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Actually, Apple claimed SECOND place.

With some notable exceptions, most of Nokia's garbageware doesn't count.

LOL. Very predictable comment from you!

However, reality is reality, and Nokia's business is to sell as many phones as possible, and they do this very well - hence they are #1.

More people *choose* to buy Nokia's products than Apple. Simple as that.
 
maybe your math is different from mine, but almost doing 3x the sales of iphone doesn't make it a joke and from what i see, apple is in third. got to love the spin though

Actually, Apple claimed SECOND place.

With some notable exceptions, most of Nokia's garbageware doesn't count.
 
Spoiler alert: It won't change anything.
It will change things. It makes Apple even more attractive to the mainstream marketplace, especially with its upcoming iPad. It's an irony, but its true. Good gardening makes things grow. Telling the plants to de-weed themselves with community voting isn't really a recipe for success. The sexually suggestive apps were popping up really high due to adolescent behavior. I remember being surprised this was happening when browsing the app store. In the big picture, it didn't look good at all. Good will need to look at the same issues, as they handle this type of thing on their search engine (ie "safe search").

~ CB
 
It's funny that everyone talks that iphone doubled it sales, but no one put attention that Android multiplied itself ten times over the same period

True...but it's a lot harder for Apple to sell 2million units and then 20million...while Android sells 100,000 then 1million. Although the percentage increase is identical, there is a limit to the # of humans out there buying phones. I agree with you, but the reality is that any cool device that has been building momentum before launch (Android) is going to sell lot hotcakes at first. I'm sure the iPad will be similar where it sells x units in Q2, then 2-3x in Q3 (so long as there are not major problems with the device)...but it's the longer haul on all products that really counts if you intend on owning a large percentage of the market.

My opinion is that Blackberry will hold #2 for a few more quarters...unless Apple really aims the iPhone at business users (or opens it up to multiple carriers like the BB) and thus leapfrogs BB. But I think BB isn't sitting around...I bet they will release some killer new BB edition this year that mimicks some of the behavior of the iPhone and Android (larger screens or touch). The BB clearly aim at the business market (MS Exchange integration, Calendaring, MS Office stuff and that's really it) while the iPhone clearly aims at consumers (surfing net, games, music player, video recorder)...so it's not a perfect comparison.

In mid 2011 I think it's going to be BB, iPhone, and Android all in a dead heat at like ~25% marketshare each. I can't see the MS platform ever getting above #4.

-Eric
 
What's interesting to me is that there appear to be far fewer phones sold overall in 2009. This bodes well for the popularity of the platform in general and the ipad specifically.
 
Wow, I'm blown away. If this product is a big success, I'll have to eat crow. But I wonder how many of these people really understand that the iPad is not a laptop replacement, but an accessory that still requires another computer.

I was wondering the same thing as I see threads with people saying they are getting an iPad INSTEAD of a macbook. The iPad is a companion device and is not meant to be someones primary computer. It looks like a nice way to consume content, but I couldn't imagine sitting in front of a screen that small and trying to write a complete document (all the while typing and touch the screen, etc...)

I'm still missing what the iPad is going to bring to the people who already have an iPhone and a MB/MBP (other than the I'm cool, I have an iPad crowd).
 
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Friscohoya said:
What's interesting to me is that there appear to be far fewer phones sold overall in 2009. This bodes well for the popularity of the platform in general and the ipad specifically.

That may be related to 18 month contracts which seem to be becoming a trend nowdays. :(

Good figures all round IMO.
 
It's funny that everyone talks that iphone doubled it sales, but no one put attention that Android multiplied itself ten times over the same period

Android will overtake and wipe the iPhone....................:D

I have already ditched mine in favor of the Droid, multi-tasking, free turn by turn, Pandora streaming in the background, email flowing in the background, weather updating me all the time.:D

iPhone, one app at a time..................:(

True...but it's a lot harder for Apple to sell 2million units and then 20million...while Android sells 100,000 then 1million. Although the percentage increase is identical, there is a limit to the # of humans out there buying phones. I agree with you, but the reality is that any cool device that has been building momentum before launch (Android) is going to sell lot hotcakes at first. I'm sure the iPad will be similar where it sells x units in Q2, then 2-3x in Q3 (so long as there are not major problems with the device)...but it's the longer haul on all products that really counts if you intend on owning a large percentage of the market.

My opinion is that Blackberry will hold #2 for a few more quarters...unless Apple really aims the iPhone at business users (or opens it up to multiple carriers like the BB) and thus leapfrogs BB. But I think BB isn't sitting around...I bet they will release some killer new BB edition this year that mimicks some of the behavior of the iPhone and Android (larger screens or touch). The BB clearly aim at the business market (MS Exchange integration, Calendaring, MS Office stuff and that's really it) while the iPhone clearly aims at consumers (surfing net, games, music player, video recorder)...so it's not a perfect comparison.

In mid 2011 I think it's going to be BB, iPhone, and Android all in a dead heat at like ~25% marketshare each. I can't see the MS platform ever getting above #4.

-Eric

Blackberry cannot even make a decent browser. There is NO way they could overtake Android. :confused:

Android ROCKS!!!:cool:
 
LOL. Very predictable comment from you!

However, reality is reality, and Nokia's business is to sell as many phones as possible, and they do this very well - hence they are #1.

More people *choose* to buy Nokia's products than Apple. Simple as that.

Filling the market with superfluity and then turning around to claim huge share is nothing special.
 
These are decent number all around, but if I were Apple, I would be paying some attention to Android's growth. I think the real key for Apple is going to be a combination of OS 4.0 and the capabilities of the new iPhone released (I assume) this summer. If neither bring many new features, I would expect the iPhone's market share to continue to stagnate or decline slightly. On the other hand, if they (as I hope) bring important new features, I think that the iPhone will be able to again increase its market share significantly.

