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GarageBand, Mini iPods, Xserve... Tomorrow?
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i doubt that. i think it's a scaled down version of soundtrack for consumers and what else, garage bands!
i think as long as it has support for multiple tracks, it will be great. put it up for download immediately with a nice iApp interface like iMovie, put an import to iTunes option, and you're set!
one thing that probably won't happen because steve even has said publicly that they don't let everyone on.
GarageBand... I bet it's a consumer applications development program, allowing your average mac consumer to utilize applescript to create applications using a GUI.
...or not.
Seriously, it does sound like a way to import, mix, and export music. I don't know if it will allow you to ACQUIRE music (i.e. recording) except through the audio-in port. If this is the case, you can look for some new Griffin Technology releases soon.
...or not.
Seriously, it does sound like a way to import, mix, and export music. I don't know if it will allow you to ACQUIRE music (i.e. recording) except through the audio-in port. If this is the case, you can look for some new Griffin Technology releases soon.
I'd be willing to bet $100 that Garage Band is a means for small bands getting their music online and for sale in iTMS. I suspect it will be software that allows them to import tracks, clean them up a bit, convert them to AAC, add the necessary tags, upload them, and sell them.
I DON'T think it will actually be for RECORDING tracks. Apple will expect that you already have recorded tracks on CD or another digital format and Garage Band will just let you prep them for iTMS and put them online for sale.
I DON'T think it will actually be for RECORDING tracks. Apple will expect that you already have recorded tracks on CD or another digital format and Garage Band will just let you prep them for iTMS and put them online for sale.
MAc not in the PDA Busuness? Are you kidding me they started it with the Newton!
Newton still blows away the ipaqs and palms. Just needs the same updated technologies.
Are they in the Music business? Now they are? There were tons of mp3 players out there, but apple changed that with the IPOD!
Why is there pda functionality in the IPOD? Why did Jobs want to buy Palm? Why is INKWELL in the OS, Why is Ical and Address book being developed so feverishly, and whyis there ISYNC?
Apple know there is a need for these types of devices and they can reshape the market just like they did with the IPOD!
So come on now, saying apple is not in the PDA business holds no merit!
Newton still blows away the ipaqs and palms. Just needs the same updated technologies.
Are they in the Music business? Now they are? There were tons of mp3 players out there, but apple changed that with the IPOD!
Why is there pda functionality in the IPOD? Why did Jobs want to buy Palm? Why is INKWELL in the OS, Why is Ical and Address book being developed so feverishly, and whyis there ISYNC?
Apple know there is a need for these types of devices and they can reshape the market just like they did with the IPOD!
So come on now, saying apple is not in the PDA business holds no merit!
I just hope and expect that what we'll get is a program that fills the Logic space, but is less expensive.
I know tons of folks who want to make music on their Macs, and although Macs are the best, "average Joe" does need to shell out some serious cash to get a decent setup (mic, preamp, software, etc.). I've spent around $1000.00 (Sibelius, Reason, Live) on software, but still haven't settled on a recording app as Logic is too pricey (and I can use Live for most of my stuff as it is layered/MIDI).
I really think that audio is poised to become the new Photoshop, with simple and powerful ways for most users to make or manipulate music. If you ever visited the Bjork remix site (which I think has been taken down), you might have glimpsed a future where fans make their own remixes of popular songs and share them. Different but similar in spirit to a garage band. Maybe...
Who knows? We all willtomorrow!!!
I know tons of folks who want to make music on their Macs, and although Macs are the best, "average Joe" does need to shell out some serious cash to get a decent setup (mic, preamp, software, etc.). I've spent around $1000.00 (Sibelius, Reason, Live) on software, but still haven't settled on a recording app as Logic is too pricey (and I can use Live for most of my stuff as it is layered/MIDI).
I really think that audio is poised to become the new Photoshop, with simple and powerful ways for most users to make or manipulate music. If you ever visited the Bjork remix site (which I think has been taken down), you might have glimpsed a future where fans make their own remixes of popular songs and share them. Different but similar in spirit to a garage band. Maybe...
Who knows? We all willtomorrow!!!
Will it be an iApp, or, more likely I think, will it be to Soundtrack what Final Cut Express is to Final Cut Pro (i.e. be a pretty robust application but cost around $299)?
