on the 560. Fair enough.
Hey guys, I have a question - are you experiencing frequent stuttering in games? I played Battlefield 5 and Star Wars Fallen Order and both games play incredibly smooth for a laptop, 40-60 fps at the highest settings (with a 1080 resolution) but there is frequent stuttering where the game will pause for a second until it "loads". I wonder if it's got anything to do with the GPU memory (I have the 550 4 gb) or is this something to do with my SSD disk? Anyone else got similar issues and/or know how to reduce the stuttering?
You can’t control fans in Windows, this is blocked by Apple. But there was a trick - if you set fans to manual in MacOS and then reboot to Windows they will stay at the last speed. This used to work on my 2018 MBP, don’t know if it still works now.