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GarageBand, Mini iPods, Xserve... Tomorrow?

Originally posted by sgrcts
just to reply- you can get an mbox with pro tools for less then 450 bucks. Thats hardly expensive or poor software.
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well, seeing as macworld is a consumer expo, i think it will indeed be consumer. people aren't all that bad at making their own music. maybe having loop capabilities can be in there, but no loops supplied.
450 dollars is a lot for people who are not rich and can't afford it but make good music. some high school bands might be good, but they can't spend 450 dollars on a piece of software.
 
Originally posted by G4scott
OK, think about the name. Garage Band. Now, do you think Apple will really come up with a solution for small bands to record their music with this consumer application? Apple would have to offer an affordable way to hook up good microphones to your Mac, which wouldn't exactly be something I can see Apple doing. And you know that Apple's not going to let you use the built in microphone on you Mac, because they suck. Unless, Apple comes out with an iSight type microphone at an affordable price, but I doubt that they'll do that. Hopefully it will have some useful audio editing features, though. If it's not going to be a recording app, then it would probably be some sort of mixing/editing app. I doubt they'll add notation, but you never know. Of course, if they do make it a recording app, with an iSight like microphone, I would hope they add some editing and mixing features, because I know my band directors could really use something like that...
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Apple didn't need to come out with they're own dv recorder when iMovie came around. I think it would be perfectly logical for them to make an application that's parallel to imovie, but that deals with audio instead. I've made lots of recordings through the little hole in the top of my imac, and i'm perfectly happy with the outcome, the computer noise ain't so bad. If they come out with a cheap way to do some multitrack recording, i'll go out and get a decent mic (a lot cheaper than a dv recorder) and start burning my own cds. then its off to the subway to sell them for 5$ a pop, yeah!

i'll just sit and grin, the money will roll right in
-Kurt Cobain
 
Originally posted by sgrcts
just to reply- you can get an mbox with pro tools for less then 450 bucks. Thats hardly expensive or poor software.
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True enough.
My Bad :)

none the less, while protools LE is great, most of the guys I record stuff for with my computer - are afraid of computers. ProTools isn't the most intuitive program, unless you already know somthing about recording.

Apple can't reinvent the wheel here, but it would be nice to see a really inviting recording app for the singer/songwriter, not the recording engineer.

-Jake
 
Garage band... I hope it is some kind of CD Mastering software: Make sure your tracks are all the same volume, compression... feature to add bonus media... red book CD'S. :)

As far as the PDF topic goes, would that cut into laptop sales? I don't think Apple would want to do that..
 
Originally posted by bennetsaysargh
well, seeing as macworld is a consumer expo, i think it will indeed be consumer.
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Right, that makes sense. MacWorld is a consumer expo, so they'll only introduce consumer products -- like, you know, THE XSERVE.

Hello.
 
Originally posted by j33pd0g
Garage band... I hope it is some kind of CD Mastering software: Make sure your tracks are all the same volume, compression... feature to add bonus media... red book CD'S. :)

As far as the PDF topic goes, would that cut into laptop sales? I don't think Apple would want to do that..
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Why would Apple aid bands in making CDs when Apple is in the business of competing with CDs?
 
An Mbox is about as easy as you can get and its a Digidesign product (Avid)

Apple has been pretty nice in the war between them and Avid but if Apple could sell you an Imac and an $200 interface with a $50 iApp insted of a MBox they wouldn't say sorry to anyone.

I'm sorry to see Digidesign at such a crossroads. Their card based processing is quickly becomming obsolete with the increased speeds of both Macs and PCs. But it is a standard - try to find a professional studio without Pro Tools - you really can't.

The Pro Tools LE line (Mbox 002) is wierd because it not only serves its immediate purpose but its like a gateway product because you get hooked on Pro Tools and then end up buying the $20,000+ HD/TDM systems in the future.

To Apple that $20,000+ translates into G5s, XServes, Software and ??? whatever Apple branded audio interfaces that will arrive at either NAMM or Macworld.
 
Re: I can tell everyone what GarageBand WILL NOT be...

Originally posted by RBMaraman
GarageBand will not be a program for people to upload music to iTMS. A few months ago, MacRumors (quoting from Billboard) posted about Apple's 'iTunes Producer' program that allows artists, producers, and labels to encode and upload music to iTMS.

https://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/10/20031023000428.shtml

So, GarageBand must be the new consumer audio 'iApp'.
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Oh yeah. And rumors sites have NEVER got their rumored product names mixed up. Noooo way.
 
I agree!