Sorry, Steve will NEVER allow it. Even though I would love for Apple to make a PDA (because it would blow everyone else out of the water), it's just not going to happen. Get a Newton and be done with it.
The Ipod would make a great pda although I am not sure how usefull pda's are. If your Ipod and pda are the same thing that is also one less thing to have to carry. I dont see a use for a pda especially for me being a student I have no need for having an address book, and as a planer I dont really need that. I like how small they are but the laptop is so much more productive. If you need these you can do it on a laptop. Plus you can do whatever else you need especially typing. It seems much harder to type on the pda. What could or should be worked on is the form factor of the laptop to make it smaller, although foldable does not seem like an option becuase then you have those breaks but the keyboard and much bigger screen make the laptop much easier to use
AppleWorks is a total piece of junk, IMHO - it's just trying to imitate Office, and does it badly... either they should drop it all together, or they should make it bring something completely new to the table altogether...
I used AW with my iBook for a month when i first bought it, but got so frustrated I just bought Office!!
Hob
You took the words from my mouth. I wonder what the possibility of a finalcut express level audio app is. If it came with some sort of 2-channel USB, or better firewire, interface that would be great.
There is sort of a void when it comes to entry level, digital recording equipment and software. There are many bands with little money to spend who want an easy, affordable way to record on the computer.
I think this would be a great, untapped market for apple. The solutions that currently exist are too expensive, or get shipped as hardware interfaces with poor software.
I would normaly consider Apple taking this step as unlikely, but here's hoping.
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Timetable Keynote -> Purchase
In the past, how long after the Keynote would a new product take to appear on the website? Or for that matter, in the stores?
Just wondering how long I have to wait to order (or go my local Applestore and buy) my 2GB iPod.
In the past, how long after the Keynote would a new product take to appear on the website? Or for that matter, in the stores?
Just wondering how long I have to wait to order (or go my local Applestore and buy) my 2GB iPod.
the benefit of a pda is that it is small enough to always have it on your person. And any decent one is much more than an address book or planner. Mine has all my necessary filemaker databases, I use it for keeping notes, and I can write in graffiti just about as fast as I can print.
I really do need a new state of the art small data display & collection device that is has pen-driven input, ne that was fully integrated with Apple products would be a great plus. Palm and Handspring entries have become more difficult to use with each generation.
But Steve doesn't like them so we will never see them.
I do agree with the poster that they contacts and calendar in the ipod are virtually worthless and just a power drain. Without input capability there's no point.
rock on... i wonder how long i am going to have to wait for my new mini ipod... its going to be perrrrrrfect for jogging. 
garage band will be fun too... steve-o rocks!
garage band will be fun too... steve-o rocks!
garrage band will probally be some sorta downlaodable app that will edit and encode in AAC and will allow you to upload to itunes and possible set up an account/band page of some sorts...
maybe ?
or some limited mulitrack with looping capabilites ? with easy ipod intergration
"listen to YOUR music on YOUR ipod ! "
maybe ?
or some limited mulitrack with looping capabilites ? with easy ipod intergration
"listen to YOUR music on YOUR ipod ! "
The thought of Apple making garage band a way for you to sell or upload songs through the ITMS is a hard one to grasp - would you set your own prices, would apple be paying you. Fraud? What about ripping name brand music and then uploading it as your own. Selling it cheaper.
UNfortunately I'm sure this is an audio iAPp - an iLogic if you will
Personally I like the iApps but I hate how Apple is begining to homoginze the creative software market. Essentially they are finding niche markets and undercutting the innovators so they can sell more machines. As cool as Apple is and their apps are we will see forced standards and fewer innovators willing to compete with Apples loss leaders. What if Apple goes after Reason next. That would suck, sure it needs an UI update but that program is so innovative and efficient I would hate to have it dumbed down for the masses.
I talked to Dr lengling about the next version of Logic and he confirmed to me their will be a major overhaul to the UI. Now I'm not a fan of Logic or its UI but I think the many people who are fans of Logic will be dissapointed at this blanding of an out piece of German engineering.
P@ul
UNfortunately I'm sure this is an audio iAPp - an iLogic if you will
Personally I like the iApps but I hate how Apple is begining to homoginze the creative software market. Essentially they are finding niche markets and undercutting the innovators so they can sell more machines. As cool as Apple is and their apps are we will see forced standards and fewer innovators willing to compete with Apples loss leaders. What if Apple goes after Reason next. That would suck, sure it needs an UI update but that program is so innovative and efficient I would hate to have it dumbed down for the masses.