The iPhone redefined the market when it initially came out, and again when it introduced the app store, with the effect that most existing smartphones were made obsolete overnight. This meant that people who wanted what the iPhone could deliver really only had one option - to buy an iPhone. But now people who want what the iPhone can deliver (roughly) have other options that seem to at least come pretty close to the mark...and there are some people who prefer the Android, apparently.

And while the iPhone does have outstanding revenue numbers right now, that is largely a function of the fact that the iPhone is (or was) much better than the competition. If the iPhone became merely average, I would expect its revenue numbers to likewise become average. So market share does matter, if only as a gauge of popularity.
 
The article goes demonstrates that Apple was the No. 3 smartphone vendor in 2009.

The iPhone has been the #1 smartphone in the world for a while now: the iPhone sells more units than any other single model of smartphone in the world.
 
In mid 2011 I think it's going to be BB, iPhone, and Android all in a dead heat at like ~25% marketshare each. I can't see the MS platform ever getting above #4.


Android from 4% to 25% in 1.5 years? And some people call Apple fanboys delusional... They might be more around 10% if they are lucky. 25% each for RIM and iPhone seem far more likely though.
 
The article goes demonstrates that Apple was the No. 3 smartphone vendor in 2009.

The iPhone has been the #1 smartphone in the world for a while now: the iPhone sells more units than any other single model of smartphone in the world.

I love the ways you try to make Apple #1!

Apple - #3 as per story.
 
Blackberry cannot even make a decent browser. There is NO way they could overtake Android. :confused:

Android ROCKS!!!:cool:

In case you missed it, RIM does not need to overtake Android, they are far ahead AND they still have a substantial growth despite their already big market share. Not that many people care about a super-great browser in the business environment of the Blackberries.
 
I love the ways you try to make Apple #1!

Apple - #3 as per story.

Apple only sells the one model (more, if you count differing amounts of RAM as different models). Nokia sells around a dozen different smartphones, none of which support sales approaching that of the iPhone. Grouped together, their numbers exceed that of the iPhone. The same goes for RIM. Even if you group all the touchscreen smartphones by vendor, Apple is No. 1 in the world.
 
In case you missed it, RIM does not need to overtake Android, they are far ahead AND they still have a substantial growth despite their already big market share. Not that many people care about a super-great browser in the business environment of the Blackberries.

He must have missed the part where BlackBerry are getting a Webkit based browser too.

Looks great for BlackBerry owners IMO. :cool:
 
Apple only sells the one model (more, if you count differing amounts of RAM as different models). Nokia sells around a dozen different smartphones, none of which support sales approaching that of the iPhone. Grouped together, their numbers exceed that of the iPhone. The same goes for RIM. Even if you group all the touchscreen smartphones by vendor, Apple is No. 1 in the world.

Nokia understand that one device does not fit all, unlike Apple who only have the one phone.

One model or 10 models, Nokia ( and RIM for that matter, with multiple devices ) still sell more smartphones than Apple.

#1 Nokia
#3 Apple.

Why does it bother you that Nokia sell more phones than Apple? Does it bother you that other PC manufacturers out sell Apple PCs?


Filling the market with superfluity and then turning around to claim huge share is nothing special.

Nokia's business model is to sell as many phones as possible. Don't you understand this? Nokia phones are popular because people buy them - and people buy them because consumers like Nokia products.
 
Nokia understand that one device does not fit all, unlike Apple who only have the one phone.

One model or 10 models, Nokia still sell more smartphones than Apple.

#1 Nokia
#3 Apple.

Why does it bother you that Nokia sell more phones than Apple? Does it bother you that other PC manufacturers out sell Apple PCs?

It doesn't bother me, aside from the general proliferation of tastelessness in tech, but that's expected.

Just a fun fact I threw out there. There is no single model of smartphone that sells more than the iPhone. And Apple's one-size-fits-all approach is proving extremely successful. It's actually come to be regarded as the *ideal* when it comes to handhelds. MS is trying to implement elements of the same business model with Windows Phone 7.

Nokia's business model is ill-suited to achieving the kind of appeal that Apple products have. Nokia sells a lot of cheap crap. That's always been attractive, but for entirely different reasons.
 
Apple only sells the one model (more, if you count differing amounts of RAM as different models). Nokia sells around a dozen different smartphones, none of which support sales approaching that of the iPhone. Grouped together, their numbers exceed that of the iPhone. The same goes for RIM. Even if you group all the touchscreen smartphones by vendor, Apple is No. 1 in the world.

If I had 1 popular car, loads of that car would sell.
If I had 15 popular cars, and all 15 models sell well, that doesn't make the individual cars any worse than the single one on offer above.

I'm loving the "If we exclude this segment of the market/exclude this company because they produce more than one handset/exclude this feature on phones APPLE IS TEH NUMBER ONES!!!!!111.

Are you a politician? You seem quite masterful at spin. :cool:
 
If I had 1 popular car, loads of that car would sell.
If I had 15 popular cars, and all 15 models sell well, that doesn't make the individual cars any worse than the single one on offer above.

I'm loving the "If we exclude this segment of the market/exclude this company because they produce more than one handset/exclude this feature on phones APPLE IS TEH NUMBER ONES!!!!!111.

Are you a politician? You seem quite masterful at spin. :cool:

It's just fact. There is no single smartphone model that is more popular than the iPhone. That's saying quite a bit.

Which leads one to believe that these other players are simply unable to produce something on the level of the iPhone. Now THAT is really saying something.
 
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