Originally posted by gmapes
MAc not in the PDA Busuness? Are you kidding me they started it with the Newton!

Newton still blows away the ipaqs and palms. Just needs the same updated technologies.

Are they in the Music business? Now they are? There were tons of mp3 players out there, but apple changed that with the IPOD!

Why is there pda functionality in the IPOD? Why did Jobs want to buy Palm? Why is INKWELL in the OS, Why is Ical and Address book being developed so feverishly, and whyis there ISYNC?

Apple know there is a need for these types of devices and they can reshape the market just like they did with the IPOD!

So come on now, saying apple is not in the PDA business holds no merit!
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I think they are all over it. Just not in the hardware yet.
How about these consumer DVRs with DVD burners. Everyone is making these to replace VCRs! Why doesn't Apple get into this too?
 
BTW all I remember about my Garage Band when I was a kid was stealing beers from the outside fridge, Stairway to Heaven and the cops coming because the old lady across the street called. We played parties and I thought I was a god.

Seriously who comes up with these names?
 
mbox and Protools 6.1 LE

Originally posted by youngjake
True enough.
My Bad :)

none the less, while protools LE is great, most of the guys I record stuff for with my computer - are afraid of computers. ProTools isn't the most intuitive program, unless you already know somthing about recording.

Apple can't reinvent the wheel here, but it would be nice to see a really inviting recording app for the singer/songwriter, not the recording engineer.

-Jake
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I agree. I have an Mbox and Protools LE for X which LOOKS really cool and 95% of the stuff I'm still not sure what it does. It's overkill if it's just me and my guitar miked up and sure, I can find myself around to the start stop record but so much other stuff is like ARG! If this was a simple tracks recorder for the Mac I'd be so happy I'd pee my pants.
 
mini iPod

2 GB, that's about 400-500 songs AAC 128 Kbps or 40-50 full-length albums. That's a lot to have with you for a day or a month. Using iTunes to manage a dynamic, rotating playlist from your greater collection; and a static list for must-have faves. $150. If true, that would go a long way toward making the iPod a truly affordable consumer portable music device. Plenty of people coughed up that much for a good portable CD player. I mean it's great that I can carry my entire music collection around on my 30GB iPod with space left over for adding new purchases, but it's a *completely* superfluous luxury. New buyers, especially students and anyone on a budget -- including me: had their been a $150 iPod when I bought mine instead of the low-end at $300, I would have easily bought the 2 GB mini iPod -- will, I think, be pleased.

Now I wonder, again if all the mini iPod hoopla is true, if Apple will use the dock connector, which adds size and high-end features, or just go with USB 2.0 or FireWire as the connection interface.

Either way, I guess I come up a winner. I already have my 30GB iPod. And were it to tank on me after the warranty expires, I'd have a viable, inexpensive alternative -- saying mini iPod comes in at $150 -- to paying the $250 to repair the 30 GB.
 
a few...

...posts ago someone mentioned Apple and Sun getting together to develop and polish Star Office. But they mentioned that MS Office development would be nixed.

Now here is my stream of (un)consciousness... Now, what if Apple and Sun do release Star Office that competes feature to feature with Office, but "dumps" it as freeware. Yes Freeware. Full office compatibility, or better yet, no compatibility with office. Who cares when you can swing the mindshare over to an app that is free and does everything that office does (without the feature bloat), except having a bloated price tag. talk about serious damage to Microsoft. That is why microsoft is expanding to other markets because there will be a time (possibly now) when people (and enterprises) would just say, screw it, I am tired of having to pay the licenses over and over. This i believe would drive adoption rates for Macs. Since it works on PCs and Macs et al. there is no worry of compatibility. Of course, if it is that good, then Linux adoption rates as a desktop would skyrocket. So then again maybe no. Unless it is not ported to run on linux. yada yada yada...
 
Re: I agree!

Originally posted by someone
MAc not in the PDA Busuness? Are you kidding me they started it with the Newton!

Newton still blows away the ipaqs and palms. Just needs the same updated technologies.

Are they in the Music business? Now they are? There were tons of mp3 players out there, but apple changed that with the IPOD!

Why is there pda functionality in the IPOD? Why did Jobs want to buy Palm? Why is INKWELL in the OS, Why is Ical and Address book being developed so feverishly, and whyis there ISYNC?

Apple know there is a need for these types of devices and they can reshape the market just like they did with the IPOD!

So come on now, saying apple is not in the PDA business holds no merit!?
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You're funny.

Apple "started the PDA business" with the Netwon. Big freakin' deal. They haven't sold one since then, so how on earth can you say they're in the PDA business.