I talked to Dr lengling about the next version of Logic and he confirmed to me their will be a major overhaul to the UI. Now I'm not a fan of Logic or its UI but I think the many people who are fans of Logic will be dissapointed at this blanding of an out piece of German engineering.
P@ul
It is a dumbing down, but ther ewill ALWAYS be a market for PRO level stuff or semi pro level stuff..
garrage band will be for people that use idvd and not final cut
garrage band will be for people that use idvd and not final cut
My guess: GB not a mass-market product
As long as we're all guessing, here's my thoughts . . .
An app for music creation/manipulation (i.e., Logic, SoundTrack, Reason, etc.) is NOT a consumer (mass-market) product. Some of you believe the average joe writes their own music and/or wants to record their own music, and that just isn't the case. I'm a writing/recording musician myself (Platinum 6 rocks!), and the average joe has no more clue about music production than they do nuclear physics. Yes, there is probably a market for another cheap (<$100) audio app, but it's not nearly large enough for Apple to bother with. Keep in mind that Logic has multiple price points, all the way down to $229.
Others have speculated about GB being a tool for bands to submit their music to iTunes. It just might be, but again, it doesn't seem like a mass-market product that would make a big splash. And it wasn't that long ago, at the rollout of the Windows ITMS, that SJ trumpeted the fact that ITMS contains only "quality" tracks, as opposed to other services that allow any garage band to upload tracks for a fee. Would seem a bit strange for him to change course so soon.
So I'm scratching my head over what this new product will be . . .
As long as we're all guessing, here's my thoughts . . .
An app for music creation/manipulation (i.e., Logic, SoundTrack, Reason, etc.) is NOT a consumer (mass-market) product. Some of you believe the average joe writes their own music and/or wants to record their own music, and that just isn't the case. I'm a writing/recording musician myself (Platinum 6 rocks!), and the average joe has no more clue about music production than they do nuclear physics. Yes, there is probably a market for another cheap (<$100) audio app, but it's not nearly large enough for Apple to bother with. Keep in mind that Logic has multiple price points, all the way down to $229.
Others have speculated about GB being a tool for bands to submit their music to iTunes. It just might be, but again, it doesn't seem like a mass-market product that would make a big splash. And it wasn't that long ago, at the rollout of the Windows ITMS, that SJ trumpeted the fact that ITMS contains only "quality" tracks, as opposed to other services that allow any garage band to upload tracks for a fee. Would seem a bit strange for him to change course so soon.
So I'm scratching my head over what this new product will be . . .
More hardware?
Lots of good speculation here.
I agree with the sentiment that for GarageBand to be a consumer recording app Apple has to provide or suggest hardware to allow such recording.
Something that would work with iMacs even. So it would probably be based on Firewire.
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=13430
That article only mentions audio out but there isn't a good reason to design an audio controller that can't deal with audio in.
Lots of good speculation here.
I agree with the sentiment that for GarageBand to be a consumer recording app Apple has to provide or suggest hardware to allow such recording.
Something that would work with iMacs even. So it would probably be based on Firewire.
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=13430
That article only mentions audio out but there isn't a good reason to design an audio controller that can't deal with audio in.
From a marketing view it would be more lucrative for Apple to aim at the music professional and offer a tightly integrated environment. Some sort of competition for ProTools, so to speak.
Small user base, but higher margins.
As others indicated, only a nice recording app won't do. A good music recording involves so much more than just an app. You need a lot of tools (mics/ preamps/ mixing desk), personnel and experience to make a good recording. The entrance level is so much steeper than for consumer photo- or video-editing.
Last but not least, for low end applications there are already so much products, that make more sense to me:
http://www.fostex.co.jp/int/pages/products/dmer/mr8.htm
or
http://www.rolandus.com/products/category.asp?CatID=12
Small user base, but higher margins.
As others indicated, only a nice recording app won't do. A good music recording involves so much more than just an app. You need a lot of tools (mics/ preamps/ mixing desk), personnel and experience to make a good recording. The entrance level is so much steeper than for consumer photo- or video-editing.
Last but not least, for low end applications there are already so much products, that make more sense to me:
http://www.fostex.co.jp/int/pages/products/dmer/mr8.htm
or
http://www.rolandus.com/products/category.asp?CatID=12