They've added PDA features to the iPod, but it's still not even close to a PDA. Hell, the iPod might be the most feature-free PDA of all time! YOU CAN'T ENTER ANY DATA WITH IT.

Apple is not in the PDA business, whether they GET into it remains to be seen, but digging up a product like the newton to justify your point is like saying Apple is in the game console business because of the Pippin!
 
Originally posted by 200paul

The Pro Tools LE line (Mbox 002) is wierd because it not only serves its immediate purpose but its like a gateway product because you get hooked on Pro Tools and then end up buying the $20,000+ HD/TDM systems in the future.

To Apple that $20,000+ translates into G5s, XServes, Software and ??? whatever Apple branded audio interfaces that will arrive at either NAMM or Macworld.
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another thing, that $20,000 lets you get high-end decks and things like the AJA io (if you do video work too), professional monitors and big fast RAIDs.
 
Re: Re: I can tell everyone what GarageBand WILL NOT be...

Originally posted by jcroft
Oh yeah. And rumors sites have NEVER got their rumored product names mixed up. Noooo way.
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jcroft,

It's obvious that you didn't fully read my post. I stated that MacRumors quoted from Billboard. Billboard did CONFIRM that Apple started a program called 'iTunes Producer' which allows artists, producers, and record labels to encode music and submit it to Apple for upload into iTMS.

Perhaps I should have stated my previous post differently. In hindsight, it did appear that I was just quoting a rumor, but this rumor was later confirmed.
 
Originally posted by gmapes
Using the IPOD as a pda is a complete joke. I can see it now walking into a meeting and pulling out the IPOD to scroll 2000 names to find a contact! come on my boss would think i was really messing around!
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The iPod is NOT A PDA. It is a music player. If you need a PDA, I'd suggest buying something from PalmOne or Sony. Apple will come out with whatever products it thinks will improve its bottom line, and at the moment, the PDA market is still very weak, so there's no incentive for Apple to re-enter it.
 
hey, what about powerbook updates? G5 updates? iMac updates? how much would the new mini-iPod cost???
 
Originally posted by autrefois
I'm surprised Apple Computer has done as much as it has, considering the lawsuit by Apple Corps.
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Hilariously, on the website http://www.garageband.com/ , which is going to have some trouble I think if Apple has successfully trademarked software called "GarageBand", they currently have a blurb from George Martin.
 
Garage Band is nothing more than an extension of .Mac, allowing .Mac users to upload their own tunes to their own .Mac space and letting it be searchable from the iTunes store...

Ahem.
 
Re: Garage Band -- Not Soundtrack

Originally posted by metajunkie
It would hardly make sense to to make Garage Band a "loop" program, especially since they sell soundtrack independent of FCP.

What apple is missing from the iApps is a way to record your own music.

Think about it: this application is for "Garage Bands" i.e. people who don't have tons of cash but want to do some good recording.

Hopefully, it will sport some kind of integration with soundtrack - i've been itching to get own loops in there.
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You can put your own loops in. Soundtrack comes with the Soundtrack Loop Utility.
 
Originally posted by jMc
Garage Band is nothing more than an extension of .Mac, allowing .Mac users to upload their own tunes to their own .Mac space and letting it be searchable from the iTunes store...

Ahem.
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You know what I hope you are right

P@ul
 
Originally posted by jMc
Garage Band is nothing more than an extension of .Mac, allowing .Mac users to upload their own tunes to their own .Mac space and letting it be searchable from the iTunes store...

Ahem.
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Now that's the most interesting idea I've read all day.
 
Originally posted by G4scott
OK, think about the name. Garage Band. Now, do you think Apple will really come up with a solution for small bands to record their music with this consumer application? Apple would have to offer an affordable way to hook up good microphones to your Mac, which wouldn't exactly be something I can see Apple doing. And you know that Apple's not going to let you use the built in microphone on you Mac, because they suck. Unless, Apple comes out with an iSight type microphone at an affordable price, but I doubt that they'll do that. Hopefully it will have some useful audio editing features, though. If it's not going to be a recording app, then it would probably be some sort of mixing/editing app. I doubt they'll add notation, but you never know. Of course, if they do make it a recording app, with an iSight like microphone, I would hope they add some editing and mixing features, because I know my band directors could really use something like that...
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I'm sorry a band without microphones isn't much of a band now is it? Even the lowliest, cheapest bands have mics. I wouldn't exactly want a omputer company selling me audio equipment anyway, that's just my two cents.
 
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